For information of Roy and anyone else who may be interested, the Office of National Statistics did a surname survey in 2002 which involved 54 million individuals in England and Wales. Out of those 54 million, just 246 were named Ormondroyd, making it the 18,639th most popular name,,,not exactly "oodles", but there you go. If anyone wants to check their surname in the survey click on the link below. Regards Martin Bentley (the 362nd most popular surname) http://www.taliesin-arlein.net/names/search.php ________________________________________________________ If you have BENTLEY from the West Riding of Yorkshire in your tree - check out my website at www.westridingbentley.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk ________________________________________________________