Can sks provide me with an address for a hospital/nursing home called Westbourne Green? Gavin Yates, in Christchurch New Zealand (but a Firth of Bingley/Bradford at heart!!)

Gavin, can't help with the westbourne Green but just today I have got a copy of a marriage certificate of the second marriage of my great grandfather and he married and Agnes Firth details are 3rd Janaury 1910 at St Stephen's Church West Bowling. Samuel Stocks 46 widower of 121 Newton Street s.o. John Stocks, & Agnes Firth 48, widow, of 423 Bowling Old Lane d.o. James Hill deceased. I know nothing about her, except that she came with a son called Charlie Firth, who was a witness on my grandfather's wedding certificate. Marion M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gavin Yates" <gavinyates@xtra.co.nz> To: <eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:49 PM Subject: [YKS-BRADFORD] Westbourne Green > Can sks provide me with an address for a hospital/nursing home called > Westbourne Green? > > Gavin Yates, in Christchurch New Zealand (but a Firth of Bingley/Bradford > at heart!!) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Gavin If you put Westbourne Green, Bradford into Google you will find it there. A care centre and a community hospital. Always GOOGLE first. Kind regards Judith K ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gavin Yates" <gavinyates@xtra.co.nz> To: <eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:49 PM Subject: [YKS-BRADFORD] Westbourne Green > Can sks provide me with an address for a hospital/nursing home called > Westbourne Green? > > Gavin Yates, in Christchurch New Zealand (but a Firth of Bingley/Bradford > at heart!!) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have been working on a study of the Metcalfe [any spelling] surname in Bradford, Yks between 1841 & 1901. To date, I have approx. 4400 individuals in the GEDCOM file. At present I have only isolated about 50% of the 750 plus marriages in the partial index. The difficulty in allocating the marriages is mainly with the females. If you have a transcription of a marriage, birth or death which took place in Bradford for the Metcalfe name, I would like to have a copy of the transcription. It would help to verify the linkages made, etc. I would like to hear from anyone with Bradford connections. Susanne

----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Kettlewell" <judith.kettlewell@btinternet.com> To: <eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [YKS-BRADFORD] Death Certificate info Hi Judith, yes but do not know when I will be going. Janet > Many thanks Janet. Is this the index in the Central Library? > > Judith > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janet Ogden" <janet@janetsfamilies.f2s.com> > To: <eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 1:06 AM > Subject: Re: [YKS-BRADFORD] Death Certificate info > > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Judith Kettlewell" <judith.kettlewell@btinternet.com> >> To: <eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 10:53 PM >> Subject: [YKS-BRADFORD] Death Certificate info >> >> Hi Judith, >> it may be reported in Bfd Telegraph & Argus to which there >> is >> an Index, Janet >> >> >>> Dear Listers >>> >>> I have, today, received the Death Certificate of my gt grandmother's >>> sister, >>> Alice GRIX. >>> >>> She died in 1934 at St Luke's and a Post Mortem was carried out. >>> >>> In the number 7 column it says 'G. WALLING, Causing the body to be >>> buried' >>> 515 Manchester Road, Bradford. >>> >>> I had hoped to find a family member!! >>> >>> Now, this G WALLING, would he be the funeral director or the coroner's >>> officer or who? I am taking it that he is not the coroner as the DC's I >>> have >>> where the coroner was the informant have always noted this fact. >>> >>> I would be most grateful for any help on this. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Judith K >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.2/1142 - Release Date: >>> 20/11/2007 17:44 >>> >>> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >> It has removed 63354 spam emails to date. >> Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >> Try SPAMfighter for free now! >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.2/1142 - Release Date: > 20/11/2007 17:44 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 63371 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now!

