Dear Joyce Adding to roys comments, Karen could have been a member of one of the many armed forces stationed in England during the war and the name Reilly also suggest she could be from Ireland and posted in England. Ray >-- Original Message -- >From: "joyce.riddick" <joyce.riddick@btinternet.com> >To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> >Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 15:40:16 +0100 >Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] Karen Reilly-Foster >Reply-To: eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com > > >Sorry I will try to remember to post the message under a new heading. > >I have tried looking for her name under Riley, Reilly, Foster and Reilley. > >Also Reilly-Foster. The family are known for changing their names - not >a >very helpful situation for Family Researchers. > >Will try looking again. Maybe she was born earlier than she said on her > >Marriage Certificate - ladies do that. > >Thanks again for the advice sorry if I caused any inconvenience. > >joyce >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> >To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 3:33 PM >Subject: [YORKSHIRE] Karen Reilly-Foster > > >> From: "joyce.riddick" <joyce.riddick@btinternet.com> >> >>> I have just joined the group. Most of my ancestors are from >>> Lancashire but I have now started on a new member of the family - by >>> marriage and I am looking for the birth certificate of Karen >>> Reilly-Foster. Her marriage certificate in 1942 states she was 28 >>> years old in 1942 and the marriage took place in York. I cannot find >>> her birth certificate. Has anyone any suggestions please as to where >>> I can look. Have tried findmypast and the Yorkshire BMD. Help >>> required >>> >>> joyce Stubbs >>> North Wales >> >> Welcome to the list but may I respectfully be permitted to offer a short >> lesson in how to post a query? >> >> 1) it is unnecessarily complicating things to post your query by replying > >> to >> another topic altogether which has absolutely nothing to do with yours! >> Methodist churches in Leeds had no relevance whatsoever to your >> question. You should give the post an entirely new header, which is what >> I have done. >> >> 2) Always give as much information as possible when asking for help. >> For instance, is Reilly-Foster the name she married into or her maiden >> name? When checking double-barrelled surnames in indexes you should >> always check very carefully in BOTH names. There is a possibility that >> the first part of the name was recorded as a middle name. Did you do >> this? >> >> 3) Have you considered the possibility she may not have been born in >> England and Wales? >> >> -- >> Roy Stockdill >> Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies >> Guild of One-Name Studies website: www.one-name.org >> Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: >> www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html >> >> "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, >> and that is not being talked about." >> OSCAR WILDE >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >of the message

Hi Does anyone have Sarah in their tree? her father was Timothy CALVERT Sarah married Henry WHEATER I would love to know her mothers name Any help appreciated Chris

Hi to all Can anyone who has access to findmypast.com please help with a migration image, if so could you please mail me off list for details. Willing to help anyone with any South African research in return, particuarlly with Natal records. Kind Regards Bryan Dix Durban,Natal, South Africa

joyce.riddick wrote: > Hi > > She married Ronald Shea in 1956 so she would be Karen Shea. I still haven't > found that either. > > I have looked in Findmypast but not had any luck. I can only assume that > her real name wasn't Karen. It was: Based on what Roy's told you already, her marriage to Ronald SHEA was her second marriage. Karen R HARRISON married Ronald M SHEA Dec qtr of 1956 registration district of Heywood. Ref 10c 600 One thing you can never do in genealogy is assume anything. >>When and where and in what name did Karen die? I couldn't find it post >>1984 at findmypast. I know she married an Eric Harrison at York but was >>she married again? Only, the death indexes should give her actual birth >>date. >> >>-- >>Roy Stockdill

