Just a couple of ideas Chris. Maybe his children from his first marriage were running the business for him, so relied on what he was able to leave them. Perhaps his wife was independently wealthy. Do you know anything about her background and family? If he and his second wife were 'not getting on" you could perhaps find that out from how quickly she remarried, or from whether or not she reported his death. These unexpected facts make genealogy so interesting. I have an ancestor who suddenly remarried, age 80, a woman almost his age with an unmarried daughter. I presume this daughter looked after them both, but I have often wondered whether his daughter, who had looked after him since her mother's death, felt relieved or slighted! Regards Margaret On 14 Apr 2008, at 13:39, Christopher Gleave wrote: Hi I have David GLEAVE's birth, marriage (both), death certificates and will, I also have him in the relevant census returns. I am looking for any information as to why his second wife and her children were left out of his will, also anything about his time in Bradford. Chris GLEAVE Amature Genealogist and hard working Taxi driver > From: roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: eng-yks- > bradford@rootsweb.com> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:54:49 +0100> > Subject: Re: [YKS-BRADFORD] New to list - GLEAVE> > From: "Roy > Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com>> > > From: Christopher > Gleave <chrisgleave@hotmail.co.uk>> > > > > I am looking for any > GLEAVE's in the Bradford area. In particular> > > I'm after any > information on David GLEAVE born 2 Apr 1851 in> > > Ashton-under- > Lyne and died at 29 Little Lane, Bradford on 12 Jan> > > 1907.>> > > > > Presumably you have acquired his birth certificate, since you > appear> > to know his precise birthdate? If not, why not? It will > give you the> > names of both parents to start with and you can > trace them back from> > there, first finding their marriage which > will give you the names of> > both fathers (i.e. David Gleave's > grandfathers).> > > > Then find David Gleave in the 1861 and > subsequent censuses. This> > should confirm you have the right man, > since the parents' names should> ! > be the same as those on his birth certificate. The census entries > will> > also give you any siblings. The censuses are online at > several> > websites but you will need to take out a subscription or > buy> > pay-per-view units.> > > > Look for a marriage for him at > FreeBMD, remembering to check under> > different variants of the > surname, i.e. GREAVE. There is a possible> > marriage at Bradford > in the March qtr of 1895, vol 9b page 78. There> > are, of course, > other names on the page and you need to look at the> > 1901 census > to find out which female he married (if, indeed, this is> > him).>> > > There is also a potential marriage at Chorley, Lancs, in the Dec > qtr of > 1872, vol 8c, page 787. This was probably him because in > the 1881 > census (free at Ancestry and Findmypast) he was aged 30, > born at > Ashton-Under-Lyne, and a jewellery dealer in Manchester. > He had two > small daughters, aged 5 and 1, and was widowed. He > also had a sister > and two nieces living with him.> > Free! BMD has a number of Gleave marriages at Ashton-Under-Lyne but > the mo st likely for his father looks to be a John Gleave married in the Mar > qtr of 1848, vol 20 page 1. There are 4 female names on the page, so > you will have to find them in 1851 and 1861 to see who John married. > There is also a Henry Gleave married at Ashton-Under-Lyne in the Dec > qtr of 1852 and of course it's always possible David's parents weren't > married until after he was born. > > You should also look at the Digital Library of Historical Directories at > www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/, since if he was a jeweller you should be > able to find an entry for him in Manchester - and perhaps later in > Bradford.> > See how much you can learn from free online sources? It's simply a > matter of knowing where to look and I trust I have pointed you in some > directions. I am afraid that, as a matter of policy, I do not do look-ups > from websites which require a subscription, so I will have to leave it to > you to take it from here. > > --> Roy Stockdill> Professional gen! ealogical researcher, writer & lecturer> Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: > www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html> > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about."> OSCAR WILDE> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile. 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