Hi Judith, As well as looking for a picture of Otley Rd Chapel I was also looking for articles re the death of my great grandfather who was knocked down by a car on Tollers Lane in Bradford in 1932. As you recommended I asked the local studies department if they could find articles re both the chapel and the accident and they found articles on each and the notification of death in the Bradford Argos. The only thing they couldn't find was an account of what happened in the coroners court - there were reports from the coroners court but they couldn't find my great grandfather. I was amazed all it cost was £1.35p. So maybe you would get what you need through them. Liz

Many thanks Janet. Is this the index in the Central Library? Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Ogden" <janet@janetsfamilies.f2s.com> To: <eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 1:06 AM Subject: Re: [YKS-BRADFORD] Death Certificate info > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judith Kettlewell" <judith.kettlewell@btinternet.com> > To: <eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 10:53 PM > Subject: [YKS-BRADFORD] Death Certificate info > > Hi Judith, > it may be reported in Bfd Telegraph & Argus to which there is > an Index, Janet > > >> Dear Listers >> >> I have, today, received the Death Certificate of my gt grandmother's >> sister, >> Alice GRIX. >> >> She died in 1934 at St Luke's and a Post Mortem was carried out. >> >> In the number 7 column it says 'G. WALLING, Causing the body to be >> buried' >> 515 Manchester Road, Bradford. >> >> I had hoped to find a family member!! >> >> Now, this G WALLING, would he be the funeral director or the coroner's >> officer or who? I am taking it that he is not the coroner as the DC's I >> have >> where the coroner was the informant have always noted this fact. >> >> I would be most grateful for any help on this. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Judith K >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.2/1142 - Release Date: >> 20/11/2007 17:44 >> >> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 63354 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Try SPAMfighter for free now! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Kettlewell" <judith.kettlewell@btinternet.com> To: <eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 10:53 PM Subject: [YKS-BRADFORD] Death Certificate info Hi Judith, it may be reported in Bfd Telegraph & Argus to which there is an Index, Janet > Dear Listers > > I have, today, received the Death Certificate of my gt grandmother's > sister, > Alice GRIX. > > She died in 1934 at St Luke's and a Post Mortem was carried out. > > In the number 7 column it says 'G. WALLING, Causing the body to be buried' > 515 Manchester Road, Bradford. > > I had hoped to find a family member!! > > Now, this G WALLING, would he be the funeral director or the coroner's > officer or who? I am taking it that he is not the coroner as the DC's I > have > where the coroner was the informant have always noted this fact. > > I would be most grateful for any help on this. > > Thank you. > > Judith K > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.2/1142 - Release Date: > 20/11/2007 17:44 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 63354 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now!

Many thanks for that Michael, now why didn't I think of it. I too have had much help from Bradford Library but never thought to contact them for this information. Thank you. Kind regards Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: <michael@allbrook.com> To: <eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:06 PM Subject: Re: [YKS-BRADFORD] Death Certificate info >I have just had a similar problem. I found that the local library were >very > helpful in finding the inquest report in the local paper and that provided > all the information that I could have hoped for > > Here is the Bradford information for you if you do not already have it: > > Bradford Central Library, > Princes Way, > BRADFORD, > BD1 1NN. > t 01274 435099 > e bradford@wyjs.org.uk > www.archives@wyjs.org.uk > > Michael Allbrook > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-yks-bradford-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-yks-bradford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Judith > Kettlewell > Sent: 21 November 2007 22:54 > To: eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com > Subject: [YKS-BRADFORD] Death Certificate info > > Dear Listers > > I have, today, received the Death Certificate of my gt grandmother's > sister, > > Alice GRIX. > > She died in 1934 at St Luke's and a Post Mortem was carried out. > > In the number 7 column it says 'G. WALLING, Causing the body to be buried' > 515 Manchester Road, Bradford. > > I had hoped to find a family member!! > > Now, this G WALLING, would he be the funeral director or the coroner's > officer or who? I am taking it that he is not the coroner as the DC's I > have > > where the coroner was the informant have always noted this fact. > > I would be most grateful for any help on this. > > Thank you. > > Judith K > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.2/1142 - Release Date: > 20/11/2007 > 17:44 > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.2/1142 - Release Date: > 20/11/2007 > 17:44 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have just had a similar problem. I found that the local library were very helpful in finding the inquest report in the local paper and that provided all the information that I could have hoped for Here is the Bradford information for you if you do not already have it: Bradford Central Library, Princes Way, BRADFORD, BD1 1NN. t 01274 435099 e bradford@wyjs.org.uk www.archives@wyjs.org.uk Michael Allbrook -----Original Message----- From: eng-yks-bradford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-yks-bradford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Judith Kettlewell Sent: 21 November 2007 22:54 To: eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com Subject: [YKS-BRADFORD] Death Certificate info Dear Listers I have, today, received the Death Certificate of my gt grandmother's sister, Alice GRIX. She died in 1934 at St Luke's and a Post Mortem was carried out. In the number 7 column it says 'G. WALLING, Causing the body to be buried' 515 Manchester Road, Bradford. I had hoped to find a family member!! Now, this G WALLING, would he be the funeral director or the coroner's officer or who? I am taking it that he is not the coroner as the DC's I have where the coroner was the informant have always noted this fact. I would be most grateful for any help on this. Thank you. Judith K ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.2/1142 - Release Date: 20/11/2007 17:44 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.2/1142 - Release Date: 20/11/2007 17:44

