Hi Marie What was his name ? If a career soldier when did he serve to or do you not know as yet ? I ask as a lot depends on when he served to, as to how accessible his service records might be Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > Can anyone help me with information on the above regiment please. I need > to find more information on a soldier in the regimental band. He would > have served in the 1914-1918 war was a career solidier . Just do not > know where to start. > > Would be most grateful for any help. > Marie

I am new to the list and hope that somewhere out there, there may be a connection to this family. My husbands grandmother seems to have had a very chequered  life and it has taken me about 20 years to piece all the information together. Ada HOLBROOK was born in 1885 at Wood Street, Mexbrough, the illegitimate daughter of Mary Ann Holbrook. Ada's mother, later married John PEAR in Swinton and had two more daughters Annie Elizabeth and Sarah Ellen.  Ada had a daughter Alice in 1906 to Frederick COOPER. He is named on the birth certificate. Ada married Frederick COOPER in 1908 in Swinton.They also had a son, Thomas Edward in 1908, who died in 1909. Ada then appears to have left Frederick sometime after this. By 1911, Ada was boarding in Bradford, and also boarding there was Thomas William STONE. In May 1911 Ada  had twins Mary and Florence at Daniel Street, Bradford and the father is named on the birth certificates as Thomas Stone. Both signed the certificate. She signed as Ada Cooper. The next time that I find Ada she is on her own in 1913, when she is living at 16, Edlington street, Denaby Main and working as a domestic housekeeper for the SAMPSON family. Here she gave birth to ERNEST COOPER. No father on the birth certificate and Ada is just using the name of Cooper. In the same year, Ada, Mary and Ernest entered the Rotherham workhouse and were in and out of there until 1916 when Ada finally left with Ernest, but he was later entered back in there. Mary and Ernest were brought up in different children's homes in Rotherham. They never saw their mother again. In 1917, Ada was living at 43, Bank Street, Mexbrough and gave birth to a son Joseph COOPER. Her occupation is given as a domestic housekeeper on his birth certificate. Her maiden name of HOLBROOK is also on it but no fathers name. In 1924, Ada died in Springwell House, Doncaster, a workhouse cum hospital. She was 39. So, my quest now is to find any descendants of the children that she had. My father in law never knew that he had any family, even though they were half siblings, and lost touch with his sister MARY COOPER, who I believe died in a home somewhere down South in the 1960/70's but we are not sure about that. The problem is that  it was never spoken about and no one left to ask. Sadly, I have found a death of ALICE HOLBROOK COOPER aged 89 and registered in Huddersfield, as late as 1995, so it would appear that she did not marry but have not found any trace of FLORENCE COOPER/STONE, the other twin born in Bradford in 1911 or JOSEPH COOPER born in Mexbrough in 1917. If anyone can help with any information on any of these  people or families, I would be most grateful and thank you for reading my long message. Carol Cooper in Sheffield

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BryanHoggarth Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15394.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There is a Ravensworth "par. & vil." 5 miles NW of Richmond. The people from that area do not have accents - it's every on else who talk funny. Bryan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SheilaNicolson Surnames: Hutton Scurr Classification: death Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/707.4543.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, >From my grandfather backwards (in time) all the Hutton family were from Whitby. I was always told I had a relative from Whitby who was 'lost at sea' and think I've found the name but would love to find out more, if anyone knows anything. Think William Hutton was born 1790, married Isabella Scurr in 1812 in South Shields (she was born Whitby), they had 5 offspring and lived in Cliff Lane, Whitby. He doesn't appear in the 1841 census and in the 1851 census Isabella is described as a sailor's widow. Does anyone know anything about this relative or the family? Thanks, Sheila Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

A very sincere thanks to all of the "Listers" who answered my query re "where was/is Low Moor Pauline [email protected]

Hi, This is list of Whitby Mariners which may help. _http://www.angelfire.com/de/BobSanders/MMWHIT69.html_ (http://www.angelfire.com/de/BobSanders/MMWHIT69.html) JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com [email protected] www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

Hi . I had a problem trying to find the location of an ancestor in the 1851census . Not on 1861 census . Asked where born and gave the name of the house not the town . correct Info from Death certificate . Laurie This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: krchoy Surnames: Roberts Classification: queries I have two Queensland Source documents with place of birth for William Roberts. The earlier entry states "Ravenswood, Yorkshire, England" while the second states "Richmond, Yorkshire, England". I've tried squinting hard and I still can't make the first Yorkshire look like Berkshire. So, is there somewhere near Richmond that might sound like Ravenswood. Do the folks from there have a strong accent perhaps?

