This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ovington1_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15353.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi again Freecen whilst being very useful is very much a work in progress, I don't know where you are but try your nearest library to see if they have Ancestry, many do, you can then find them in all census easily and print them off (or they might let you save the pages to a thumb drive) or you could take out a month subscription, you can do a massive amount in a month, they also do credits Or do you have an LDS FHS near enough to get to? NJO Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pete_lodge Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15353.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for the information, I did eventually find him in the 1881 census, married ~ but wasn't able to locate him on Freecen prior to that (perhaps been transcribed differently...??) Really appreciate your assistance Janice Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: york_lanc_FH Surnames: KNAPTON JENNINGS Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15354.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Janice I checked the family in 1881 and from the details there I have found the following for you (as you know the only way to be sure of fathers names is to buy their marriage cert) I have more census info if you should want it mail me yorkshire.123 at virgin.net Christine 1851 England Census about Thos Knapton Name: Thos Knapton Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Son Father's Name: Jonathan ----------born Thornton Coal Miner Mother's Name: Mary Ann ----------------born Lancashire Gender: Male Where born: Thornton, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Thornton County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Bradford Sub-registration district: Thornton Household schedule number: 30 Household Members: Name Age Jonathan Knapton 32 Mary Ann Knapton 27 James Knapton 10 Thos Knapton 9 Elizh Knapton 6 Sarah Knapton 4 Henry Knapton 1 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2311; Folio: 176; Page: 10; GSU roll: 87526-87528. 1851 England Census about Caroline Jennings Name: Caroline Jennings Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Whitaker Mother's Name: Anne Gender: Female Where born: Thornton, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Thornton Ecclesiastical parish: Denholme Gate County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Bradford Sub-registration district: Thornton ED, institution, or vessel: 1l Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 105 Household Members: Name Age Whitaker Jennings 30 Where born: Haworth, Yorkshire, England Coal Miner Anne Jennings 29 Where born: Apton, Lancashire, England Elizabeth Jennings 7 Joshua Jennings 5 Caroline Jennings 3 Robert Jennings 1 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2311; Folio: 217; Page: 28; GSU roll: 87526-87528. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

On 21 Aug 2009 at 11:10, [email protected] wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: JudyElkington70 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15 > 354.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Looking for further information on the family of Thomas KNAPTON and > Caroline JENNINGS, believe they married Dec Quarter 1868 at Bradford, > YK...hoping for their parents names > > Hi, > The best way to get the parents' names is by buying a marriage > certificate which will give you both fathers' names. You could then > look in the 1861 census for bradford to find the parents and the rest > of the family. > You know, Judy, it baffles me as to why some posters keep asking this blindingly silly question! Of course the obvious thing to do is get the marriage certificate for the father's names, then check out both families in the previous census. I am sorry to have to say it yet again - and at risk of incurring criticism - but it appears to me that there are those who simply are too lazy to do their own research and expect others to do it for them. Either that or they are unwilling to spend any money. However, genealogy, like all hobbies, DOES sometimes cost money and if it is to be done properly, then there is no choice! -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JudyElkington70 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15354.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for further information on the family of Thomas KNAPTON and Caroline JENNINGS, believe they married Dec Quarter 1868 at Bradford, YK...hoping for their parents names Hi, The best way to get the parents' names is by buying a marriage certificate which will give you both fathers' names. You could then look in the 1861 census for bradford to find the parents and the rest of the family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PeterWood50 Surnames: WARD, HIRST Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15353.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Janice It looks like you already know the GRO reference for the marriage but here it is again:- Absolom Ward Bradford, Yks 9b 117 JAS quarter 1861. When you send off for and receive the marriage certificate it should tell you the name and occupation of the father of each spouse. The certificate will cost you £7.00 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ovington1_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15353.