Hi List, First let me apologize for what you all had to read on the list, if I would have had Roys e-mail address believe me I would have answered him off line. To Roy, I value guidance from people like yourself who are obviously very experienced when searching for their ancestors and maybe its a full time project for you I don't know, I just know that I spend very little time on the subject and rely on peoples good nature to help me anyway possible, if I can get from A to B faster then all well and good, and if I can help people also I feel very good about myself if I do, this maybe is not the way you preach that it should be done but it is my way. You should also accept other peoples ways in which to acheive their goals which may be different from yours, having said that I have already told you that you needn't reply to any requests I may have for help from the list in the future, this should prevent any further rhetoric between our two selves. And lastly I would like to thank the list members who aired their views regarding this subject. Regards Harry

Hello Harry, I too had problems with Mr. Stockdill and as a result left the list, this was 2 years ago and it is not the first time he has had a go at people, so you are not alone. Good luck with your research Shirley

Perhaps I could just make it abslutely clear what I am prepared to help listers with? 1) General and more specific advice on how to research your family tree, find ancestors, check out the accuracy of the information, find sources, locate record offices, where parish registers for the whole of Yorkshire are held, etc - in other words, specialist advice that is not easily obtainable elsewhere. To this end I possess, for instance, reference books that list the whereabouts of registers and bishop's transcripts for every parish in Yorkshire, sources I wouldn't expect too many to have. 2) With regard to this list and Bradford, specifically, I was born in Bradford, have considerable knowledge of the city and possess a number of books and old maps concerning the city not easily accessible to others. I am always happy to do "look-ups" (personally I dislike that phrase as being somewhat juvenile but nobody seems to have yet thought of a better one) in these books, which also contain many photos of old Bradford. I can often find streets and places that no longer exist, for instance, and have a good working knowledge of the city's history and records. 3) I possess a complete set of the censuses on the S & N CDs for the whole of Yorkshire from 1841-1901 (with the exception of the 1881 which they haven't done) and a complete transcription (NOT an index) of the 1851 census for Bradford on CD (available from the Bradford FHS). I am willing to help with searching these in cases where someone can demonstrate that they have made serious efforts to help themselves and do their own homework first and failed to find something. What I am not prepared to do - and I have always been utterly consistent in my view on this - is look-ups in resources that are easily available on the Internet and that requesters to "SKS" could easily do for themselves but won't, possibly because they don't wish to incur the expense. I will happily tell them HOW to do it in the hope they may learn something, but in my view spoonfeeding newcomers with look-ups doesn't, in the long term, actually help them to learn how to research. Sorry, but those are my views and I won't be changing them. Anyone who wants to pick my brains with regard to specific advice about a particular problem, or discover some information that isn't easily available elsewhere, is warmly welcomed. I really don't think I can be fairer than that! -- Roy Stockdill Guild of One-Name Studies: www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE