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    1. Re: [ENG-YKS-BRADFORD] SMITH - Bowling
    2. Wendy Lewis
    3. Hi Denise Many thanks indeed for taking the time to look up the occupants of 56 Hall Lane, Bowling in 1881. Once again, I can see no family connection with either Edward or Ruth, but it was something I needed to know. They are a different family to the occupants in 1891. Isn't it strange how families seemed to move around so much? Very few of my families remained in the same house from Census to Census, although I appreciate that streets were often re-numbered or even re-named. How did you manage to trace this entry from just the address, Denise? As I said in my original posting, I spent a lot of time going through the descriptions of each enumeration district and ploughing through the different pages from there. There must be a quicker way. Putting in the address on the search page didn't seem to work..... Or at least, it didn't last night. I have just tried it again now and bingo! there is the Parker family. Would you believe it! But I think the 1881 Census is the only one to have the Street Address option on the search page, so how do you search on the other Censuses when you only know the address? It would still be interesting to know who was actually living at these two addresses in 1887. Are there any electoral registers or trade directories covering this period, do you know, which might help? And, if so, where can they be viewed? Also which are the local Bowling churches, in case Thomas was christened there if his parents stayed in the area for some time? Can they be accessed on-line or are they available only in the Archives? Sorry to ask so many questions again, but any help at all over this matter will be most gratefully received. And many thanks for your help already. Wendy At 23:10 30/09/2006, you wrote: >The Parker Family were living at 56 Hall Lane, Bowling in 1881. > > William Parker 34 > Mary Parker 34 > Edwin Parker 6 > Emma Parker 5mo > > Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4436; Folio: 85; Page: 11; > Line: ; GSU roll: 1342060. > > Hope this helps, > > Denise V > > >Wendy Lewis <[email protected]> wrote: > I am a new subscriber to this list, but wonder whether any kind person >might be able to throw any light on a query I have encountered please? > >I have eventually, after a lot of searching as you can imagine, found the >correct birth certificate for Thomas SMITH, the son of Edward SMITH and >Ruth SMITH (nee RICKETTS). He was born on 12 February 1887 at 51 Moody >Street, Bowling and yet his father, Edward SMITH, the informant, gives his >address as 56 Hall Lane, Bowling on the certificate. > >The query is that Ruth RICKETTS, who was my great-grandmother's sister, >spent all her life in the Wolverhampton area and all her other children >were born there. She was back in Wolverhampton at the time of the 1891 >Census. So why was Thomas born in Bradford? > >Maybe they were staying with a friend or relation when she gave birth >unexpectedly..? I have found out who was living at 51 Moody Street at the >time of both the 1881 and 1891 Census, but I can see no connection with the >two different families who were living there. I have also found out who >was living at 56 Hall Lane at the time of the 1891 Census - again no >connection - but have not yet located this address on the 1881 Census. Is >there a quick way to check Census addresses when you don't know the >occupants' name, other than going through all the enumeration districts? > >What I wondered was, does anyone have access to any electoral registers or >trade directories for 1887 and would be able to check who was living at >these two addresses in 1887 please? > >My other request is to ask how I can access the parish registers for >Bowling, in case Thomas was baptised in the area, as I can find no record >of him having been baptised in Wolverhampton. > >Any help or suggestions will be most gratefully received. I am asking not >only on my own behalf but also on behalf of an American cousin who is a >direct descendant of Thomas and is anxious to find out all he can about him. > >Many thanks to anyone kind enough to take the time to help me over this >puzzle. > >Wendy Lewis > >

