This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: suecoombs115 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15385.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, You may/maynot have the following information already. I have found the following marriage which may be Edgar's parents. England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 about Samuel Rhodes Name: Samuel Rhodes Year of Registration: 1914 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Spouse's Surname: Wood District: Leeds (1837-1929) County: Yorkshire - West Riding Volume: 9b Page: 780 To confirm this you would need to order Edgar's birth certificate. There are also several other 'Rhodes' children born to a mother with maiden name 'Wood'. Annie born Jun qtr 1917 Bradford 9b 115 Charlotte A born Jun qtr 1919 Bradford 9b 129 Bernard born Mar qtr 1921 Bradford 9b 172 James born Sep qtr 1925 Bradford 9b 129 Do you have details of any of Edgar's children as this may help us find his first wife's maiden name? Sue Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: psnam Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15386/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for any descendants or information on the family of Leonard Pilkington (1901) and Luella Parkin (1904). They were married in Ecclesall in 1927. I believe that they had three children: Jean Pilkington (1928) Ecclesall; Brenda Pilkington (1936) Sheffield; Alan Pilkington (1943) Sheffield. Their children may be my second cousins Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lwkaren5 Surnames: Rhodes, Wood, Simpson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15385/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for any info on my grandfather edgar rhodes born 18/4/1915 Bowling, Yorkshire, All I know is that he was twice married, I know nothing about first marriage, the second was to Doris Winifred Simpson in Essex 1979. I also believe his mothers maiden name to be Wood. Any help would be appreciated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi ???? Ancestrys version of freebmd does not give a date but the recent release of the London LMA records does and they also have the images of the Parish Registers so the original copy signed by the couple Transcript as follows (image has a few more details) Name: John Westaway Age: Full Age Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Spouse Name: Mary Ann Dix Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 16 Jun 1855 Parish: Saint Marylebone County: Middlesex Borough: Westminster Father Name: Wm Westaway Spouse Father Name: Samuel Dix Name: Robert Rumsey Age: Full Age Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Spouse Name: Emma Dix Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 31 Aug 1867 Parish: Saint John At Hackney County: Middlesex Borough: Hackney Father Name: George Rumsey Spouse Father Name: Samuel Dix Name: Edward Palmer Dix Age: Full Age Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874 Spouse Name: Elizabeth Shearman Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 15 Sep 1874 Parish: Saint John The Evangelist, Paddington County: Middlesex Borough: Westminster Father Name: George Dix Spouse Father Name: Henry Shearman Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Dear Bryan > This list is from FreeBMD > > Marriages Jun 1855 > DIX Mary Ann Marylebone 1a 736 > WESTAWAY John Marylebone 1a 736 > > Marriages Sep 1867 > DIX Emma Hackney 1b 631 > Rumsey Robert Hackney 1b 631 > > > Marriages Sep 1874 > Dix Edward Palmer Kensington 1a 306 > Shearman Elizabeth Kensington 1a 306 > > On Ancestry does not show the marriage date, you may need to order the > above > marriage certificate from the GRO. > > Please contact me off group list, as I have DIX family lines, can you tell > me your direct Dix Line.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mi2early Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15384/mb.ashx Message Board Post: >From http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/update.html - 25 September 2009 DEATHS: 17,333 for York East, registers at York (1950-1964) 13,663 for York, registers at York (1965-1972) MARRIAGES: 260 for Farndale St Mary, Ryedale, registers at Harrogate (1871-1978) 250 for Welburn St John, Ryedale, registers at Harrogate (1865-1978) 154 for Wharram le Street St Mary, Ryedale, registers at Harrogate (1838-1978) 260 for Wintringham St Peter, Ryedale, registers at Harrogate (1838-2003) 355 for Ellerburn St Hilda, Ryedale, registers at Harrogate (1837-1933) 205 for Flaxton Parish Church, Ryedale, registers at Harrogate (1861-1977) ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Many thanks to all responsible. Search for your Yorkshire ancestors at http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk or use the multi-region search at http://www.ukbmdsearch.org.uk/ Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi all Can someone please help with a lookup on Ancestry in the London Parish Records (Marriages and Banns) for the following DIX marriages: Mary Ann Dix and John Westaway 1855 Emma Dix and Robert Rumsey 1867 Edward Palmer Dix and Elizabeth Shearman 1874 Unfortunately I only have access to the essentials UK package at the FHL that I go to once a month and they are not available on that package, they are only available on the premium and World wide packages. I would really appreciate a transcription of the records or if possible an image. Kind Regards Bryan