Thank you for your explanation. Just when you think you understand something, it changes. I read with amusement Comments Prince Phillip is reputed to have said about the difficulty of operating a TV remote which seems simple to a 10 year old grandchild. I understand exactly what he means. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] Gateway messages > > In a message dated 11/10/2009 10:33:59 GMT Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Somehow I have missed why decisions were made to link some of the lists > I > am on with Gateway and why we have to reply to two sources. What was > wrong > with the system we had? > > In order to read what we wrote to a list one had to look up the archives > whereas many of these other sources seem to be freely available to > anyone. > It no longer feels as secure as it once did. Information goes to places > one > might not have chosen to write it to. Have the genealogical lists > somehow > lost their appeal. I no longer bother to unsubscribe when I am away from > home because the volume is so small I can handle it. > > > HI Jean, > > I think there are many answers to you letter. > > Unfortunately we have to use the gateways lists as well because not all > the > questions are shown on the lists, so you get answers out of the blue which > don't make sense. You have to go into the list to read the full enquiry > and some of the replies. As a list owner I have been obliged to have > gateway lists to help with other people's research. Some people do not > use > lists at all. > > Secondly the volume of letters on the lists is much smaller now because > there are so many research sites on the net people do not need to ask and > sometimes it is only "brick walls" that people ask about. > > The number of sites available is astronomical to those available when I > had > my first computer just over ten years ago. > > JUDY ELKINGTON > [N. Derbyshire, England] > > www.elkingtonfamily.com > [email protected] > www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html > > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Thank you for your explanation. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] Gateway messages > Hi Jean > > Both boards and lists are rootswebs and both are and were freely > searchable > by anyone, the rootsweb search engine just does it more specifically to > the > enquiry, google will pick up much of what is posted on rootsweb dependent > on > the search criteria used > > You have always been able to pick up rootsweb postings via a search engine > > Some people prefer boards, others lists, the gateways are purely a way for > the list members to see the posts on the board (generally of the same name > and covering the same area) the choice as to whether a board / list are > gatewayed is with the board / list administrator (sometimes one and the > same > person) > > You do not need to reply to two places, just one where it is a board post > as > I explained off list > > If there is a board post and you wish to reply, click the blue link in the > gatewayed post and reply to the board, your reply will in turn be > gatewayed > back to the list > > Nothing has changed in recent years > > My personal opinion as to why the lists have become quieter in recent > times > is purely the plethora of information which is now available online, less > questions need to be asked than there used to be, more people can do their > own research than a few short years ago, people are in the main more > "savvy" > than they were > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > >> Somehow I have missed why decisions were made to link some of the lists >> I >> am on with Gateway and why we have to reply to two sources. What was >> wrong >> with the system we had? >> >> In order to read what we wrote to a list one had to look up the archives >> whereas many of these other sources seem to be freely available to >> anyone. >> It no longer feels as secure as it once did. Information goes to places >> one >> might not have chosen to write it to. Have the genealogical lists >> somehow >> lost their appeal. I no longer bother to unsubscribe when I am away from >> home because the volume is so small I can handle it. >> >> Jean in Australia. > > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: krchoy Surnames: Roberts Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15394/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have two Queensland Source documents with place of birth for William Roberts. The earlier entry states "Ravenswood, Yorkshire, England" while the second states "Richmond, Yorkshire, England". I've tried squinting hard and I still can't make the first Yorkshire look like Berkshire. So, is there somewhere near Richmond that might sound like Ravenswood. Do the folks from there have a strong accent perhaps? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Somehow I have missed why decisions were made to link some of the lists I am on with Gateway and why we have to reply to two sources. What was wrong with the system we had? In order to read what we wrote to a list one had to look up the archives whereas many of these other sources seem to be freely available to anyone. It no longer feels as secure as it once did. Information goes to places one might not have chosen to write it to. Have the genealogical lists somehow lost their appeal. I no longer bother to unsubscribe when I am away from home because the volume is so small I can handle it. Jean in Australia.