From: "joyce.riddick" <joyce.riddick@btinternet.com> > She married Ronald Shea in 1956 so she would be Karen Shea. I still > haven't found that either. > > I have looked in Findmypast but not had any luck. I can only assume > that her real name wasn't Karen. The family do have a habit of > altering their names. > > Thank you for everything will let you know how I get on.> According to the GRO Marriage Indexes at findmypast. KAREN R HARRISON married RONALD M SHEA in the Dec quarter of 1956 at Heywood, vol 10c page 600. So I rather think her name WAS Karen and the R undoubtedly stood for Reilly. Do you mean you haven't found her death? If you haven't found her birth, I think the most likely explanation is that for some reason she was born outside of England and Wales. -- Roy Stockdill Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies Guild of One-Name Studies website: www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hi She married Ronald Shea in 1956 so she would be Karen Shea. I still haven't found that either. I have looked in Findmypast but not had any luck. I can only assume that her real name wasn't Karen. The family do have a habit of altering their names. Thank you for everything will let you know how I get on. Thanks for everything. Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] Karen Reilly-Foster > From: "joyce.riddick" <joyce.riddick@btinternet.com> > >> Hi Roy >> >> That seems to be him - the right area for where she died Her father >> was a Motor Mechanic and he was James Reilly-Foster. Looks like you >> have found him. I found a James Riley married to Lily Foster in 1915. >> Thank you I will look further into that. I will let you know how I >> get on. >> >> Many thanks> > > The James R Foster at Stretford in the 1901 census was an articled law > clerk - not quite the same as a motor mechanic. However, it seems a > strong coincidence that I also found the potential marriage of Thomas > Foster and Emma Reilly at Barton-upon-Irwell in 1882 - they were very > likely James's parents. Possibly it was James who assumed the double- > barrelled name and not his daughter. > > When and where and in what name did Karen die? I couldn't find it post > 1984 at findmypast. I know she married an Eric Harrison at York but was > she married again? Only, the death indexes should give her actual birth > date. > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies > Guild of One-Name Studies website: www.one-name.org > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: > www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From: "joyce.riddick" <joyce.riddick@btinternet.com> > Hi Roy > > I also found the family on the 1901 census and tried to find Thomas > married to Emma and presumed it was Reilly. You say you found it on > Free BMD. I will look again. That is surely the family. > > Thanks again I have spent ages looking for one Reilly Foster. Thanks > again. I gave you the precise reference for the marriage, so there shouldn't be a problem. I've now looked at the 1891 census at findmypast and I would say beyond doubt it is them. They were living at Urmston Lane, Stretford and the family comprised..... Thomas FOSTER, head, 30, salesman Emma FOSTER, wife, 30 James R FOSTER, son, 9 George S FOSTER, son, 7 Hannah W FOSTER, dau, 3 All were born at Stretford I would say that either Karen or her father, James, were responsible for creating the double-barrelled name! As I said before, lots of people did it, usually out of nothing more than a bit of snobbery! -- Roy Stockdill Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies Guild of One-Name Studies website: www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hi Roy I also found the family on the 1901 census and tried to find Thomas married to Emma and presumed it was Reilly. You say you found it on Free BMD. I will look again. That is surely the family. Thanks again I have spent ages looking for one Reilly Foster. Thanks again. Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] Karen Reilly-Foster > From: "joyce.riddick" <joyce.riddick@btinternet.com> > >> I have tried looking for her name under Riley, Reilly, Foster and >> Reilley. Also Reilly-Foster. The family are known for changing their >> names - not a very helpful situation for Family Researchers. >> >> Will try looking again. Maybe she was born earlier than she said on >> her Marriage Certificate - ladies do that.> > > Further to my message about the birth entry for James Reilly Foster at > Barton-upon-Irwell, the 1901 census shows three James R Fosters of the > right age but only one in Lancashire - a James R Foster, articled law > clerk, at Stretford, father Thomas Foster, mother Emma, both aged 40. > > I then find that FreeBMD has the possible marriage ("possible" because, > of course, there are two other names on the page) of Thomas FOSTER > and Emma REILLY in the March quarter of 1882 at Barton-upon-Irwell, > vol 8c page 672. Stretford is in the Barton-U-I registration district. > > Could I suggest this may be the family you seek? If Karen was given her > mother's surname as a middle name and then decided to double-barrel it > - BINGO. But I only say "may" and my speculation will be worthless if you > tell us her father wasn't James! > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies > Guild of One-Name Studies website: www.one-name.org > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: > www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From: "joyce.riddick" <joyce.riddick@btinternet.com> > Hi Roy > > That seems to be him - the right area for where she died Her father > was a Motor Mechanic and he was James Reilly-Foster. Looks like you > have found him. I found a James Riley married to Lily Foster in 1915. > Thank you I will look further into that. I will let you know how I > get on. > > Many thanks> The James R Foster at Stretford in the 1901 census was an articled law clerk - not quite the same as a motor mechanic. However, it seems a strong coincidence that I also found the potential marriage of Thomas Foster and Emma Reilly at Barton-upon-Irwell in 1882 - they were very likely James's parents. Possibly it was James who assumed the double- barrelled name and not his daughter. When and where and in what name did Karen die? I couldn't find it post 1984 at findmypast. I know she married an Eric Harrison at York but was she married again? Only, the death indexes should give her actual birth date. -- Roy Stockdill Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies Guild of One-Name Studies website: www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hi Roy That seems to be him - the right area for where she died Her father was a Motor Mechanic and he was James Reilly-Foster. Looks like you have found him. I found a James Riley married to Lily Foster in 1915. Thank you I will look further into that. I will let you know how I get on. Many thanks Joyce----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] Karen Reilly-Foster > From: "joyce.riddick" <joyce.riddick@btinternet.com> > >> I have tried looking for her name under Riley, Reilly, Foster and >> Reilley. Also Reilly-Foster. The family are known for changing their >> names - not a very helpful situation for Family Researchers. >> >> Will try looking again. Maybe she was born earlier than she said on >> her Marriage Certificate - ladies do that. >> >> Thanks again for the advice sorry if I caused any inconvenience.> > > FreeBMD appears to have only one possible entry in "All Types" and "All > Districts", which is the birth of a JAMES REILLY FOSTER (Reilly being a > middle name and not hyphenated) at Barton-upon-Irwell in the June > quarter of 1882, vol 8c page 683. He would seem to have been born > about the right time to have possibly been her father, but there is no > marriage for him at FreeBMD (not in that name, anyway, though there > are umpteen marriages for James Fosters). Barton-upon-Irwell is a > Manchester registration district, BTW. What is the father's name on her > marriage certificate and what was his occupation? This normally gives a > clue to the family's social standing. > > If he was her father, perhaps she decided to make her name double- > barrelled when she met her husband-to-be. People did that, usually out of > snobbery or because they liked the sound of a double-barrelled surname! > In my experience, the only genuine double-barrelled surnames have > usually arisen as a result of a clause in a will to inherit a title or > property > or where two wealthy families linked by marriage have decided to use > both names. Double-barrelled surnames are on the whole a 20th century > middle class phenomenon! > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies > Guild of One-Name Studies website: www.one-name.org > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: > www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From: "joyce.riddick" <joyce.riddick@btinternet.com> > I have tried looking for her name under Riley, Reilly, Foster and > Reilley. Also Reilly-Foster. The family are known for changing their > names - not a very helpful situation for Family Researchers. > > Will try looking again. Maybe she was born earlier than she said on > her Marriage Certificate - ladies do that.> Further to my message about the birth entry for James Reilly Foster at Barton-upon-Irwell, the 1901 census shows three James R Fosters of the right age but only one in Lancashire - a James R Foster, articled law clerk, at Stretford, father Thomas Foster, mother Emma, both aged 40. I then find that FreeBMD has the possible marriage ("possible" because, of course, there are two other names on the page) of Thomas FOSTER and Emma REILLY in the March quarter of 1882 at Barton-upon-Irwell, vol 8c page 672. Stretford is in the Barton-U-I registration district. Could I suggest this may be the family you seek? If Karen was given her mother's surname as a middle name and then decided to double-barrel it - BINGO. But I only say "may" and my speculation will be worthless if you tell us her father wasn't James! -- Roy Stockdill Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies Guild of One-Name Studies website: www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

