In 1861 Nancy has her widowed daughter Sarah Burton living with her, one of her children age 6 is Tamnar Burton, could this be Tamar Stead the grandaughter, mislabelled as a Stead in 1871. (If you want the image let me know) I can't find a Tamar Stead in 1861 (including trying under James which is a common mistranscription of Tamar), so I wouldn't assume the granddaughters were illegitimate, just orphans of older children. Since Emeline appears consistently as a grandaughter until the last census, I would assume that one was wrong and the enumerator wasn't listening properly, or didn't copy the information down correctly. Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Gallop" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 12:17 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-YKS-BRADFORD] Searching for a road in old Shipley >I thought perhaps you might be able to throw some light on the 1891 EMMOTTs > shown below? The relationships as you will see are all very unclear. > > Nancy STEAD nee LUMB is my ggg grandmother. Thanks Norman G. > > 1871 census; [taken from original image] > 370 Bowling Back Lane, Bradford South, St. Mary's, piece 4455, folio 10; > Nancy STEAD, head, widow, 57, b. Yorks., Birkenshaw; > Eliza STEAD, daur., unm., 26, worsted weaver, b. Yorks., Bradford; > Annie STEAD, granddaur., (sic), unm., 18, worsted spinner, b. Yorks., > Bradford; [granddaughter = illegitimate?]] > Tamar STEAD, granddaur., (sic), unm., 16, worsted spinner, b. Yorks., > Bradford; [granddaughter = illegitimate?] > Emeline STEAD, granddaur., (sic) unm., 7, scholar, b. Yorks., Bradford. > [granddaughter = illegitimate?] > > 1881 census; > Nancy STEAD, Head, W, Female, 65, Bradford, York, England; > Emeline STEAD, Grand Daur., U, Female, 17, Bradford, York, England, > Worsted > Weaver; > Source Information: > Dwelling 98 Wakefield Road > Census Place Bowling, York, England > Family History Library Film, 342061 > Public Records Office Reference, RG11 > Piece / Folio, 4437 / 35 > Page Number 24 > > 1891 census; > [taken from original image] > Nancy STEAD, head, widow, 71, b. Yorks., Birkenshaw; > Emelene (sic) EMMOTT, daur., (sic) mar., 26, worsted weaver, b. Yorks., > Bradford; > Robert EMMOTT, grandson, (sic) single, 3, disabled - blind?, b. Yorks., > Bradford. > [Maybe the "grandaughters" shown in 1871 really were daughters? or is > Robert > really a great grandson?] > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barry Emmott" <[email protected]> > To: "ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L Rootsweb" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:56 AM > Subject: [ENG-YKS-BRADFORD] Searching for a road in old Shipley > > >> My mother and her friends lived in Regent Street and New York in Shipley >> around 1915 but I can't find any trace of these locations in current >> streetmaps. I have an old Alan Godfrey map but just can't lay my hands on >> it >> right now !!! >> If anybody can tell me where these locations were, preferably with a map, >> I'd be grateful. >> Regards, >> Barry Emmott >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.5/451 - Release Date: >> 19/09/2006 >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/457 - Release Date: 26/09/2006 > >

Thanks for the information. There's a lot of iffing and butting here that can only be resolved by certificates I think. I'll examine the situation and see which would be most fruitful. Thanks Norman G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie Gomersall" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-YKS-BRADFORD] Emmott/Stead family > In 1861 Nancy has her widowed daughter Sarah Burton living with her, one > of > her children age 6 is Tamnar Burton, could this be Tamar Stead the > grandaughter, mislabelled as a Stead in 1871. (If you want the image let > me > know) I can't find a Tamar Stead in 1861 (including trying under James > which > is a common mistranscription of Tamar), so I wouldn't assume the > granddaughters were illegitimate, just orphans of older children. Since > Emeline appears consistently as a grandaughter until the last census, I > would assume that one was wrong and the enumerator wasn't listening > properly, or didn't copy the information down correctly. > > Debbie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Norman Gallop" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 12:17 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-YKS-BRADFORD] Searching for a road in old Shipley > > >>I thought perhaps you might be able to throw some light on the 1891 >>EMMOTTs >> shown below? The relationships as you will see are all very unclear. >> >> Nancy STEAD nee LUMB is my ggg grandmother. Thanks Norman G. >> >> 1871 census; [taken from original image] >> 370 Bowling Back Lane, Bradford South, St. Mary's, piece 4455, folio 10; >> Nancy STEAD, head, widow, 57, b. Yorks., Birkenshaw; >> Eliza STEAD, daur., unm., 26, worsted weaver, b. Yorks., Bradford; >> Annie STEAD, granddaur., (sic), unm., 18, worsted spinner, b. Yorks., >> Bradford; [granddaughter = illegitimate?]] >> Tamar STEAD, granddaur., (sic), unm., 16, worsted spinner, b. Yorks., >> Bradford; [granddaughter = illegitimate?] >> Emeline STEAD, granddaur., (sic) unm., 7, scholar, b. Yorks., Bradford. >> [granddaughter = illegitimate?] >> >> 1881 census; >> Nancy STEAD, Head, W, Female, 65, Bradford, York, England; >> Emeline STEAD, Grand Daur., U, Female, 17, Bradford, York, England, >> Worsted >> Weaver; >> Source Information: >> Dwelling 98 Wakefield Road >> Census Place Bowling, York, England >> Family History Library Film, 342061 >> Public Records Office Reference, RG11 >> Piece / Folio, 4437 / 35 >> Page Number 24 >> >> 1891 census; >> [taken from original image] >> Nancy STEAD, head, widow, 71, b. Yorks., Birkenshaw; >> Emelene (sic) EMMOTT, daur., (sic) mar., 26, worsted weaver, b. Yorks., >> Bradford; >> Robert EMMOTT, grandson, (sic) single, 3, disabled - blind?, b. Yorks., >> Bradford. >> [Maybe the "grandaughters" shown in 1871 really were daughters? or is >> Robert >> really a great grandson?] >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Barry Emmott" <[email protected]> >> To: "ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L Rootsweb" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:56 AM >> Subject: [ENG-YKS-BRADFORD] Searching for a road in old Shipley >> >> >>> My mother and her friends lived in Regent Street and New York in Shipley >>> around 1915 but I can't find any trace of these locations in current >>> streetmaps. I have an old Alan Godfrey map but just can't lay my hands >>> on >>> it >>> right now !!! >>> If anybody can tell me where these locations were, preferably with a >>> map, >>> I'd be grateful. >>> Regards, >>> Barry Emmott >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.5/451 - Release Date: >>> 19/09/2006 >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ______________________________________________ >> This email has been scanned by Netintelligence >> http://www.netintelligence.com/email >> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/457 - Release Date: >> 26/09/2006 >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/458 - Release Date: 27/09/2006 > >