Dear Listers I have, today, received the Death Certificate of my gt grandmother's sister, Alice GRIX. She died in 1934 at St Luke's and a Post Mortem was carried out. In the number 7 column it says 'G. WALLING, Causing the body to be buried' 515 Manchester Road, Bradford. I had hoped to find a family member!! Now, this G WALLING, would he be the funeral director or the coroner's officer or who? I am taking it that he is not the coroner as the DC's I have where the coroner was the informant have always noted this fact. I would be most grateful for any help on this. Thank you. Judith K

I have looked to see if this site is mentioned in recent archives and apologise if you all already know about it. It is a free site I recently found while browsing and another source of family trees. http://www.gencircles.com/ Liz

Hello Jan in Bronte Country and Geoff in Sevilla Jan - The Keighley forum sounds like a good idea - thank you. I will send you scans of the photos off-list - I'm still getting used to a new scanner with less than 100% success so far with photographs. The Sunderland family was in Bingley from all accounts that I know of - up to the 1960s when we lost track of them on the death of my grandmother here in Canada. She corresponded regularly with Annie and Ruth. James Sunderland and Frances Core married in Calverly and I believe various family members married and/or lived in nearby communities. My Yorkshire geography is sadly lacking I'm afraid. Geoff - Sadly I know nothing of Ann Stansfield other than what I put in the email. I have just found the probable marriage of Joseph Sunderland and Ann Stansfield registered in 1849 in the FreeBMD index and will order a copy of the marriage certificate. Once that arrives perhaps we may find a connection. I have a few other family mysteries involving the Core and Holdsworth families, and a mysterious Harry Raistrick from Bradford who married Frances Core Sunderland (widow) shortly after her arrival in Canada. He then seemed to just disappear - no divorce, no death certificate, no presence in the Ottawa city directory. But up to this point I have not verified enough information to provide anyone else with a basis for further searching or connecting with their own families. Frances later married (no certificate found yet) Alfred Burwell Crawford, born in Canada but of English parents - from an unknown location. Thank you for your interest. I'll continue to watch the list and will add any new information I can find. Ann in Ottawa ===================== From: "Jan Perkins" <janperkins@blueyonder.co.uk> Hi Ann Wonder if it is any use me trying the Keighley History forum for you...................................certainly Gilstead Lane, sounds like a Bingley address. Send me the pictures and I will add them to our Forum with a copy of your e-mail.....after all more fingers in the pie and all that. ========================== Jan in Bronte Country Webmaster & archivist for Keighley Local History Society keighleyhistory.org.uk From: Geoff Watson <geoffwatsone@hotmail.com> Ann An interesting email - and your STANSFIELD connection caught my eye...... A certain George STANSFIELD married one of my wife's indirect ancestors, Mary HOWKER, on 30 August 1792 in Haworth, which is within a few miles of Bingley, which in turn contains an area known as Gilstead, and Halifax (see later) is a few miles in the other direction......