From: "joyce.riddick" <joyce.riddick@btinternet.com> > I have tried looking for her name under Riley, Reilly, Foster and > Reilley. Also Reilly-Foster. The family are known for changing their > names - not a very helpful situation for Family Researchers. > > Will try looking again. Maybe she was born earlier than she said on > her Marriage Certificate - ladies do that. > > Thanks again for the advice sorry if I caused any inconvenience.> FreeBMD appears to have only one possible entry in "All Types" and "All Districts", which is the birth of a JAMES REILLY FOSTER (Reilly being a middle name and not hyphenated) at Barton-upon-Irwell in the June quarter of 1882, vol 8c page 683. He would seem to have been born about the right time to have possibly been her father, but there is no marriage for him at FreeBMD (not in that name, anyway, though there are umpteen marriages for James Fosters). Barton-upon-Irwell is a Manchester registration district, BTW. What is the father's name on her marriage certificate and what was his occupation? This normally gives a clue to the family's social standing. If he was her father, perhaps she decided to make her name double- barrelled when she met her husband-to-be. People did that, usually out of snobbery or because they liked the sound of a double-barrelled surname! In my experience, the only genuine double-barrelled surnames have usually arisen as a result of a clause in a will to inherit a title or property or where two wealthy families linked by marriage have decided to use both names. Double-barrelled surnames are on the whole a 20th century middle class phenomenon! -- Roy Stockdill Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies Guild of One-Name Studies website: www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

JOHN NICHOLSON was christened at Wheldrake Yorkshire in April 1775 Father THOMAS NICHOLSON, Mother ELIZABETH HARRISON. He married ELIZABETH COOK on 01 Aug 1803 at Wheldrake, Yorkshire, England. Their children including my ancestor ELEANOR, were born in HULL. According to the HULL census JOHN NICHOLSON was a publican/licensed vitualler. In 1834 he was at the Grapes, Lower Union Street, Hull. The IGI shows that ELIZABETH COOK was baptised at Holy Trinity GOODRAMGATE, YORK in 1776 but there are no other details. I would appreciate if anyone on the list has any further information regarding her parents. I will attempt to apply for a copy of the parish register but really need more details. I have already received loads of help from this list and recently visited beautiful YORKSHIRE including YORK. Marj Howland - BOOMERANG BEACH, NSW AUSTRALIA

Sorry I will try to remember to post the message under a new heading. I have tried looking for her name under Riley, Reilly, Foster and Reilley. Also Reilly-Foster. The family are known for changing their names - not a very helpful situation for Family Researchers. Will try looking again. Maybe she was born earlier than she said on her Marriage Certificate - ladies do that. Thanks again for the advice sorry if I caused any inconvenience. joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 3:33 PM Subject: [YORKSHIRE] Karen Reilly-Foster > From: "joyce.riddick" <joyce.riddick@btinternet.com> > >> I have just joined the group. Most of my ancestors are from >> Lancashire but I have now started on a new member of the family - by >> marriage and I am looking for the birth certificate of Karen >> Reilly-Foster. Her marriage certificate in 1942 states she was 28 >> years old in 1942 and the marriage took place in York. I cannot find >> her birth certificate. Has anyone any suggestions please as to where >> I can look. Have tried findmypast and the Yorkshire BMD. Help >> required >> >> joyce Stubbs >> North Wales > > Welcome to the list but may I respectfully be permitted to offer a short > lesson in how to post a query? > > 1) it is unnecessarily complicating things to post your query by replying > to > another topic altogether which has absolutely nothing to do with yours! > Methodist churches in Leeds had no relevance whatsoever to your > question. You should give the post an entirely new header, which is what > I have done. > > 2) Always give as much information as possible when asking for help. > For instance, is Reilly-Foster the name she married into or her maiden > name? When checking double-barrelled surnames in indexes you should > always check very carefully in BOTH names. There is a possibility that > the first part of the name was recorded as a middle name. Did you do > this? > > 3) Have you considered the possibility she may not have been born in > England and Wales? > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies > Guild of One-Name Studies website: www.one-name.org > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: > www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Listers, Is there anyone out there who has access to parish reg. for Hemingbrough, please? I have found on the IGI a marriage between Mary Maskill and William Sims, which took place on 23 December 1826 at Hemingbrough. I am most interested in any other information on the marriage record, most importantly to confirm the name of Mary's father. Many thanks for your time. June Wray in Adelaide