    10/01/2006 04:37:33
    1. Re: [ENG-YKS-BRADFORD] SMITH - Bowling
    2. Robert Welbourn
    3. One technique for searching for an address is if you know who was living nearby in previous or subsequent censuses -- search for the neighbours. Rob > Hi Denise > > Many thanks indeed for taking the time to look up the occupants of 56 Hall > Lane, Bowling in 1881. Once again, I can see no family connection with > either Edward or Ruth, but it was something I needed to know. They are a > different family to the occupants in 1891. Isn't it strange how families > seemed to move around so much? Very few of my families remained in the > same house from Census to Census, although I appreciate that streets were > often re-numbered or even re-named. > > How did you manage to trace this entry from just the address, Denise? As I > said in my original posting, I spent a lot of time going through the > descriptions of each enumeration district and ploughing through the > different pages from there. There must be a quicker way. Putting in the > address on the search page didn't seem to work..... Or at least, it didn't > last night. I have just tried it again now and bingo! there is the Parker > family. Would you believe it! > > But I think the 1881 Census is the only one to have the Street Address > option on the search page, so how do you search on the other Censuses when > you only know the address? > > It would still be interesting to know who was actually living at these two > addresses in 1887. Are there any electoral registers or trade directories > covering this period, do you know, which might help? And, if so, where can > they be viewed? Also which are the local Bowling churches, in case Thomas > was christened there if his parents stayed in the area for some time? Can > they be accessed on-line or are they available only in the Archives? > > Sorry to ask so many questions again, but any help at all over this matter > will be most gratefully received. And many thanks for your help already. > > Wendy > > > At 23:10 30/09/2006, you wrote: > >> The Parker Family were living at 56 Hall Lane, Bowling in 1881. >> >> William Parker 34 >> Mary Parker 34 >> Edwin Parker 6 >> Emma Parker 5mo >> >> Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4436; Folio: 85; Page: 11; >> Line: ; GSU roll: 1342060. >> >> Hope this helps, >> >> Denise V >> >> >> Wendy Lewis <[email protected]> wrote: >> I am a new subscriber to this list, but wonder whether any kind person >> might be able to throw any light on a query I have encountered please? >> >> I have eventually, after a lot of searching as you can imagine, found the >> correct birth certificate for Thomas SMITH, the son of Edward SMITH and >> Ruth SMITH (nee RICKETTS). He was born on 12 February 1887 at 51 Moody >> Street, Bowling and yet his father, Edward SMITH, the informant, gives his >> address as 56 Hall Lane, Bowling on the certificate. >> >> The query is that Ruth RICKETTS, who was my great-grandmother's sister, >> spent all her life in the Wolverhampton area and all her other children >> were born there. She was back in Wolverhampton at the time of the 1891 >> Census. So why was Thomas born in Bradford? >> >> Maybe they were staying with a friend or relation when she gave birth >> unexpectedly..? I have found out who was living at 51 Moody Street at the >> time of both the 1881 and 1891 Census, but I can see no connection with the >> two different families who were living there. I have also found out who >> was living at 56 Hall Lane at the time of the 1891 Census - again no >> connection - but have not yet located this address on the 1881 Census. Is >> there a quick way to check Census addresses when you don't know the >> occupants' name, other than going through all the enumeration districts? >> >> What I wondered was, does anyone have access to any electoral registers or >> trade directories for 1887 and would be able to check who was living at >> these two addresses in 1887 please? >> >> My other request is to ask how I can access the parish registers for >> Bowling, in case Thomas was baptised in the area, as I can find no record >> of him having been baptised in Wolverhampton. >> >> Any help or suggestions will be most gratefully received. I am asking not >> only on my own behalf but also on behalf of an American cousin who is a >> direct descendant of Thomas and is anxious to find out all he can about him. >> >> Many thanks to anyone kind enough to take the time to help me over this >> puzzle. >> >> Wendy Lewis >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

    10/01/2006 05:16:28
    1. Re: [ENG-YKS-BRADFORD] SMITH - Bowling
    2. Wendy Lewis
    3. A good tip, Rob. Many thanks. At 16:16 01/10/2006, you wrote: >One technique for searching for an address is if you know who was living >nearby in previous or subsequent censuses -- search for the neighbours. > >Rob

    10/01/2006 01:00:07