hello - wondering if anybody has ANY connection to the following family- In Ancestry.com - 1861 census - living on Pottergate, Richmond - Registration district: Richmond Sub-registration district: Richmond ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 115 Household Members: Name Age George Hardy 15 John Waites 32 Mary J Waites 5 Sarah Waites 34 John Waites Junr. abt 1829 Richmond, Yorkshire, England Head Richmond Yorkshire Stone Mason Mary J Waites abt 1856 Durham, England Daughter Richmond Yorkshire Sarah Waites abt 1827 York, Yorkshire, England Wife Richmond Yorkshire George Hardy abt 1846 Middleton Tyas, Yorkshire, England Lodger Richmond Yorkshire Stone Mason regards Jo and Keith in Nottingham

hello - still chasing ANY connection to the following family - In Ancestry.com - 1861 census - living in the village of Middleton Tyas, Yorkshire - Registration district: Richmond Sub-registration district: Richmond ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Household schedule number: 25 Household Members: Name Age Fanny Hardy 7 Mary Hardy 40 William Hardy 46 William Hardy 10 Fanny Hardy 1854 Middleton Tyas, Yorkshire, England Daughter Middleton Tyas Yorkshire Mary Hardy abt 1821 Coniscliffe, Durham, England Wife Middleton Tyas Yorkshire William Hardy abt 1815 Middleton Tyas, Yorkshire, England Head Middleton Tyas Yorkshire Mason William Hardy abt 1851 Middleton Tyas, Yorkshire, England Son Middleton Tyas Yorkshire regards Jo and Keith HARDY in Nottingham

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Thanks Nuala No wonder immigrants get away with anything in this country. I don't think they would allow it in Australia. In North Wales last year I had to produce my passport, Marriage licenses and death certificates of my deceased husbands. Does any of that make sense. Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nuala Cockburn" <nualacockburn@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 8:10 AM Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] Karen Reilly Foster > Joyce, > > As far as I know it was only during WW2 that you had to make a name > change by deedpoll with notice given in The London Gazette. Apart from > that > you could and can call yourself anything you like. > > Nuala > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "joyce.riddick" <joyce.riddick@btinternet.com> > To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 9:20 PM > Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] Karen Reilly Foster > > >> Hi Roy >> >> I wonder would her Marriage certificate have been valid knowing she gave >> a >> false name? Interesting thought. >> >> Joyce Stubbs > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Joyce, As far as I know it was only during WW2 that you had to make a name change by deedpoll with notice given in The London Gazette. Apart from that you could and can call yourself anything you like. Nuala ----- Original Message ----- From: "joyce.riddick" <joyce.riddick@btinternet.com> To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] Karen Reilly Foster > Hi Roy > > I wonder would her Marriage certificate have been valid knowing she gave a > false name? Interesting thought. > > Joyce Stubbs

Hi Roy I wonder would her Marriage certificate have been valid knowing she gave a false name? Interesting thought. Joyce Stubbs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] Karen Reilly Foster > From: "joyce.riddick" <joyce.riddick@btinternet.com> > >> Roy >> >> I think I have solved Karen Reilly-Foster with your help. She was >> Kathleen Rose Riley born in 1913 to Afred J.Riley and Rose Pearson. >> They were married in 1911. I have found two of her sons born to >> Hodgson and their mother was given as Riley. We know of these boys and >> we knew their names so that made finding them easier. I will confirm >> this when I receive the certificates. It helped when you found the >> death of Kathleen Rose Shea and her birthday was correct. >> >> Thanks for your help >> >> Joyce Stubbs > > So where did she get Karen Reilly-Foster from on her marriage > certificate? Presumably you don't now think she was any relation to > James Reilly-Foster at all? Curious! > > Still, I'm glad you've solved it. > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies > Guild of One-Name Studies website: www.one-name.org > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: > www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From: "joyce.riddick" <joyce.riddick@btinternet.com> > Roy > > I think I have solved Karen Reilly-Foster with your help. She was > Kathleen Rose Riley born in 1913 to Afred J.Riley and Rose Pearson. > They were married in 1911. I have found two of her sons born to > Hodgson and their mother was given as Riley. We know of these boys and > we knew their names so that made finding them easier. I will confirm > this when I receive the certificates. It helped when you found the > death of Kathleen Rose Shea and her birthday was correct. > > Thanks for your help > > Joyce Stubbs So where did she get Karen Reilly-Foster from on her marriage certificate? Presumably you don't now think she was any relation to James Reilly-Foster at all? Curious! Still, I'm glad you've solved it. -- Roy Stockdill Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies Guild of One-Name Studies website: www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Jes6700 Surnames: Jes6700@aol.com Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/6599.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am related to your Ada Snover relatives. Sure would love to hear from you. Joan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Roy I think I have solved Karen Reilly-Foster with your help. She was Kathleen Rose Riley born in 1913 to Afred J.Riley and Rose Pearson. They were married in 1911. I have found two of her sons born to Hodgson and their mother was given as Riley. We know of these boys and we knew their names so that made finding them easier. I will confirm this when I receive the certificates. It helped when you found the death of Kathleen Rose Shea and her birthday was correct. Thanks for your help Joyce Stubbs