Ann An interesting email - and your STANSFIELD connection caught my eye...... A certain George STANSFIELD married one of my wife's indirect ancestors, Mary HOWKER, on 30 August 1792 in Haworth, which is within a few miles of Bingley, which in turn contains an area known as Gilstead, and Halifax (see later) is a few miles in the other direction...... Mary already had an illegitimmate son Robert born in c1788, and then George and Mary had four more known children - Sally / Sarah (b1793), Joseph (b1796), Nelly (b1798) and Susannah (b1800). We have done a bit of research on Sally / Sarah, who married a William RATCLIFFE and they had thirteen known children, but we have not traced any of the other three beyond their baptisms, which were all in Haworth - although to be honest we have not tried too hard because the family was increasingly indirect to our main interests. Perhaps one of these three was a parent of Ann Stansfield? I note your comment that she was born in Coldedge, Yorkshire but can't find this place on either Genuki or Multimap, although Google shows links to Luddenden, near Halifax, so perhaps not too far away...... If you have any info on the parents of your Ann Stansfield, perhaps it might be worthwhile us jointly researching a bit further? Look forward to your reply Geoff in Sevilla > Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:07:17 -0800> From: ann.burns@rogers.com> To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD@rootsweb.com> Subject: [YKS-BRADFORD] seeking living descendants of Joseph Sunderland and Ann Stansfield> > Hello> > I am in Ottawa ON Canada and planning a trip to England next Spring. If at all possible I would like to contact any living descendants of my gg grandparents: Joseph and Ann (Stansfield) Sunderland. Most of the family worked in the textile industry in the 19th century - not exactly a unique occupation.> > Joseph Sunderland was born about 1828 in Halifax, Yorkshire and died in Sept 1904 in Bradford. I believe his mother's name was Rachel but have no proof at this time. Ann Stansfield was born in 1828 in Coldedge, Yorkshire and died sometime between 1861 and 1868, probably in Bradford as the family continued to live there. Joseph married Faith Robertshaw in 1869 but they had no children. > The children of Joseph and Ann were: Thomas b. 1850 in Halifax; the remaining children were born in Bradford: Rachel b. 1853; James b. 1855; John b. 1858, Stansfield b. 1859; and William b. 1864. In 1901 Joseph and Faith lived at 37 Mildred St.> > James is my great-grandfather. He married Frances Core (parents Wm Core and Ann/Nanny Holdsworth) in 1878 and I have that Sunderland line complete to the present day - all in Canada and the US. James died in 1888 and Frances emigrated to Ottawa, ON Canada with the children in 1889. Tracing the family of Frances Core in Yorkshire is a matter for another day. > > John married Clara Sykes in 1881 and they had six children that I know of: William, Harold, Ann, Edith, Ruth, and John Jr. Ann and Ruth never married. Edith married ? Whitwham; Harold died in 1909. It is particularly the families of John Jr. and William that I may have the best luck in trying to trace. Ann, Ruth and Edith were living in Bingley until at least the 1960s but we lost track of them when my grandmother died in 1969. They have all passed away but I'm not certain when. In 1901 the family lived at Filter Beds House (???) in Bradford - the next address on the census page is Gilstead lane. After Clara's death, John married Hannah Town in 1906. I have a photo of the girls in 1917 and one of the family taken a few years later. > > Stansfield married Mary Ann Mowbray in June 1882 in Bradford. They had four children: Mary E b. 1883; Lucy b. 1885; Stansfield b. 1889 d. 1893; and Joseph b. 1891. To date I have not confirmed any information later than the 1901 census for this family. In 1901 they lived at 37 Wingfield Mount.> > William may have married Mary Barber (still uncertain this is the right William) - and they had children Joseph b. 1887, and John and Grace both b. 1890. However, I'm still unable to absolutely connect them as I have not seen the marriage certificate to verify that this is the right couple. They lived on Maperton (?) road in 1901.> > There was a Rachel Sunderland who married Thomas Davison Cummins in 1876 - and the ages fit in census of 1891 - but no other reason to simply accept this as the correct Rachel and family. > > All whose names I know would have certainly died by now so I don't know what names to even look for today. I have access to ancestry.com but all roads lead to confusion past 1901. In fact, there may be nobody left in Yorkshire but I have no information to suggest where else to look from where I sit here in Canada. I don't know the churches they would have attended - I believe they were Baptists but not regualr church goers according to family lore. The IGI has not provided anything more definitive.> > I would appreciate any suggestions as to where I should search from here. I'm quite willing to purchase certificates from the GRO if I can be reasonably certain it's the right family but at 7 GBP each it's a bit expensive to stab in the dark. > > Thank you.> > Ann Burns> Ottawa ON Canada> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ann Wonder if it is any use me trying the Keighley History forum for you...................................certainly Gilstead Lane, sounds like a Bingley address. Send me the pictures and I will add them to our Forum with a copy of your e-mail.....after all more fingers in the pie and all that. Jan in Bronte Country Webmaster & archivist for Keighley Local History Society keighleyhistory.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: eng-yks-bradford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-yks-bradford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ann Burns Sent: 19 November 2007 20:07 To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD@rootsweb.com Subject: [YKS-BRADFORD] seeking living descendants of Joseph Sunderland and Ann Stansfield Hello I am in Ottawa ON Canada and planning a trip to England next Spring. If at all possible I would like to contact any living descendants of my gg grandparents: Joseph and Ann (Stansfield) Sunderland. Most of the family worked in the textile industry in the 19th century - not exactly a unique occupation. Joseph Sunderland was born about 1828 in Halifax, Yorkshire and died in Sept 1904 in Bradford. I believe his mother's name was Rachel but have no proof at this time. Ann Stansfield was born in 1828 in Coldedge, Yorkshire and died sometime between 1861 and 1868, probably in Bradford as the family continued to live there. Joseph married Faith Robertshaw in 1869 but they had no children. The children of Joseph and Ann were: Thomas b. 1850 in Halifax; the remaining children were born in Bradford: Rachel b. 1853; James b. 1855; John b. 1858, Stansfield b. 1859; and William b. 1864. In 1901 Joseph and Faith lived at 37 Mildred St. James is my great-grandfather. He married Frances Core (parents Wm Core and Ann/Nanny Holdsworth) in 1878 and I have that Sunderland line complete to the present day - all in Canada and the US. James died in 1888 and Frances emigrated to Ottawa, ON Canada with the children in 1889. Tracing the family of Frances Core in Yorkshire is a matter for another day. John married Clara Sykes in 1881 and they had six children that I know of: William, Harold, Ann, Edith, Ruth, and John Jr. Ann and Ruth never married. Edith married ? Whitwham; Harold died in 1909. It is particularly the families of John Jr. and William that I may have the best luck in trying to trace. Ann, Ruth and Edith were living in Bingley until at least the 1960s but we lost track of them when my grandmother died in 1969. They have all passed away but I'm not certain when. In 1901 the family lived at Filter Beds House (???) in Bradford - the next address on the census page is Gilstead lane. After Clara's death, John married Hannah Town in 1906. I have a photo of the girls in 1917 and one of the family taken a few years later. Stansfield married Mary Ann Mowbray in June 1882 in Bradford. They had four children: Mary E b. 1883; Lucy b. 1885; Stansfield b. 1889 d. 1893; and Joseph b. 1891. To date I have not confirmed any information later than the 1901 census for this family. In 1901 they lived at 37 Wingfield Mount. William may have married Mary Barber (still uncertain this is the right William) - and they had children Joseph b. 1887, and John and Grace both b. 1890. However, I'm still unable to absolutely connect them as I have not seen the marriage certificate to verify that this is the right couple. They lived on Maperton (?) road in 1901. There was a Rachel Sunderland who married Thomas Davison Cummins in 1876 - and the ages fit in census of 1891 - but no other reason to simply accept this as the correct Rachel and family. All whose names I know would have certainly died by now so I don't know what names to even look for today. I have access to ancestry.com but all roads lead to confusion past 1901. In fact, there may be nobody left in Yorkshire but I have no information to suggest where else to look from where I sit here in Canada. I don't know the churches they would have attended - I believe they were Baptists but not regualr church goers according to family lore. The IGI has not provided anything more definitive. I would appreciate any suggestions as to where I should search from here. I'm quite willing to purchase certificates from the GRO if I can be reasonably certain it's the right family but at 7 GBP each it's a bit expensive to stab in the dark. Thank you. Ann Burns Ottawa ON Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1139 - Release Date: 19/11/2007 12:35

