__________ (derek deShelfe sent on 26 Mar 2003) [For Murray Mitchell in Canada,but please read,you might be able to help him too] Hi Murray, I looked for George in the East End first,but he wasn't there.So,as I'd found Elizabeth in the West End,I thought I'd try that,and----Bingo !! 1841 Census Bradford,West End Black Abbey Joel RILEY,aged 45,Comber Hannah RILEY,aged 45. Joseph RILEY,aged 15, George RILEY,aged 15.Coal Miner Mary RILEY,aged 10,Spinner John CLEGG,aged 10,Comber. [All born in Yorkshire] This George was the only one in both West & East Ends of the right age to be your George. You'll no doubt know that ages in 1841 were rounded down to the nearest number ending in 0 or 5.Joseph might well have been as old as 19. I had a look at the IGI for Yorkshire, and found these entries,which might or might not be yours---- Joel RILEY married Hannah PENNY,2nd.Jan. 1818,Bradford. Joel RILEY bapt.29th.April 1792,son of George & Sarah RILEY,Thornton by Bradford. George RILEY married Sarah BENTLEY, 8th.March 1789,Bradford. George RILEY bapt.1st.Feb,1764,Bradford son of Joshua RILEY I expect you know that the IGI is not always to be trusted as regards accuracy All the above entries really need to be checked at their original source. Next time I go to the library would you like me to look for George & Elizabeth on the 1861 census ? Cheers----Derek.