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Janice With respect it does not look like you looked very far for him :-) He is shown clearly in every census except 1841 where he is transcribed on Ancestry as Abralom (correction has been entered) 1861 Name: Absolam Ward Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Clayton, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Clayton Ecclesiastical parish: Clayton County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Bradford Sub-registration district: Thornton ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 103 Household Members: Name Age John Ward 63 handloom worsted weaver born Halifax Mary Ward 56 born Clayton Oliver Ward 30 born Clayton Martha Ward 28 born Clayton Mary Ward 27 born Clayton Absolam Ward 24 born Clayton Edwin Ward 22 born Clayton RG9; Piece: 3338; Folio: 22; Page: 18; GSU roll: 543116. >From the IGI ABSALOM WARD Birth: 01 DEC 1835 Baptist, Clayton By Bradford, Yorkshire, England Father: JOHN WARD Family Mother: MARY RAWNSLEY C093331 1805 - 1837 0816612 (RG4 2993) Film 6910555 Film >From the 1911 census index WARD ABSALOM M 1837 74 North Bierley Yorkshire West Riding WARD ANN F 1841 70 North Bierley Yorkshire West Riding WARD E A F 1870 41 North Bierley Yorkshire West Riding WARD EDMUND M 1869 42 North Bierley Yorkshire West Riding WARD ERNEST M 1892 19 North Bierley Yorkshire West Riding WARD WILLIAM A M 1876 35 North Bierley Yorkshire West Riding WARD ANNIE F 1878 33 North Bierley Yorkshire West Riding WARD KATHLEEN F 1909 2 North Bierley Yorkshire West Riding WARD WILLIAM ANGUS M 1905 6 North Bierley Yorkshire West Riding NJO Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Tania_Dennis Surnames: Lilley, Pemberton Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15352.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi again Jan If you would like further information about Kate's family contact me on my email address: [email protected] Cheers Tania Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Tania_Dennis Surnames: Slaney, Lilly, Lilley, Pemberton, Smith Classification: biography Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15352.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Jan It appears that John PARKER married twice. 1881 Census Dwelling 8 Lower Bainbrigge St Census Place Derby St Werburgh, Derby, England Henry PEMBERTON Head Male age: 75 b: Norton, Nottingham, England Occ: Bricklayer Ann PEMBERTON Wife Female age: 73 b: Norton, Nottingham, England Kate LILLY Grandaur Female age: 20 b: Plesley, Derby, England Occ: Chevenner Thomas Hy. SMITH Grandson Male age: 12 b: Manchester Occ: Scholar Emma TUBBS Boarder Female age:29 b: Leicester, England Occ: Machinist (Sewing) 1891 Census Derby, Derbyshire John PARKER head b: abt: 1847 Crewe, Cheshire Kate PARKER wife b: abt: 1861 Derby, Derbyshire John PARKER son b: abt: 1875 Derby, Derbyshire James PARKER son b: abt: 1876 Derby, Derbyshire Rose A.H. PARKER daug b: abt: 1878 Derby, Derbyshire Thomas PARKER son b: abt: 1880 Derby, Derbyshire Frederick M. PARKER son b: abt: 1882 Derby, Derbyshire FreeBMD Kate LILLEY born: Qrt Sep 1860 District: Derby (in Derbyshire) Vol: 7b Pg: * (*=unreadable) Kate LILLEY married John PARKER Qrt Mar 1890 District: Derby (in Derbyshire) Vol: 7b Pg: 617 Looks like John PARKER was married before 1881 Census Dwelling 1 Siddals Road Census Place Derby St Peter, Derby, England John PARKER Head age: 34 b: Crewe Occ: Furniture Broker Mary PARKER Wife age: 32 b: Derby, England Ellen PARKER daug age: 13 b: Derby, England John PARKER Son age: 7 b: Derby, England James PARKER Son age: 5 b: Derby, England Rosa PARKER Daur age: 3 b: Derby, England Thomas PARKER Son age: 1 b: Derby, England Fred PARKER Son age: 3 m b: Derby, England Kate is with her Grandparents on the 1871 Census in Lancashire Salford also Grandson Thos Hy SMITH is with his grandparents also same as 1881 Census Kate looks like she is with her Grandparents,mother and a sister on 1861 Census in Derbyshire also but is listed as Catherine Henry PEMBERTON b: Ann PEMBERTON wife b: Derbyshire Mary LILLEY daug b: abt: 1835 Mansfield Nottinghamshire William PEMBERTON son b: abt: 1840 Mansfield NOttinghamshire Catherine PEMBERTOn daug b; abt: 1840 Mansfield Nottinghamshire Henry PEMBERTON son b: abt: 1842 Derbyshire Ann PEMBERTON daug b: abt: 1845 Derbyshire Jane PEMBERTON daug b: abt: 1848 Derbyshire Catherine LILLEY grand daug b: abt: 1861 Derbyshire Ann LILLEY grand daug b: abt: 1858 Derbyshire The only marriage I can find that would fit with Kate's mother. FreeBMD Mary PEMBERTON married Frederick George LILLY Qrt Jun 1856 District: Derby (in Derbyshire) Vol: 7b Pg: 530 It looks like Kate's father died in 1860 LILLEY Frederick George died Qrt Mar 1860 District: Derby (in Derbyshire) Vol: 7b Pg: 260. On the IGI (International Genealogy Index) Possible marriage for Kate's Grandparents. Marriages: Spouse: HENRY PEMBERTON married ANN SLANEY Marriage: 26 MAY 1828 Cuckney, Nottingham, England and birth of her Grandmother. (note only on the 1881 Census is her birthplace stated as Notts every other census Derbyshire) SLANEY, Ann - Christening: 31 JAN 1808 Pleasley, Derby, England Parents: Father: JOHN SLANEY Family Mother: CATHARINE Hope it helps Tania Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pete_lodge Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15354/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for further information