From: "joyce.riddick" <joyce.riddick@btinternet.com> > I have just joined the group. Most of my ancestors are from > Lancashire but I have now started on a new member of the family - by > marriage and I am looking for the birth certificate of Karen > Reilly-Foster. Her marriage certificate in 1942 states she was 28 > years old in 1942 and the marriage took place in York. I cannot find > her birth certificate. Has anyone any suggestions please as to where > I can look. Have tried findmypast and the Yorkshire BMD. Help > required > > joyce Stubbs > North Wales Welcome to the list but may I respectfully be permitted to offer a short lesson in how to post a query? 1) it is unnecessarily complicating things to post your query by replying to another topic altogether which has absolutely nothing to do with yours! Methodist churches in Leeds had no relevance whatsoever to your question. You should give the post an entirely new header, which is what I have done. 2) Always give as much information as possible when asking for help. For instance, is Reilly-Foster the name she married into or her maiden name? When checking double-barrelled surnames in indexes you should always check very carefully in BOTH names. There is a possibility that the first part of the name was recorded as a middle name. Did you do this? 3) Have you considered the possibility she may not have been born in England and Wales? -- Roy Stockdill Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies Guild of One-Name Studies website: www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hi everybody I have just joined the group. Most of my ancestors are from Lancashire but I have now started on a new member of the family - by marriage and I am looking for the birth certificate of Karen Reilly-Foster. Her marriage certificate in 1942 states she was 28 years old in 1942 and the marriage took place in York. I cannot find her birth certificate. Has anyone any suggestions please as to where I can look. Have tried findmypast and the Yorkshire BMD. Help required joyce Stubbs North Wales ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-YKS-LEEDS-L-request@rootsweb.com>; "Eng-Yorks" <ENG-YORKSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com>; "West Riding" <WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] Methodist churches in Leeds > From: Paul Ellis <paulellis110@tiscali.co.uk> > >> my 4x great grandparents, Richard and Anne ELLIS were >> >> Methodists in Leeds and were married at Long Marston in Yorkshire 14 >> April 1794. My 3x great grandfather William Bernard ( Barnard ) ELLIS, >> according to the IGI was baptised "05 MAR 1795 Methodist, Leeds, >> Yorkshire, England" Is there any way of identifying the church in >> question as the batch number 7205427 covers several different >> churches in the Leeds area. Any help would be appreciated. >> >> Regards Paul in Bulwell Nottingham> > > The National Index of Parish Registers for the West Riding lists SIXTY- > SEVEN Wesleyan Methodist Churches, TWENTY-EIGHT Primitive > Methodist churches, NINE Methodist New Connexion, TWENTY United > Methodist Free, FOUR United Methodist and TWENTY-ONE others > listed just as "Methodist" - a grand total of 149 Methodist churches in > Leeds! > > However, fortunately, only a small number of these actually existed in > 1795, as follows..... > > Wesleyan, Woodside, founded by 1768, later Meanwoodside, but > registers from 1815 only. > > Wesleyan, Leeds, East Circuit, registers 1785-1839, registers at West > Yorkshire Archive Service, Sheepscar, Leeds. > > Wesleyan, Bramley, erected 1785 but registers only from 1801 at The > National Archives, Kew. > > Wesleyan, Holbeck, f. by 1785, registers from 1785 at TNA. > > Wesleyan, The Old Chapel, St Peter's St, f. by 1787, registers from 1787 > at TNA. > > Wesleyan, Wesley Chapel, f. by 1793, registers from 1793 at TNA. > > New Connexion, Woodhouse Lane, christenings from 1785 at WYAS/L. > > New Connexion, Ebenezer Chapel, f. by 1789, registers from 1789 at > TNA. > > And that would seem to be it. > > However, I think I should point out, as I expect you already know, that > the > batch no. you have indicates an LDS