On 25 Oct 2009 at 19:55, [email protected] wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: mthompson651 > Surnames: Wray > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/53 > 28.3/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Hi Tammy > > I am researching my family tree and the WRAY family from Shaw > Mills/Bishop Thornton are one of my descendants. I do have a Samuel > Wray (b. 1860). But do not know of a Samuel born 1880. > If you are researching your family history, could I respectfully suggest that you learn the difference between ancestors and descendants? -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mthompson651 Surnames: Wray Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/5328.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Tammy I am researching my family tree and the WRAY family from Shaw Mills/Bishop Thornton are one of my descendants. I do have a Samuel Wray (b. 1860). But do not know of a Samuel born 1880. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: grk56 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15403.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Can't find a marriage certificate but both birth certificates show Elizabeth or Lizzie Davis formerly Kislingbury. I do know that they returned to the Wallingford (Berks/ Oxon area)but still haven't been able to trace!! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dbhouston Surnames: FISH Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/2815.3048.3044/mb.ashx Message Board Post: - from 1861 & 1871 censuses at www.nationalarchives.gov.uk JOSEPH FISH, bc 1814 Yorkshire wife MARIA FISH, bc 1823 Lincolnshire children: 1. CHARLES P. FISH, bc 1847 Yorkshire, residence Yorkshire 2. DAVID FISH, bc 1852 Yorkshire, residence Yorkshire 3. JOSEPH FISH, bc 1853 Yorkshire, residence Yorkshire 4. ANN FISH, bc 1858 Yorkshire, residence Yorkshire 5. JANE ELIZTH. FISH, bc 1860 Yorkshire, residence Yorkshire 6. MARIA FISH, bc 1863 Yorkshire, residence Yorkshire 1883 Smith's Commercial Directory of the Isle of Man, www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/fulltext/sm1883/do.htm -C. P. FISH, auctioneer, Duke Street, Douglas, Isle of Man 1886 DEATH wwwfreebmd.org.uk -CHARLES PARKIN FISH, age 40, Fylde, registered Oct/Nov/Dec 1886 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: oliverthecat1945 Surnames: DAVIS KISLINGBURY Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15403.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Have you found a Marriage for this couple? I cant find one at moment. Does the birth cert state Mother Elizabeth DAVIS formerly KISLINGBURY? Christine Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: luan112 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/4830.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, but of a long shot as this is an old post ! I have a mary limbert in my tree, born 1813 in garforth. She married James Roberts and had 7 children.. 1836-1851. but i can;t find a birth or marriage record to get back any further. If anybody has mary limbert in their tree, a clue would be helpful ! thank ou and kind regards Luan. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

HI all, I've just received a will from 1768, out of the 450 words there is approx 35 words that I can't decipher, can anyone assist please. Of the ones I can read I'll put in context, I've tried various website to no avail. These may be fairly simple for most as this is the first time I've looked at a will that old. "perfect mind and memory, thanks to the all mighty God and "Cullin___ or Cussin___" mind the uncertainty of life" "of all my sins and my body to be buried in such place and manner as to my "leorutive" (I think)" " after to return to Mary my daughter being "Baroted or Varated" by other mannor or form above mentioned which house" "passed Seal 12 February 1771" I think it's passed what does this mean ? the Will was written in 1768, does that mean it passed probate in 1771 ? Thomas COCK left his house chattels etc.. to his daughter and one shilling each to his two sons, I'm no expert but wasn't this unusual for the time. If any one could assist or point me in the right direction I'd be very grateful. Cheers Carolyn I'm not stuck, I'm ancestrally challenged! http://www.eburacum.com/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: grk56 Surnames: Davis, Kislingbury Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15403/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for details/ records on the above two people. They appear on my Grandmother's, Elsie Davis, birth certificate and also her sister Hilda's. Elsie was born in April 1903 and they were stated as living in Naburn. Hilda was born December 1901 and all were said to be living in Stillingfleet. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Carolyn "Calling to mind the uncertainty of life"?   Kim --- On Sat, 24/10/09, Carolyn  wrote: I've just received a will from 1768, out of the 450 words there is approx 35 words that I can't decipher "perfect mind and memory, thanks to the all mighty God and "Cullin___ or Cussin___" mind the uncertainty of life"

Hi Carolyn There is a Rootsweb list designed specifically to solve this problem, and they are a very helpful group, just waiting for another challenge. It's the Old English list, and here is how you can join it. OLD-ENGLISH-L Topic: A mailing list for deciphering and interpreting documents from the British Isles, from earliest times to about 1900. This list is intended for genealogists, family and local historians, etc. Subscribing. To join OLD-ENGLISH-L, [individual emails] send email to: [email protected] with the single word subscribe in the message subject and body. To join OLD-ENGLISH-D, [digest of emails] send email to: [email protected] with the single word subscribe in the message subject and body. HTH. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 1:24 AM Subject: [YORKSHIRE] FW: Transcribing Wills and a little help > HI all, > > I've just received a will from 1768, out of the 450 words there is approx > 35 > words that I can't decipher, can anyone assist please. Of the ones I can > read I'll put in context, I've tried various website to no avail. These > may > be fairly simple for most as this is the first time I've looked at a will > that old.

