HYPERLINK "mailto:janet@janetsfamilies.f2s.com"janet@janetsfamilies.f2s.com Janet Ogden has kindly given me permission to post her e-mail and contents Hi Listers, are these yours? happy hunting Janet Horton St John Bierley 24 Dec 1883 Emma Evelyn Harry Emma WILKINSON Horton St John Bierley 11 May 1884 Charles William James Elizabeth Ann WILKINSON Horton St John Bierley 14 Feb 1886 Frank William Annie WILKINSON Horton St John Bierley 05 May 1886 Mary Isaac Sarah WILKINSON Horton St John Bierley 25 Jly 1888 Jane Eliza Watson Jane Ann WILKINSON Horton St John Bierley 14 Jly 1889 Florrie Isaac Sarah WILKINSON Horton St John Bierley 10 May 1893 Gladys Frederick Mary Jane WILKINSON Horton St John Bierley 22 Feb 1903 Sarah Jane William Ethel WILKINSON Thanks so much Janet. Jan HYPERLINK "http://www.keighleyhistory.co.uk"www.keighleyhistory.co.uk No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1206 - Release Date: 01/01/2008 12:09

My New Year wish would be to find more information on my CLEWER and WOOLLEY families in Yorkshire. Jan No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.12/1203 - Release Date: 30/12/2007 11:27

Hope you all have a very happy, healthy and peaceful Christmas and a wonderful New Year. Jan in wet & chilly Bronte Country x

----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam's Mom" <gnormalgrrl@gmail.com> To: <eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [YKS-BRADFORD] Rambles Round Horton - Emma FEARNLEY Hi Adam's Mom, did you get the correction re Abm. Swaine, which I sent quite some time ago? Regards Janet > Hi Rosemary, > > I have this information on Abraham and Emma from you, and have been > following this threads with interest, as Ann LEE, niece of Emma > FEARNLEY and the daughter of Ann FEARNLEY and William LEE, also > married Alfred SWAINE, son of John SWAINE and Margaret BRUNTON of > Bradford. > > I have found the census listing you reference for Abraham and Emma, > but also 1841 and 1851 on Ancestry with the surname badly > mistranscribed as Jevaine in 1841. Visually, it is clearly Swaine. > Abraham is listed as Abram, 35, Emma, 32, and children are Joseph, > 15, Samuel, 10, Abram, Benjamin and Thomas, ages all given as 5 years. > there is also a listing for Mary, probably Abraham's mother, next > door a Samuel SWAINE, age 60, a watchman, and on the same page, > Benjamin SWAINE age 40, with Annah, 30, Mary, 20, and Henry, 10. They > are all on Manchester Road. > > They list in 1851 at Bowling, Shoesmith Stowes (?) Abm. Swaine, 44, > Emma, 42, Samuel, 16, Benj., 14, Abm., 10, Thos., 9 and Emma, 7 mos. > I have not found Joseph in this census. > > You have the 1861, at Bowling, 101 Mill Lane, Abaham, Emma, Abraham, > Thomas, Emma and Atkinson JACKSON. Samuel HILL is next door, with a > son, Fearnley HILL, age 21, a Dispensor of Medicine! > > I have not found Abraham or Emma in the 1871 census. There are 2 Emma > SWAIN on the BDM death registers at Bradford, one in the first quarter > 1864, the other second quarter, 1865, and one of these may be our > Emma. There is no evidence of children named Martha or Levi in this > line. I will try to write you a private letter, have had one started > for some time, and we will talk more. > > MaryAnn > > > On 11/12/07, Rosemary Ackroyd <rsackroyd@bigpond.com> wrote: >> Hi Janet >> >> I haven't done any work on my FEARNLEYs for a couple of years but looking >> through my notes I see that I have 'my' Emma FEARNLEY (who was the >> daughter >> of William FEARNLEY & Ann HORN), as marrying an Abraham SWAINE in 1831. >> >> This Emma was baptised on 30 October 1808. I have only one census entry >> (the 1861) for a likely couple. This gives them them children - Abraham >> (~1838), Thomas (~1840) & Emma (~1850). Emma was a sister of my great >> great grandmother. >> >> But of course I could have it all wrong. I'll have a look for further >> census this week. >> >> Best wishes >> >> Rosemary Ackroyd >> >> > >> > I have him on 1841 with Levi. If Martha 1820 was his child, he could >> > have >> > remarried to EMMA FEARNLEY >> > >> > One of the Abraham's is mention in the Book on Horton. >> > >> > Descendants of Abraham Swaine >> > >> > Generation No. 1 >> > >> > >> > 1. ABRAHAM1 SWAINE was born 1797. He married EMMA FEARNLEY 23 Jun 1831 >> > in >> St >> > Peter Bradford Yorkshire, daughter of THOMAS FEARNLEY and UNKNOWN. She >> > was >> > born 1803 in Bradford, and died in Y. >> > >> > Notes for ABRAHAM SWAINE: >> > >> > 1292/11 f33 p13 Bankfoot Mancherter Road >> > >> > Abraham Swain 40 & Levi Swaine 7 >> > >> > >> > Children of ABRAHAM SWAINE and EMMA FEARNLEY are: >> > >> > i. MARTHA2 SWAINE, b. 1820. >> > >> > ii. LEVI SWAINE, b. 1834. >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: >> 21/10/2005 >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.30/1125 - Release Date: > 11/11/2007 21:50 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 63941 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now!