Church private submission, which > can be dodgy! > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies > Guild of One-Name Studies website: www.one-name.org > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: > www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From: Paul Ellis <paulellis110@tiscali.co.uk> > my 4x great grandparents, Richard and Anne ELLIS were > > Methodists in Leeds and were married at Long Marston in Yorkshire 14 > April 1794. My 3x great grandfather William Bernard ( Barnard ) ELLIS, > according to the IGI was baptised "05 MAR 1795 Methodist, Leeds, > Yorkshire, England" Is there any way of identifying the church in > question as the batch number 7205427 covers several different > churches in the Leeds area. Any help would be appreciated. > > Regards Paul in Bulwell Nottingham> The National Index of Parish Registers for the West Riding lists SIXTY- SEVEN Wesleyan Methodist Churches, TWENTY-EIGHT Primitive Methodist churches, NINE Methodist New Connexion, TWENTY United Methodist Free, FOUR United Methodist and TWENTY-ONE others listed just as "Methodist" - a grand total of 149 Methodist churches in Leeds! However, fortunately, only a small number of these actually existed in 1795, as follows..... Wesleyan, Woodside, founded by 1768, later Meanwoodside, but registers from 1815 only. Wesleyan, Leeds, East Circuit, registers 1785-1839, registers at West Yorkshire Archive Service, Sheepscar, Leeds. Wesleyan, Bramley, erected 1785 but registers only from 1801 at The National Archives, Kew. Wesleyan, Holbeck, f. by 1785, registers from 1785 at TNA. Wesleyan, The Old Chapel, St Peter's St, f. by 1787, registers from 1787 at TNA. Wesleyan, Wesley Chapel, f. by 1793, registers from 1793 at TNA. New Connexion, Woodhouse Lane, christenings from 1785 at WYAS/L. New Connexion, Ebenezer Chapel, f. by 1789, registers from 1789 at TNA. And that would seem to be it. However, I think I should point out, as I expect you already know, that the batch no. you have indicates an LDS Church private submission, which can be dodgy! -- Roy Stockdill Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies Guild of One-Name Studies website: www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hi Listers, my 4x great grandparents, Richard and Anne ELLIS were Methodists in Leeds and were married at Long Marston in Yorkshire 14 April 1794. My 3x great grandfather William Bernard ( Barnard ) ELLIS, according to the IGI was baptised "05 MAR 1795 Methodist, Leeds, Yorkshire, England" Is there any way of identifying the church in question as the batch number 7205427 covers several different churches in the Leeds area. Any help would be appreciated. Regards Paul in Bulwell Nottingham

From: June Wray <junew@adam.com.au> > Is there anyone out there who has access to parish reg. for > Hemingbrough, please? I have found on the IGI a marriage between Mary > Maskill and William Sims, which took place on 23 December 1826 at > Hemingbrough. I am most interested in any other information on the > marriage record, most importantly to confirm the name of Mary's > father. Many thanks for your time.> Marriage entries in pre-1837 parish registers rarely give parents' names, not even the father's. The exception might be in the case of some prominent local worthy, aristocrat, lord of the manor, squire, wealthy landowner, etc, in which the incumbent felt he ought to ingratiate himself with the family by giving fuller details. However, these are few and far between. Normally, the likelihood of your finding her father's name in the register entry is about 1000/1 against, probably more. However, if you look at the IGI at FamilySearch you will see an entry for Mary MASKALL, born 25 March 1809, christened 2 April, at Hemingborough, daughter of William Maskall and Hannah. The batch no. is C109222 and the source the bishop's transcripts (copies of the registers) for Hemmingborough. This is an authentic extracted emntry from the official records and not a Mormon private submission, which are unreliable. If this was her it would make her 17 at the time of the marriage, in which case she was under age and would have needed parental permission. There is just a remote chance the father's name might have been mentioned but it's more likely just to say "with permission of parents" or something similar. The fact that the IGI gives the actual date of birth as well as the baptismal date suggests that the registers may have been Dade ones - and if you don't know what those are, may I recommend you to read my Newbies' Guide (URL below), which has a section on Dade Registers and also on how to understand the IGI. -- Roy Stockdill Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies Guild of One-Name Studies website: www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE