Hello Barry, Here may be some possibilities - perhaps they didn't use their middle names. >From Lancs BMD, Marriages 1862 GREENWOOD John BUTTERWORTH Mary Middleton, St Leonard (Registers at) Rochdale Reference CE20/7/292 -- this is the only result for GREENWOOD J and BUTTERWORTH M 1851 to 1875 that has the forenames John and Mary FreeBMD also has a listing, 1862 1st Quarter Oldham 8d 678 Greenwood, John; Butterworth, Mary (although from this you can't tell if this was in fact a couple) HTH, Katrina On 23/10/06, Barry Emmott <[email protected]> wrote: > For a long time now (nearly 2 years) I've been using every facility I can > think of to trace my maternal grandfather, John Greenwood. According to such > records and family hearsay that I've been able to harvest he was born around > Todmorden on May 8th 1875. > The first proof I have of his existence is his marriage certificate in 1898 > when he was in barracks at Aberdeen with the Gordon Highlanders. > On his certificate he gives his age as 23 and his father's name is John > Samuel Greenwood and his mother as Mary Jane Greenwood M.S. (nee) > Butterfield, deceased.