I think it is Ravensworth (or Kirkby Ravensworth in full?) where my family (Coates and Fenwick etc.) come from.  It is near Richmond. Robin McConnell --- On Sun, 11/10/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [YORKSHIRE] Sounds like Ravenswood, in Yorkshire? To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, 11 October, 2009, 9:40 PM This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: krchoy Surnames: Roberts Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15394/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have two Queensland Source documents with place of birth for William Roberts. The earlier entry states "Ravenswood, Yorkshire, England" while the second states "Richmond, Yorkshire, England". I've tried squinting hard and I still can't make the first Yorkshire look like Berkshire. So, is there somewhere near Richmond that might sound like Ravenswood. Do the folks from there have a strong accent perhaps? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jean Both boards and lists are rootswebs and both are and were freely searchable by anyone, the rootsweb search engine just does it more specifically to the enquiry, google will pick up much of what is posted on rootsweb dependent on the search criteria used You have always been able to pick up rootsweb postings via a search engine Some people prefer boards, others lists, the gateways are purely a way for the list members to see the posts on the board (generally of the same name and covering the same area) the choice as to whether a board / list are gatewayed is with the board / list administrator (sometimes one and the same person) You do not need to reply to two places, just one where it is a board post as I explained off list If there is a board post and you wish to reply, click the blue link in the gatewayed post and reply to the board, your reply will in turn be gatewayed back to the list Nothing has changed in recent years My personal opinion as to why the lists have become quieter in recent times is purely the plethora of information which is now available online, less questions need to be asked than there used to be, more people can do their own research than a few short years ago, people are in the main more "savvy" than they were Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Somehow I have missed why decisions were made to link some of the lists I > am on with Gateway and why we have to reply to two sources. What was > wrong > with the system we had? > > In order to read what we wrote to a list one had to look up the archives > whereas many of these other sources seem to be freely available to anyone. > It no longer feels as secure as it once did. Information goes to places > one > might not have chosen to write it to. Have the genealogical lists somehow > lost their appeal. I no longer bother to unsubscribe when I am away from > home because the volume is so small I can handle it. > > Jean in Australia.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DaiJones Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15393/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for any information about John Phillips born circa 1851 son of Henry Phillips. The only information I have is the 1911 census and his marriage certificate. He married Emily Green in Newent, Gloucestershire 1st April 1905 he was aged 54 a bachelor profession Sadler, father Henry Phillips deceased Cordwinder. In the 1911 census aged 60 Sadler born Stokesley, Yorkshire. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lexiebenson94 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15392.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes this is the right one! Thanks. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

In a message dated 11/10/2009 10:33:59 GMT Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Somehow I have missed why decisions were made to link some of the lists I am on with Gateway and why we have to reply to two sources. What was wrong with the system we had? In order to read what we wrote to a list one had to look up the archives whereas many of these other sources seem to be freely available to anyone. It no longer feels as secure as it once did. Information goes to places one might not have chosen to write it to. Have the genealogical lists somehow lost their appeal. I no longer bother to unsubscribe when I am away from home because the volume is so small I can handle it. HI Jean, I think there are many answers to you letter. Unfortunately we have to use the gateways lists as well because not all the questions are shown on the lists, so you get answers out of the blue which don't make sense. You have to go into the list to read the full enquiry and some of the replies. As a list owner I have been obliged to have gateway lists to help with other people's research. Some people do not use lists at all. Secondly the volume of letters on the lists is much smaller now because there are so many research sites on the net people do not need to ask and sometimes it is only "brick walls" that people ask about. The number of sites available is astronomical to those available when I had my first computer just over ten years ago. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com [email protected] www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ovington1_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15392.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It would be a great help to at least give an idea of the decade you are looking for this marriage The only Ivy GARFITT to a WHITE is this one Name: Ivy Garfitt Spouse Surname: White Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1938 Registration district: Wakefield Registration county (inferred): Yorkshire - West Riding Volume Number: 9c Page Number: 188 Name: Arnold White Spouse Surname: Garfitt Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1938 Registration district: Wakefield Registration county (inferred): Yorkshire - West Riding Volume Number: 9c Page Number: 188 But if you are looking for 1890's it won't be much use If it is the event you seek to see more you would need to buy the certificate Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lexiebenson94 Surnames: Garfitt White Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15392/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Ivy Garfitt married John White in West Yorkshire. This is all I know, so could anyone tell me what year and where exactly? Thanks Alexandra Benson Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I did wonder if Shelley nr. Kirburton could be a possibility if you try to pronounce this with a yorkshire accent the enumerator could have misheard. Jean in Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] A placename in Yorkshire > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: eec131 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15390.1.1.2/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Hi Sue, > > I managed to find it that time - on the 1871 & 1881 census you refer to. > Its not clear at all - you might be best uploading an image for the > handwriting experts to look at! I've not come across that name anywhere > in Yorkshire but Elland is a possibility. > > There is no more info on the census about which part of Yorkshire it was, > so you will need some more info from somewhere! Yorkshire used to be > divided into Ridings (separate counties), Elland would have been in the > West Riding. > > Sorry, can't be more help & useless at handwriting! > Good Luck > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BryanHoggarth Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15390.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In 1871 it looks like Yellay and in 1881 like Yellen. Patrick may well have not been able to write and his accent?? How about them having the County wrong. maybe it is Yealand Redmayne or Yealand Conyer which are in Lancashire north of Warton but not far from the border with Yorkshire and maybe the family moved to Yorkshire or maybe Mary Ann just did not know which County she was born in. 1851 Census Ho107-2273 Folio, Yealand Redmayne has a Thomas & Elizabeth BRENNAND both age 39 with 5 children. Unfortunately theer is not a Mary Ann though she may have been with grandparents or similar. Thomas was an Ag Lab and born LAN, Whittington. 1841 Ho107-531-21 folio 6 has Thomas BRENNAN age 29 Ln Weaver Wife Betty age 29 Children: Jane 7, James 4, William 2. Oddly the children seem not to have been born in Lancashire. Maybe this is not the right Thomas BRENNAN but it shows the surname was around the area. Bryan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.