Hi Carolyn Always good fun trying to work out old wills isn't it As the majority of wills follow a basic pattern I would suggest reading a few old wills of the same period There are many here for various Counties that have been transcribed http://www.willtranscriptions.co.uk/index.htm (once you have done yours you might like to donate your transcript) Once you have cracked one, you will find others much easier to follow As regards the leaving of one shilling, that is very common Two reasons for this, one to make sure the other sons could not contest the will saying they had been left out of his will by accident (in other words the deceased did not want the sons to inherit) Or the deceased had already given something to the sons before he died and wanted to make sure the remainder was for the daughter and not also claimed by the sons Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > HI all, > > I've just received a will from 1768, out of the 450 words there is approx > 35 > words that I can't decipher, can anyone assist please. Of the ones I can > read I'll put in context, I've tried various website to no avail. These > may > be fairly simple for most as this is the first time I've looked at a will > that old. > > "perfect mind and memory, thanks to the all mighty God and "Cullin___ or > Cussin___" mind the uncertainty of life" > > "of all my sins and my body to be buried in such place and manner as to my > "leorutive" (I think)" > > " after to return to Mary my daughter being "Baroted or Varated" by other > mannor or form above mentioned which house" > > "passed Seal 12 February 1771" I think it's passed what does this mean ? > the > Will was written in 1768, does that mean it passed probate in 1771 ? > > Thomas COCK left his house chattels etc.. to his daughter and one shilling > each to his two sons, I'm no expert but wasn't this unusual for the time. > > If any one could assist or point me in the right direction I'd be very > grateful. > > Cheers > > Carolyn

In a message dated 24/10/2009 06:24:59 GMT Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I've just received a will from 1768, out of the 450 words there is approx 35 words that I can't decipher, can anyone assist please. Of the ones I can read I'll put in context, I've tried various website to no avail. These may be fairly simple for most as this is the first time I've looked at a will that old. Hi, I have a wonderful contact whose mother's job is tran scribing wills as a hobby with no charge.. Why Don't you try her. I will sen d you her address off line. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com [email protected] www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Edward_Reid_Smith Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15402.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sorry, I've just noticed that my original enquiry appeared on the Yorkshire site; I'm sure that I was logged onto the Lancashire site when I sent it so it must have been hijacked! I'll copy it to Lancashire. Edward. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Edward_Reid_Smith Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15402.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: No, it's Castleton, Rochdale (Lancashire) -- presumably St Martin's parish church. Edward. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: eworld_2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15402.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Are you looking at the Esk Valley in North Yorkshire. There are several Castletons in England. See http://www.castletoncc.com/ for the Esk Valley club. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: peterngilson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/5563.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sarah Arabella Nelson married a Richard Gilson in 1883, she is quoted on the 1891 census as Bella Gilson living in Sheffield UK and on the 1901 as Sarah Gilson census as a widow, both censues quote her as being born in Kings Lynn Norfolk Her marriage certificate shows her father to be George but deceased in 1883 and they were maried in Great Ilford Essex. I would be interested to know if you have any details of her birth and mothers name as i have hit a brick wall here. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bellev40 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/1156.1308.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, I posted this message on behalf of a friend years ago. Her name is Jan Wordley and lives in Lake Bolac, Victoria, 3351 Australia. I haven't had much contact with her of late as I moved away, and I know that she has been unwell. You may have previously had contact with her as she was researching this family. If you have, then that is good. If not, you could always write her a letter in normal post and I am sure she would receive it as the Lake Bolac is a small country village. Good luck...sorry I'm not a long lost relative! Sue Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dennisfuzzy1 Surnames: BRIGGS & GLEW Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/5067.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi my Great Grandmother was called Emily Briggs born in 1870 and Annie 1865 was her oldest sister she had another sister Nellie 1877 and brothers Harry 1861 and Thomas 1863 their father was called Thomas 1831 and mother Ellen Dale 1841 all born in Woodhouse South Yorkshire,Thomas Briggs parents were Luke Briggs 1795 born in Stretton in Derbyshire and Sarah 1785 and their daughter Elizabeth 1824 born in Killamarsh Derbyshire.She married John Glew in Woodhouse and emigrated to Canada where she died in 1943.My Grandfather was also called Thomas born 1898-1975 after his Grandfather Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lindabains Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/1156.1308/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi I am connected through my husband to the Westmoreland family and have done a lot of research and I am also in touch with the branch that went to Australia. Linda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Thank you so very much for that Michele. That has been a great help and I can't thank you enough. Patricia Bee[Suffolk] > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:25:56 +0100 > Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] PUBLIC HOUSE/S - CHURCH STREET WHITBY > > Hi Patricia, > >From Pigot's directory 1834- > Taverns and Public Houses- George Frank, The Fox, Church Street. > Carriers- To Hull, Scarborough, Beverley and Driffield, George Frank and > William Cooper, from Church Street, Wednesday and Friday. > > >From White's directory 1840- > Hotels, Inns and Taverns- George Frank, The Fox, Church Street. > > >From the newspaper "The Malton Messenger"-pub. 24 April 1858 > Death, 18 April 1858, at Whitby, Mr G Frank, innkeeper, Church Street, age > 70. > > Hope this helps. > Michele Harrison > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with your friends through Messenger on your mobile http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/174426567/direct/01/