Hello I am in Ottawa ON Canada and planning a trip to England next Spring. If at all possible I would like to contact any living descendants of my gg grandparents: Joseph and Ann (Stansfield) Sunderland. Most of the family worked in the textile industry in the 19th century - not exactly a unique occupation. Joseph Sunderland was born about 1828 in Halifax, Yorkshire and died in Sept 1904 in Bradford. I believe his mother's name was Rachel but have no proof at this time. Ann Stansfield was born in 1828 in Coldedge, Yorkshire and died sometime between 1861 and 1868, probably in Bradford as the family continued to live there. Joseph married Faith Robertshaw in 1869 but they had no children. The children of Joseph and Ann were: Thomas b. 1850 in Halifax; the remaining children were born in Bradford: Rachel b. 1853; James b. 1855; John b. 1858, Stansfield b. 1859; and William b. 1864. In 1901 Joseph and Faith lived at 37 Mildred St. James is my great-grandfather. He married Frances Core (parents Wm Core and Ann/Nanny Holdsworth) in 1878 and I have that Sunderland line complete to the present day - all in Canada and the US. James died in 1888 and Frances emigrated to Ottawa, ON Canada with the children in 1889. Tracing the family of Frances Core in Yorkshire is a matter for another day. John married Clara Sykes in 1881 and they had six children that I know of: William, Harold, Ann, Edith, Ruth, and John Jr. Ann and Ruth never married. Edith married ? Whitwham; Harold died in 1909. It is particularly the families of John Jr. and William that I may have the best luck in trying to trace. Ann, Ruth and Edith were living in Bingley until at least the 1960s but we lost track of them when my grandmother died in 1969. They have all passed away but I'm not certain when. In 1901 the family lived at Filter Beds House (???) in Bradford - the next address on the census page is Gilstead lane. After Clara's death, John married Hannah Town in 1906. I have a photo of the girls in 1917 and one of the family taken a few years later. Stansfield married Mary Ann Mowbray in June 1882 in Bradford. They had four children: Mary E b. 1883; Lucy b. 1885; Stansfield b. 1889 d. 1893; and Joseph b. 1891. To date I have not confirmed any information later than the 1901 census for this family. In 1901 they lived at 37 Wingfield Mount. William may have married Mary Barber (still uncertain this is the right William) - and they had children Joseph b. 1887, and John and Grace both b. 1890. However, I'm still unable to absolutely connect them as I have not seen the marriage certificate to verify that this is the right couple. They lived on Maperton (?) road in 1901. There was a Rachel Sunderland who married Thomas Davison Cummins in 1876 - and the ages fit in census of 1891 - but no other reason to simply accept this as the correct Rachel and family. All whose names I know would have certainly died by now so I don't know what names to even look for today. I have access to ancestry.com but all roads lead to confusion past 1901. In fact, there may be nobody left in Yorkshire but I have no information to suggest where else to look from where I sit here in Canada. I don't know the churches they would have attended - I believe they were Baptists but not regualr church goers according to family lore. The IGI has not provided anything more definitive. I would appreciate any suggestions as to where I should search from here. I'm quite willing to purchase certificates from the GRO if I can be reasonably certain it's the right family but at 7 GBP each it's a bit expensive to stab in the dark. Thank you. Ann Burns Ottawa ON Canada

Many, many thanks Judith. Barry Emmott http://mysite.freeserve.com/emmott-family

Hi Judith, Thanks for that. I have used the library archives for information but never thought of them for photographs. Sometimes I think my brain went into retirement when I did! Liz

Hi Liz Your best bet is to try Bradford Central Library Local Studies Dept. If you go to:- www.bradford.gov.uk and click on Contact us you will find there is an online form where you can contact the local studies directly. They are most helpful, I have had lots of help and photos from them and I think that the most I have paid has been £1.20 to cover copying and p&p. Good luck Judith K Liz Holdsworth <yzzil.yrruc@virgin.net> wrote: Please does anyone have a picture of Otley Road Chapel on St Augustines Terrace Bradford or know a site where I can find one? I have googled it and tried the following 2 sites http://www.churches-uk-ireland.org/ amd http://www.geograph.org.uk/ with no luck. Liz ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Please does anyone have a picture of Otley Road Chapel on St Augustines Terrace Bradford or know a site where I can find one? I have googled it and tried the following 2 sites http://www.churches-uk-ireland.org/ amd http://www.geograph.org.uk/ with no luck. Liz