In Bingley churchyard there is a tombstone recording the death of Benjamin Holdsworth of Bingley Nov 16 1773 aged 26 - also his widow Mercy who then married Joseph Firth, and died April 5 1814 aged 68. (The remainder of the inscriptions are for Firths - John the son of Joseph, (1834) and Joseph the son of John (1859) - who married Betty Constantine - and several of their children. Does anyone have any knowledge/connection of/with this Holdsworth-Firth marriage/family? Gavin (Firth) Yates in Christchurch New Zealand.

I'd like to invite the David and Ann Cox and his father Thomas Cox to dinner, to ask them how could they stand living next to Micklegate Bar with those grizzly heads sitting on the top. Who would have, in all honestly made a conscious decision to live there ? I'd also like to ask Thomas where was he born, I've yet to track him down, they appear in York apparently from thin air. Cheers Carolyn Townsville Oz

Some notes by a family member have come to light indicating that three of the sons of Joseph and Betty (Constantine) Firth (originally from Bingley) later left Bradford for overseas (departure dates unknown): Levi b 1825 (last in 1851 census) went to Australia Joseph (his twin, b 1825, last in 1861 census) went to Rio de Janeiro Thomas b 1826 (last in 1841 census) went to America (Another brother, Nathan b 1829, came to New Zealand in 1873 but he is well documented.) Has anyone (especially Bradford Firth-ites) any connection with or information on these men (and families)? Gavin (Firth) Yates, in Christchurch, New Zealand

Hello Firth researchers I recently received the death certificate of John Holdsworth, my 3 x great grandfather, who died in Bradford in 1866. Present at his death was a Hannah Firth and through searching records I have managed to establish to my satisfaction that this was his eldest child and my 2nd great grand aunt. The fact that she had a child called Joseph Beecroft Holdsworth Firth really clinched things. Through searching the BMD I believe Hannah married James Firth in the 3rd quarter of 1842 in Bradford. There is also a record of what I believe to be their marriage in the IGI, this marriage took place on 31 Jul 1842 in Calverley and the record also says that the father of James Firth was a Michael Firth. I can find no eveidence to support this fact at present. According to census records James Firth was born circa 1818 in Windhill Idle Bradford and had the following children John Firth born circa 1844 in Idle Mary Ann Firth born circa 1847 in Idle Elizabeth Firth born circa 1849 in Idle Sarah Ann Firth born circa 1852 in Idle Joseph Beecroft Holdsworth Firth born circa 1853 in Idle died 1874 Benjamin Firth born circa 1861. I just wondered if this family coincided with a James Firth that anyone else has in their records. Regards Liz Shrewsbury UK

Hi, We are at the moment transcribimg Holy Trinity Wibsey Chapel both the birth's and the deaths but the church goes back to 1606 the records to about 1630 if you let me know what years you are looking for will try and find them for you. Regards Anne Wigglesworth

Well I think I would invite a married couple - my gggg grandparents William Umpleby and Elizabeth Hebden of Ripon. Hopefully they would be good company - William was a brewer's assistant and also seems to have kept a small inn or beer house in Ripon. I would particularly like to ask William whether he was the same William Umpleby of Ripon who in 1833 was convicted at York of the manslaughter of man called Joseph Mudd and sentenced to three months' hard labour at the House of Correction in Wakefield. If so, could I please have a few more details about the victim and the reason for the crime. Was Joseph related to the John and Elizabeth Mudd aged 60 who were neighbours of my Umpleby family in Stammergate, Ripon in the 1841 census. As for Elizabeth - well I know that she was born in the tiny village of Fellbeck near Pateley Bridge sometime around 1799. But I would love to ask her who her parents were? And what was her relationship to Ruth Walker nee Hebden who seems to be living in the same household as William and Elizabeth in 1841 and whose death she witnessed in 1854. Was she related to the notorious Sinkler Hebden brothers of Pateley Bridge who were transported to Australia for an assortment of violent crimes - but managed eventually to return to Ripon. I just hope the dinner doesn't get too rowdy. Cheers Mary -- Emelle Kay emellekay@fastmail.co.uk -- http://www.fastmail.fm - I mean, what is it about a decent email service?

I am trying to find the second film for Wibsey..I ordered the one that I saw from the FHL and got it..but when I got to the end of the film it says continued on the next film..but when I look at the FHL index for Wibsey there does not seem to be another film number for Wibsey C.of E.. Does anyone know what number it would be so I can order it from them? Am tracking down all of those elusive Swaine relies all around Horton area.. Thanks SKS.. C.Olsen in Alaska.. (Merry Christmas to you all..). **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)

Hello List, Can someone tell me where the above place is? My map doesn't have that name in it. She married someone in Bradford. TIA Helen

Hello, Everyone! What a wonderful idea-- I'm so much enjoying the Christmas Dinner Guest emails! My own choice would be my great-great-uncle John Walker, my great-grandfather's younger brother. Thanks to a kind librarian the the Bradford Local Studies Library, I was able to track down a long lost 1905 newspaper article he had written, a memoir of his childhood friendship with Richard Oastler "The Factory King," when his father and Oastler were working together to pass the Ten Hour Bill on behalf of children working in the worsted mills in the 19th century. In the memoir, John Walker tells a wonderful ghost story-- and I'd love to hear him tell it again at our Christmas dinner! He says that when as a teenager he told Richard Oastler that he didn't believe in an afterlife, Oastler promised to prove it to him by appearing to him after his death. Sure enough, on the morning of Oastler's death, and before John had heard about it, his figure appeared to John in his bedroom in the early morning hours. He says in the story that his father was too grief-stricken to hear the story, and he never knew whether his father believed it-- but that he always knew his mother believed him. In his memoir, John Walker sounds like such a warm and interesting person. I wish I could learn more about him, but so far that 1905 article is my only clue. Now, if he came to dinner he could tell the rest of his story! Best holiday wishes to all! Charlotte Walker in Gilbertsville, NY, USA -----Original Message----- From: eng-yks-bradford-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of eng-yks-bradford-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu 12/13/2007 3:04 AM To: eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com Subject: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Digest, Vol 2, Issue 278 Today's Topics: 1. My Christmas Dinner Guest (ann.burns@rogers.com) 2. Re: My Christmas Dinner Guest (Richard Wild) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:21:20 -0800 (PST) From: ann.burns@rogers.com Subject: [YKS-BRADFORD] My Christmas Dinner Guest To: eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <728764.67427.qm@web88106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My guest would be my great grandmother Frances. Family lore has it that she was not a sweet person, but rather demanding to put it nicely. Her life would make a good outline for a novel and I have lots of questions to ask her. She was born Frances Core in Bradford in 1860 - to Wm Core and Nanny/Ann Holdsworth Core. In 1878 she married James Sunderland at St. Wilfred's in Calverly. James died in the fall of 1888 leaving Frances with 5 surviving children, including one twin girl, the sister having died young. The following year Frances packed up the children and sailed for Canada, probably in the summer, seemingly to join her sister, Margaret Ann Core Pownall, in Ottawa. In September of 1889 in Ottawa, ON, she married one Harry Raistrick - also born in Bradford, about 1865. That's the first and last thing I could ever find out about Harry in Canada. I believe he was the last of his particular family line in Yorkshire. In January of 1890 Frances gave birth to a daughter Serena, known in the family as Irene. On Irene's birth certificate James Sunderland is listed as her father. That would be impossible, but there's nothing to indicate for sure that it was the mysterious Harry Raistrick either. A few years later Frances was with Alfred Burwell Crawford, still in Ottawa, where she gave birth in 1897 to another set of twins, George and Alfred. Baby Alfred died of bronchitis the following year. No registration of a marriage to Alfred Crawford Sr. has yet turned up. Neither has any trace been found of Mr. Raistrick - no death, no divorce, no emigration ... despite attempts using every possible spelling of his name in church and cemetery records, and on Ancestry. A recent visit with a descendant of her youngest son George, turned up the story that Frances left England pregnant with the child of an unknown father. Harry Raistrick was from Bradford and has emerged as the likely father but ... I'm still searching digital images of all ships from England to Canada in 1889 hoping to turn up both Frances and Harry on the same ship - which still doesn't prove anything. So, the mystery remains and will intrigue me, possibly forever, unless a brick falls out of this particular wall. Merry Christmas to all listers. Ann Burns Ottawa, ON Canada ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:12:12 +0000 From: Richard Wild <wild.family@talk21.com> Subject: Re: [YKS-BRADFORD] My Christmas Dinner Guest To: eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <09c840331dfe2c41c84b057f7d392f3a@talk21.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I would like to invite two guests to my Christmas dinner table but ask each one the same question:- 1) My great, great grandfather's brother who was blessed (?) with the name WONDERFUL Brook. 2) My great, great grandfather (another branch) who was baptised WRIGLEY Wrigley. And the question I'd like to ask them both is:- "What did your mates call you when you went down to the pub?" : - ) ------------------------------ To contact the ENG-YKS-BRADFORD list administrator, send an email to ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-admin@rootsweb.com. 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I would like to invite two guests to my Christmas dinner table but ask each one the same question:- 1) My great, great grandfather's brother who was blessed (?) with the name WONDERFUL Brook. 2) My great, great grandfather (another branch) who was baptised WRIGLEY Wrigley. And the question I'd like to ask them both is:- "What did your mates call you when you went down to the pub?" : - )

From: "HELEN" <helenh48@westnet.com.au> > Can someone tell me where the above place is? My map doesn't have > that name in it. > > She married someone in Bradford.> See the Yorkshire pages of GENUKI and follow the link "Where is it in Yorkshire?" This should always be your first port of call if you can't find somewhere (along with Google). -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

I would like to invite my Great Aunt Sophie Nutter Greenwood. I'd like to know what it was like growing up in a family of weavers in Bingley and Saltaire in the 1870s and 80s. I'd like to know what happened to her husband Willie - did he die when their young daughter died? Did they separate or divorce? Did he emigrate with her to California? Or did she go by herself? Why did she go to California when all of her brothers and sisters who emigrated to the U.S. were on the east coast? _____________________________________________________________ Click to find information on your credit score and your credit report. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iifRxX9qpvEJP8oYynD7LAxEPNuca5S8W0qYVPVLZOA3EuzNs/

My guest would be my great grandmother Frances. Family lore has it that she was not a sweet person, but rather demanding to put it nicely. Her life would make a good outline for a novel and I have lots of questions to ask her. She was born Frances Core in Bradford in 1860 - to Wm Core and Nanny/Ann Holdsworth Core. In 1878 she married James Sunderland at St. Wilfred's in Calverly. James died in the fall of 1888 leaving Frances with 5 surviving children, including one twin girl, the sister having died young. The following year Frances packed up the children and sailed for Canada, probably in the summer, seemingly to join her sister, Margaret Ann Core Pownall, in Ottawa. In September of 1889 in Ottawa, ON, she married one Harry Raistrick - also born in Bradford, about 1865. That's the first and last thing I could ever find out about Harry in Canada. I believe he was the last of his particular family line in Yorkshire. In January of 1890 Frances gave birth to a daughter Serena, known in the family as Irene. On Irene's birth certificate James Sunderland is listed as her father. That would be impossible, but there's nothing to indicate for sure that it was the mysterious Harry Raistrick either. A few years later Frances was with Alfred Burwell Crawford, still in Ottawa, where she gave birth in 1897 to another set of twins, George and Alfred. Baby Alfred died of bronchitis the following year. No registration of a marriage to Alfred Crawford Sr. has yet turned up. Neither has any trace been found of Mr. Raistrick - no death, no divorce, no emigration ... despite attempts using every possible spelling of his name in church and cemetery records, and on Ancestry. A recent visit with a descendant of her youngest son George, turned up the story that Frances left England pregnant with the child of an unknown father. Harry Raistrick was from Bradford and has emerged as the likely father but ... I'm still searching digital images of all ships from England to Canada in 1889 hoping to turn up both Frances and Harry on the same ship - which still doesn't prove anything. So, the mystery remains and will intrigue me, possibly forever, unless a brick falls out of this particular wall. Merry Christmas to all listers. Ann Burns Ottawa, ON Canada