on the family of Thomas KNAPTON and Caroline JENNINGS, believe they married Dec Quarter 1868 at Bradford, YK...hoping for their parents names. I have one daughter to this couple Annie KNAPTON born 6 May 1877. Annie married 1903 in Philadelphia US to a William Alfred WARD, however they returned to Bradford before 1909. Parents of William Alfred WARD are Absalom WARD and Ann HIRST, further information on them also appreciated. Thanks Janice Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pete_lodge Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15353/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for further information on the family of Absalom WARD and Ann HIRST, believe they married Sep Quarter 1861 at Bradford, YK...hoping for their parents names. Can't find Absalom WARD in any census....??? I have one son to this couple William Alfred WARD born 29 Dec 1875...William married 1903 in Philadelphia US to an Annie KNAPTON, however they returned to Bradford before 1909. Parents of Annie KNAPTON are Thomas KNAPTON and Caroline JENNINGS, further information on them also appreciated. Thanks Janice Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jandel17 Surnames: lilley Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15352/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hope you do not mind me contacting you,I am new to computers and family search.The surname Lilley caught my eye,my great grandmother was Kate |Lilley born in Derby about 1861, my great grandfather was John Parker.Any help. Regards Jan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LindasFamilyTrees Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15350.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi there, Sorry, no he lived in Batley, Yorkshire. His father was Peter Bruce Thanks for your trouble Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: york_lanc_FH Surnames: BRUCE Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15350.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi If your Wilfred lived in Manchester Droylsden area then I have found his records Father John B BRUCE Christine Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Sorry, I can't help specifically with Wilfred, but I would be interested to know whether you have a relative of his living in Batley, working as a shop keeper in the 1930s/40s ? Regards Mark ======================================== Message Received: Aug 19 2009, 10:00 AM From: "[email protected]" To: [email protected] Cc: Subject: [YORKSHIRE] Wilfred Bruce of Batley This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LindasFamilyTrees Surnames: Bruce Classification: military Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15350/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am interested in finding WW1 records relating to Wilfred Bruce's service. He was born in Batley around 1891 and died in Middlesbrough in 1952. He served in Mesopotamia, and the only information I have is that he lost an eye during his service. Any help greatly appreciated. I am waiting for a photo from another familiy member of Wilf in his WW1 uniform. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LindasFamilyTrees Surnames: Bruce Classification: military Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15350/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am interested in finding WW1 records relating to Wilfred Bruce's service. He was born in Batley around 1891 and died in Middlesbrough in 1952. He served in Mesopotamia, and the only information I have is that he lost an eye during his service. Any help greatly appreciated. I am waiting for a photo from another familiy member of Wilf in his WW1 uniform. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: hclapham Surnames: Clapham Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/5732.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Theresa, my g-grandfather Benjamin Clapham was born 1818 in Guisley/Yorkshire. Maybe he is the Benjamin you mentioned. Please have a look at my Englisch-German Family Tree. Kind regards Harald N. Clapham Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Pete_Smee Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15348.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Bill Fantastic, Now why didn't I think of looking under Hatfield? Probably because I've never heard of it in Yorkshire! All I ever think of is Airplane Factories when I see that name :-) pete Many thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: William_Hide Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15348.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Pete, is this him? Regards Bill Holmes, John, 50 Yorks W R - Doncaster, Rotherham, Sheffield, Thorne & Worksop HO107/1331/10/~F7 With: Elizabeth 46, James 24, William 22, Ann 20, John 18, Sarah 13, Elizabet 10, Thomas 7. Henry 5. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Pete_Smee Surnames: holmes Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15348/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Can anyone help me locate a family in Stainforth in the 1841 Census? I am looking for a Family but can't seem to find the right parish/Hundred? John Holmes or Holms b1791 Notts Wife Elizabeth b1795 Notts then kids all born Stainforth Ann 1823 John 1824 Sarah 1829 Elizabeth 1831 Henry 1836 and hopefully a James b1817 Notts although he may already have married. TIA Pete Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.