I have found in some paperwork a pencil drawing of a George Utley aged about 6years 10mths and a Kathleen Winfred (i think his sister) aged 4 years. Willing to copy and share with anyone who this may relate to. Not sure where they are from but suspect area to be around York, Tadcaster, Wetherby. Pauline Allen

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Yes I found your response thanks very much Roy. I originally sent my query to both lists and the Craven one seems to process the email much more slowly so it looks as if my query was sent after your reply on the Yorks list, but in fact my two recent emails were both sent from me at much the same time!! Sorry for the confusion. I will look at the aerial map asap! Kind regards and many thanks for your help. Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: Roy Stockdill To: eng-yks-craven@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 5:34 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-YKS-CRAVEN] PLUMTREEBANKS From: "Robert & Elaine Wade" <wadesrus@fastmail.com.au> > Many thanks John. > > Your comment is the nearest we have come yet to finding Plumtree > anything so are you able to give us something which would pinpoint > these places on a map?? > > Maybe one of the on-line "how to get there" type links would do the > trick? > > Your help is much appreciated, > Robert Wade< Haven't you seen my messages on the West Riding or Yorkshire list? I have found it for you, even an aerial shot. Plum Tree Banks is about a mile and a half south-east of Addingham, midway between Addingham and Ilkley, off the Addingham Wharfedale Road and off a country lane called Cocking Lane. All that seems to exist now is a barn called Plumbtree Banks Lathe (lathe was an old name for a barn). Probably it was once a farm and the barn is all that exists. Go to multimap, enter Addingham and then zoom in on Cocking Lane where it has a junction with Lumb Gill Lane. Use the hybrid mapping. Plum Tree Banks Lathe is just to the south of that junction. I found it originally in a large-scale gazetteer I happen to have of Leeds and Bradford. I suspect your ancestors once lived there at a farm but the barn is all that now exists. Best wishes -- Roy Stockdill Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies Guild of One-Name Studies website: www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YKS-CRAVEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Michele, Many thanks for that suggestion. Great idea. I will try it! Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: michele To: eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] PLUMTREEBANKS It might be worth contacting the webmaster of the Addingham Village site to post a query in the 'can you help?' section. There's a comprehensive history of Addingham on the site which looks very interesting. http://www.addingham.info/ Good Luck, Michele ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert & Elaine Wade" <wadesrus@fastmail.com.au> To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] PLUMTREEBANKS > Thanks Geoff for your suggestion. > > I have contacted the person who runs the website of the family tree which comes up on Google but unfortunately the location of Plumtreebanks is as much of a mystery to them as it is to us! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi! Pauline, there is, at present, no MELL street, as far as I can see, but there is a MELROSE street, off Trafalgar Street West, which runs south from Dean Road. This not far from North Marine Road, as is the rest of scarborough(TIC). My second suggestion would be to post a message on www.scarborougheveningnews.co.uk as there are many family historians in the area. Good Hunting, Gordon moody. ======================================== Message Received: Aug 08 2007, 10:35 PM From: "pauline allen" To: eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: [YORKSHIRE] old maps link please Can anyone tell me if there is a web site that will give me where a street was in 1881 in Scarborough. I was born in Scarborough but this street name means nothing to me. I am looking for Mell Street Scarborough, I think from looking at the 1881 census that it may be near North Marine Road but not sure. Many thanks Pauline Allen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Gordon Moody, Scarborough, North Yorkshire.