  Hi Bryan, Images sent off list. Best wishes, Sue > Can someone please help with a lookup on Ancestry in the London Parish > Records (Marriages and Banns) for the following DIX marriages: > > > > Mary Ann Dix and John Westaway 1855 > > > > Emma Dix and Robert Rumsey 1867 > > > > Edward Palmer Dix and Elizabeth Shearman 1874 > > > > Unfortunately I only have access to the essentials UK package at the FHL > that I go to once a month and they are not available on that package, they > are only available on the premium and World wide packages. I would really > appreciate a transcription of the records or if possible an image. > > > > Kind Regards > > Bryan > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/

Dear Bryan This list is from FreeBMD Marriages Jun 1855 DIX Mary Ann Marylebone 1a 736 WESTAWAY John Marylebone 1a 736 Marriages Sep 1867 DIX Emma Hackney 1b 631 Rumsey Robert Hackney 1b 631 Marriages Sep 1874 Dix Edward Palmer Kensington 1a 306 Shearman Elizabeth Kensington 1a 306 On Ancestry does not show the marriage date, you may need to order the above marriage certificate from the GRO. Please contact me off group list, as I have DIX family lines, can you tell me your direct Dix Line. Please contact me directly at [email protected] Robert On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Bryan Dix <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi all > > > > Can someone please help with a lookup on Ancestry in the London Parish > Records (Marriages and Banns) for the following DIX marriages: > > > > Mary Ann Dix and John Westaway 1855 > > > > Emma Dix and Robert Rumsey 1867 > > > > Edward Palmer Dix and Elizabeth Shearman 1874 > > > > Unfortunately I only have access to the essentials UK package at the FHL > that I go to once a month and they are not available on that package, they > are only available on the premium and World wide packages. I would really > appreciate a transcription of the records or if possible an image. > > > > Kind Regards > > Bryan > > > > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: parawright Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/4914.5.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Kitty-Kat, Josiah was my maternal G.G.Grandfather. I have quite a bit of info. on him and his family. if you can e-mail me I will pass it on to you, I think you will be pleased. Fred. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kittykat85sb2002 Surnames: Schorah Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/4914.5.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Ive been trying to find out about Josiah Schorah also... I've spoken to my Dad and it turns out Josiah is actualy my g.grandads half brother... and he was a shipping agent who worked on the docks in Liverpool, (he turned out to be very wealthy and successful by all accounts) I also have been told he had a property in Moorfield, Liverpool. He then moved onto Canada i've been told... I lose track after that. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: alanfisher20 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15374.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: BRYAN, THANKS ONCE MORE FOR YOUR ADVICE. THE THICK BRUMMIE (STILL SHOUTING) ALAN Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: genehunter2007 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15377.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Believe the school was called Sheepscar School and it was located on Wilmington Grove. Check the Leodis website for photos, etc. See: http://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?resourceIdentifier=2002926_55639285 and http://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?resourceIdentifier=3731 My mother used to jokingly call it "Sheepscar College on the Beck". It was an infants and juniors school so definitely not a college! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JacquelineBowen42 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/3370.4690/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Eric Ernest Samuel Hastrop is in my line. Please contact me at: [email protected] Regards Jacqui Bowen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello all,   Another date for your diary!  This Saturday, the 26th September, the Beck Isle Museum is hosting a Family History Day. Come along and find some knowledgeable people who may be able to help and/or advise about finding some ancestors, not just in the Pickering/Ryedale area, but anywhere.   I will be there, with my name badge, so please stop and say hello!   Also, don't forget the Scarborough Family History Fair at Pindar Leisure Centre, Eastfield, on Saturday 10th October.   Regards   Janice Wood

Hi Roy, Sorry I didn't have time to reply yesterday and spent the day thinking it all over while I was working, infact have just turned on computer to do so this morning when received your next one. I am very grateful and thankful for all the  time and effort you have gone to on my behalf. All the info you sent me is exciting to read through and as I had nothing, sounds as though it could well be the correct info I need for my Rachael BROWN. Yes I agree that she must have put herself about a bit, sounds like so many today! Will now be interesting to see if any family reply. Were you unable to find her and her children in 1841 & 1851 cenus's? I have tried but none seem to tally. Was interested in the use of son-in-law and what it meant then, thankyou. The family weren't really talked about when I was growing up and I only decided to do the family tree after my mum died 10 yrs ago, so only had my granddads name and one of his sisters to go on. Have done it all via the net until now seeming to come to a brick wall where nothing seemed to fit for Rachael B. I am a widow on limited means so the cost of some sites has meant I had to look for other ways for help. Its the first time I have written to the message board for help and your response was amazing. Will let you know if anything else comes along to verify it all. Thanking you once again, Jenny --- On Wed, 23/9/09, Roy Stockdill <[email protected]> wrote: From: Roy Stockdill <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] Rachael BROWN of Horncastle, 1800-1880's To: [email protected] Received: Wednesday, 23 September, 2009, 11:59 PM If Jenny Goldsworthy is out there in New Zealand, I would be grateful if she would let me know whether she saw my two lengthy messages re her above query and whether I have solved the mystery for her. It's always nice to know the outcome when one has put oneself out a bit to try and solve a challenge! -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If Jenny Goldsworthy is out there in New Zealand, I would be grateful if she would let me know whether she saw my two lengthy messages re her above query and whether I have solved the mystery for her. It's always nice to know the outcome when one has put oneself out a bit to try and solve a challenge! -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cushniedriller1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/2454.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Posted a long time ago I know, but I have something similar (locations, and names) in my tree, but I have a Mary married to a Thomas Beaumont born 1785 in Kirkburton (3 or so miles from his Christening location at Holmfirth). Might be some relation!? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I have an ancestor, Thomas Donovan, who indicates on the census years that he was born in Sheffield in 1856, but his birth does not appear to be recorded. Can anyone tell me how many Catholic Churches (and their names) that were in Sheffield at that time....a long shot, but I thought maybe there would be a record of a baptism. Thank you. Rene/USA

On 22 Sep 2009 at 14:30, Roy Stockdill wrote: > On 21 Sep 2009 at 22:28, Jenny Goldsworthy wrote: > > > > > Who is Rachael BROWN and what became of her! > > > > Rachael BROWN had 3 children chr. at Horncastle, no > > father for the children was listed and she was listed as a > > domestic servant. Charles Thomas BROWN chr.2Oct. > > 1831, William Henry BROWN chr.20 June 1833, Jane > > BROWN chr.26 Oct. 1834. I know Charles Thomas > > BROWN marr.1855 Hull toMary Elizabeth JACKSON > > andby 1881 cenus was living in Sheffieldlisted > > asThomas BROWN.They were my > > g.g.grandparents. On his marriage certificate he > > gave his fathers name as Thomas BROWN, a joiner. > > Can't seem to find a relevant marriage for Rachael > > BROWN so she may have been unmarried, and doesn't > > seem to be on Cenus returns for 1841 or 1851 > > nor her children. She may be Rachael BROWN b 1810 > > daughter of John BROWN & Elizabeth BELLAMY. She > > may be Rachael BROWN mar.2 Dec. 1845 Holy Trinity > > Church, Kingston upon Hull to Thomas Simpson > > LONGMORE. or even Rachael BROWN d. 1845 > > Gainsborough. I hope someone can help with > > information about her, her birth family and her 2 children > > William Henry BROWN & Jane BROWN and what > > became of them. > > > As I live in New Zealand searching Hull and Lincolnshire > > is difficult as everything seems to be listed as , "you can > > go in and search" Thanking you in advance, Jenny < < > > Frankly, I don't see anything particularly difficult about > searching in England when you live in New Zealand, since > so much is online including all the census returns 1841- > 1911, plus the IGI, FreeBMD and parish records. > > Firstly, if you go to Findmypast and do a search in their > Parish Records - Baptisms you will find a record of a child > in 1831, shown only as "male", at Horncastle. The > document > type says this is not actually a baptism but a maintenance > order and the mother is given as RACHEL BROWN. The > father is shown as THOMAS YOUNG of Louth, coal > merchant. It seems highly likely to me that this child was > your Charles Thomas Brown, your gt-gt-grandfather. The > source of the record is given as Lincolnshire Parish > Bastardy Records. If he gave his father's name as > Thomas Brown when he married, this was probably to > cover his embarrassment and not wanting to admit he was > illegitimate - a very common thing. > > Secondly, the Rachel Brown buried at Gainsborough in > 1845 cannot be your Rachel because this burial appears > at FMP in the National Burial Index for Lincolnshire and > the record says the age at death was "infant". > > Third, FMP parish records has the burial at St Mary, > Horncastle on 27 June 1833 of a Wm Henry Brown, infant. > So that explains what happened to at least one of Charles's > siblings - he died a week after being baptised. > Finally, the 1841 census has several Thomas Youngs at > Louth. Unfortunately, relationships and marital status are > not shown in 1841, but my guess would be that Rachel > had a long-standing relationship with someone who was > not free to marry her, probably because he was already > married. Of course, it is not certain by any means that > Thomas Young was the father of all her children, since I > have found a bastardy maintenance order for only one, the > first child Charles Thomas.