I would have to invite my husband's 2 x great-grandparents, Daniel & Maria Casey so that they could tell us exactly where they came from in Co. Cork, Ireland. Daniel and Maria were married just after the 1851 census and their place of birth of every subsequent census has been just Ireland except for one time when they actually stated Co. Cork. They both worked in the woollen mills of Bradford as worsted weavers and we would love to know their background as to why they journeyed across to Bradford - was it because of the potato famine or did they have too many other siblings that needed local work in Co. Cork? And perhaps they could also tell us if there are any descendants of their seven children other than my husband's line which emigrated to Australia and sadly will also see the surname die out with that line. Merry Christmas to all, and to all a healthy, happy new year. Jennie Fairs, Sydney Australia.

Jan, As you know, I still have an incredibly spooky tale to tell about my Maternal Great Grandfather - William Wildman. It beggars belief even now! So, I would like to have my Great Gramps to dinner to ask why there are two burial entries for him in the graves register for the Methodist cemetery in Laycock - one paid for by Him in which his Daughter, one Son and his Widow are buried, and one paid for by his Widow in which he is Also buried - And, why he IS interred in BOTH! ...................................... Hmmmmmm! It's true, I've seen the register entries, and even have a photo of it that's still readable, so I know it wasn't ectoplasm (is that what they call that fuzzy smoke stuff around ghosts?) Even the registrar couldn't fathom that one either! We had thought maybe he fell into a weaving loom and he was in bits (grizzly thought), but he died of Flu, so it scuppered that idea! Just to 'up the ante' we worked out that there were some14 folks interred in the same grave, each interrement to a different owner, which brought forth a shrug and final utterence from the registrar on the lines of ............. 'Them Methodists were a lore unter them'sells back then ...................... Nowt'd surprise me lad' (I just loved the LAD bit <LOL> ................. Mind you I was a mere sprog of around 50 whilst he was cracking on for around zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz years of age He made a damned good bacon butty too <BG> Tasted even better when it transpired that the house I was looking for (where my GGrandfather died), was actually the house I was sitting in ............. Almost! Asking if he'd any idea where the house actually was where my GGrandad lived (and died), and showing him the death certificate for Willaim, he simply stated, ' Ohhh aye, tha's sittin' in it Lad - Yon room over theere (his sitting room) was where he'd actually have lived, these two cottages were knocked together years ago, the whole row were single houses once. So, as well as the best bacon butty I'd tasted in years, I also quite unexpectedly got to walk the boards of the house where my GGrandfather once lived, having also perused the grave registers for his interrement in the very same house where he died! How bizarre is that! Brrrrrrrrr I Really must get that spooky story done! Anyone who doesn't believe our folks aren't waiting for an (in)oportune moment to point us in't right direction's a sissy I can tell you! I'll tell you about another ancestor I'd like to have to dinner later on. Now That story near on had me dear owd Mum peeing herself with laughter, and I daresay had she been incontinent, she would have <BG> So don't worry too much about upsetting our kinfolk when digging up what were probably serious issues in their day (like death for instance) - just have a chamber pot ready if they're getting on a bit! <BG> Sometimes we may find quite unexpectedly, that our ancestors were not the nice people our rose tinted spec's would have us believe they were, and the effect can be quite the reverse of what one expects when regaling a live un with the tale!! This one's a cracker, and it's come full circle, because I've made contact very unexpectedly (again yawn yawn), not only with the Grand Daughter of the person involved, but also his Great Grand Daughter - and even better - descendents of his Brother who is (was?) my Great Grandfather! Phwaaarrrr ............................ Don't hold your breath though, I type very slow ;>))))) Merry Christmas everyone! Kind regards John Woolsey (Donny, Sheffield, Brid, France and wherever else they'll put up with me ...........)! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------- Which of your ancestors would you invite to your Christmas Dinner and Why???? Warmest Wishes Jan No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1179 - Release Date: 09/12/2007 11:06

One of the ancestors I would like to invite would be grandpa Jerome Gareaux. He disappeared in Massachussets when his wife, Emmie Armitage was expecting her youngest daughter, my mother in law-. She always thought her father had died before she was born, but I found out he remarried (in the twenties, before Emmie died) and only died in the 1950´s. Emmie returned to Bradford in the 1920´s but both their ancestors still remain a mystery to us. And a black sheep in the family is bound to have interesting stories to tell. Eliane Heseltine