Listers will probably have heard me before "rave" about what are known as Dade entries in Yorkshire parish registers. These are entries that give far more detail than is the norm and were named after the Rev William Dade, a far-sighted Yorkshire clergymen who perceived that one day even ordinary people might want to trace their ancestry. Thus he instituted a system of giving as much detail as possible in birth/baptismal entries, which lasted from around the mid 1770s to 1812 when a new system on printed forms came in which, ironically, gave less detail than under the Rev Dade's influence. Today I received from the North Yorkshire Record Office a photostat of an absolutely classic Dade entry, this from the registers of Topcliffe by Thirsk in 1778. For those of you who have never seen a Dade entry, it will be an education. Firstly, here is the entry as it appears on the IGI at www.familysearch.org... JOHN HARKER Birth: 07 SEP 1778 Christening: 11 OCT 1778 Topcliffe By Thirsk, Yorkshire, England: Father: BENJAMINE HARKER Mother: ANN DUNNING Source Information: Batch No.: C104762 Dates: 1769 - 1812 The usual basic information, in fact. It was the fact that both the actual birth and baptismal dates were given, also the mother's full name with maiden name, that made me suspect this might be a Dade entry, and such proved to be the case. Here is the full entry as it appears in the registers..... Column 1 - Infant's Christian and last name and seniority John Harker, 2nd son of Column 2 - Father's name, abode, profession and descent Benjamin Harker of Asenby, labourer, son of John Harker of Scuggdale, farmer Column 3 - Mother's name and descent and of Ann, daughter of James Dunning of Boultby, farmer, by Jane, daughter of William Lumley of Cold Kirby Column 4 - Born On Monday the 7th of September Column 5 - Baptized On Sunday the 11th of October Note that the entry even gives the days of the week for the birth and baptism. Moreover, the family tree shown in the mother's entry covers FOUR generations: John Harker, the infant being baptised; his mother Ann Dunning; grandparents James and Jane Dunning; and great- grandfather William Lumley. Oh that there had been more enlightened clerics like the Rev William Dade! And also a lesson to beginners that you should never just accept what the IGI says, but always go to the original records. -- Roy Stockdill Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies Guild of One-Name Studies website: www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hi Pauline Could it be Mill St ? http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&tab=wl&q= (in case the link does not work, try http://www.google.co.uk/ select maps, enter Mill St Scarborough) Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Can anyone tell me if there is a web site that will give me where a street > was in 1881 in Scarborough. > > I was born in Scarborough but this street name means nothing to me. I am > looking for Mell Street Scarborough, I think from looking at the 1881 > census that it may be near North Marine Road but not sure. > > Many thanks > Pauline Allen

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lroskell Surnames: Fishwick, Physick Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/1341.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, My great grandmother's side was the Fishwick/Physick family, who came from Wensley/Tatham and later moved to Lancashire. What dates are you talking about for Richard Fishwick? I am back to the 1500s on my family tree for this family. Please email me at louiseroskell@hotmail.com and anyone else who is interested in the Fishwick family who's reading this. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Can anyone tell me if there is a web site that will give me where a street was in 1881 in Scarborough. I was born in Scarborough but this street name means nothing to me. I am looking for Mell Street Scarborough, I think from looking at the 1881 census that it may be near North Marine Road but not sure. Many thanks Pauline Allen

Hi David (we heard you the first time <vbg>) I would usually recommend old-maps site as they have the O/S old series maps http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ However they recently "improved " it (to maximise profit and minimise free use) Its down for me at present but if you try at another time you should find some zoomable maps of the area you seek (albeit a tad awkward to use) Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Dear All, > > I have purchased a Cassini Historical Map Old Series (Map 105, York & > Selby) 1:50,000 it dates from 1858. It is fairly useful and has Burlands > House on Burlands Farm & Bur Field. However it's scale is rather small and > you can't quite make out the properties in either Upper or Nether > Poppleton. Does anyone have any suggestions of larger scale maps with more > details of the local farms. I have been to the Borthwick Institute to see > the TITHE map (1856 William Paver Upper & Nether Poppleton - ref: MAPS/68) > which is 10 feet to 1 mile - I think that is a little too big! However > somewhere between would be just fine. Many thanks. > > David Hawkin.