> I have further information for you, all found relatively easily online. On the assumption that your Rachael Brown was probably the one baptised at Horncastle in 1810, I looked for any female called Rachael or Rachel (entering no surname at all) born at Horncastle in the censuses. This produced entries in 1861, 1871 and 1881. In 1861 there is only one Rachael born at Horncastle circa 1811 and this is a Rachael CRANE, widow, at Hull with a 16-year-old son William. I then went to FreeBMD and found the following potential marriage..... Marriages Sep 1853 Brown Rachel Hull 9d 306 CRANE William Hull 9d 306 If the marriage was not until 1853 and William was born in 1845, then I thought he was probably Rachael's stepson. Sure enough, he is found in the 1851 census at Hull, the son of William and Hannah Crane. His mother must have died and William remarried to Rachael. In fact, this is confirmed in the 1871 census when William Crane appears, still at Hull, as Rachael's son-in-law (meaning stepson, NOT son-in- law as we understand the term today). The head of the household in 1871 is an unmarried woman of 32 called Arrabella BROWN and Rachael is shown as her mother, so Rachael must have had a fourth child in or about 1838/9! Arrabella was born in Hull, so Rachael must have moved there prior to the 1841 census. You will find the IGI has the baptism at Holy Trinity, Kingston Upon Hull, on 24 Oct 1838 of a female child called ARABELLA CAROLINE BROWN BROWN. Was the double-Brown a transcription error or was the father of this child coincidentally called Brown also? The mother is shown as RACHEL BROWN. It looks as if your gt-gt-gt- grandmother put herself around a bit, I'm afraid to say! In 1881 Rachel [sic} is found, now aged 70, still called CRANE, at 3 Hessle Rd Buildings, Hull, sharing the house with another elderly woman called Eliza Cockerill. Rachel's occupation is given as "Annuitant", so she must have had a bit of money from somewhere. Finally, FreeBMD has the death at Hull in the March quarter of 1889 of RACHEL CRANE, aged 78, vol 9d page 155. I think I can now say I think it is very likely I have solved for you the mystery of who Rachael/Rachel was and what happened to her. In summary, she was born circa 1810 at Horncastle, Lincolnshire, the daughter of John and Elizabeth Brown; she had 3 illegitimate children at Horncastle, of which at least one died; she had a 4th illegitimate child at Hull; married at Hull in 1853 to William Crane, was widowed in the 1850s and died herself at Hull in 1889. Will that do? Of course, if I've followed the wrong Rachael Brown, then disregard this entirely !!! <vbg> -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

On 21 Sep 2009 at 22:28, Jenny Goldsworthy wrote: > > Who is Rachael BROWN and what became of her! >   > Rachael BROWN had 3 children chr. at Horncastle, no father for the children was listed and she was listed as a domestic servant. Charles Thomas BROWN chr.2Oct. 1831, William Henry BROWN chr.20 June 1833, > Jane BROWN chr.26 Oct. 1834.   I know Charles Thomas BROWN marr.1855 Hull to Mary Elizabeth JACKSON and  by 1881 cenus was living in Sheffield listed as Thomas BROWN. They were my g.g.grandparents. On his marriage certificate he gave his fathers name as Thomas BROWN, a joiner.   Can't seem to find a relevant marriage for Rachael BROWN so she may have been unmarried, and doesn't seem to be on Cenus returns for 1841 or 1851 nor her children.   She may be Rachael BROWN b 1810 daughter of John BROWN & Elizabeth BELLAMY. She may be Rachael BROWN mar.2 Dec. 1845 Holy Trinity Church, Kingston upon Hull to Thomas Simpson LONGMORE. or even Rachael BROWN d. 1845 Gainsborough.   I hope someone can help with information about her, her birth family and her 2 children William Henry BROWN & Jane BROWN and what became of them.   > As I live in New Zealand searching Hull and Lincolnshire is > difficult as everything seems to be listed as , "you can go > in and search"   > Thanking you in advance, Jenny < Frankly, I don't see anything particularly difficult about searching in England when you live in New Zealand, since so much is online including all the census returns 1841- 1911, plus the IGI, FreeBMD and parish records. Firstly, if you go to Findmypast and do a search in their Parish Records - Baptisms you will find a record of a child in 1831, shown only as "male", at Horncastle. The document type says this is not actually a baptism but a maintenance order and the mother is given as RACHEL BROWN. The father is shown as THOMAS YOUNG of Louth, coal merchant. It seems highly likely to me that this child was your Charles Thomas Brown, your gt-gt-grandfather. The source of the record is given as Lincolnshire Parish Bastardy Records. If he gave his father's name as Thomas Brown when he married, this was probably to cover his embarrassment and not wanting to admit he was illegitimate - a very common thing. Secondly, the Rachel Brown buried at Gainsborough in 1845 cannot be your Rachel because this burial appears at FMP in the National Burial Index for Lincolnshire and the record says the age at death was "infant". Third, FMP parish records has the burial at St Mary, Horncastle on 27 June 1833 of a Wm Henry Brown, infant. So that explains what happened to at least one of Charles's siblings - he died a week after being baptised. Finally, the 1841 census has several Thomas Youngs at Louth. Unfortunately, relationships and marital status are not shown in 1841, but my guess would be that Rachel had a long-standing relationship with someone who was not free to marry her, probably because he was already married. Of course, it is not certain by any means that Thomas Young was the father of all her children, since I have found a bastardy maintenance order for only one, the first child Charles Thomas. -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE