----- Original Message ----- From: "J.S.Wilkinson" <jswilks@lineone.net> To: <eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 11:31 PM Subject: Re: [YKS-BRADFORD] Charles Henry Ford of Ferniehurst, Baildon Hi Both, Did it belong to Salt's Mill? or was that the Knoll? There will be maps and things in Bradford Library. Janet > Hi Caroline > > Ferniehurst may have been a private house. > There is a Ferniehurst First School at Baildon Wood Bottom. The school > could > have been built on the site of the house, and it may be worth contacting > Bradford central library, or the archives, they may have the answer. > > Regards John > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-yks-bradford-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-yks-bradford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Caroline Gaden > Sent: 03 January 2008 01:08 > To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD@rootsweb.com > Subject: [YKS-BRADFORD] Charles Henry Ford of Ferniehurst, Baildon > > Hello Listers > I am researching Charles Henry Ford who was a valet in Ferniehurst, > Baildon > when he married in 1912. Is there any way I can find where he may have > been > working at this time? I've checked out the Baildon website at > http://www.baildon.org.uk/ and Googled Ferniehurst and there are obviously > a > > few 'big' houses, but they seemed to have been 'active' prior to the > 1900s. > CHF was not in the area in the 1901 census. Is there a 1911 census record > available for the area where he may turn up? [He then enlisted in the army > and died in WWI] > Any other suggestions gratefully received. > All the best > Caroline > Northern NSW > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.17.12/1202 - Release Date: > 29/12/2007 > 13:27 > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.17.12/1202 - Release Date: > 29/12/2007 > 13:27 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1208 - Release Date: > 03/01/2008 15:52 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 64235 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now!

Hi Ferniehurst was built by Sir Titus SALT for his eldest son, Edward so there should be plenty of information in Bradford Local Sudies or Bradford Archives. Kind regards Judith K Caroline Gaden <cagaden@iprimus.com.au> wrote: Many thanks John, that's a good idea, I'll contact them All the best Caroline ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.S.Wilkinson" To: Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [YKS-BRADFORD] Charles Henry Ford of Ferniehurst, Baildon > > > Hi Caroline > > Ferniehurst may have been a private house. > There is a Ferniehurst First School at Baildon Wood Bottom. The school > could > have been built on the site of the house, and it may be worth contacting > Bradford central library, or the archives, they may have the answer. > > Regards John > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-yks-bradford-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-yks-bradford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Caroline Gaden > Sent: 03 January 2008 01:08 > To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD@rootsweb.com > Subject: [YKS-BRADFORD] Charles Henry Ford of Ferniehurst, Baildon > > Hello Listers > I am researching Charles Henry Ford who was a valet in Ferniehurst, > Baildon > when he married in 1912. Is there any way I can find where he may have > been > working at this time? I've checked out the Baildon website at > http://www.baildon.org.uk/ and Googled Ferniehurst and there are obviously > a > > few 'big' houses, but they seemed to have been 'active' prior to the > 1900s. > CHF was not in the area in the 1901 census. Is there a 1911 census record > available for the area where he may turn up? [He then enlisted in the army > and died in WWI] > Any other suggestions gratefully received. > All the best > Caroline > Northern NSW > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.17.12/1202 - Release Date: > 29/12/2007 > 13:27 > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.17.12/1202 - Release Date: > 29/12/2007 > 13:27 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1209 - Release Date: > 4/01/2008 12:05 PM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ros Jarvis" <harbro.town@ntlworld.com> To: <eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [YKS-BRADFORD] ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Digest, Vol 3, Issue 3 Hi Jos, I would love to have a copy Thanks Janet > If you want to see the original of a marriage licence, I have one for 1831 > which was somehow preserved in my husband's family and is now in my > possession. > > I can scan it and send as an attachment to anyone interested > > Ros > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-yks-bradford-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-yks-bradford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter R Wood > Sent: 04 January 2008 10:28 > To: eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [YKS-BRADFORD] ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Digest, Vol 3, Issue 3 > > In message > <mailman.50797.1199400814.18604.eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com>, > eng-yks-bradford-request@rootsweb.com writes >>> Thomas HAIGH and Mary LISTER were married by licence with >>> consent of parents in Bradford Cathedral on 2/7/1818. > > Hello Margaret > > Although you may not be able to see the marriage licence itself (as Roy > Stockdill confirmed) the marriage Bonds and Allegations (as they are > called) > have been transcribed and published by Borthwick Institute, York. > > You should be able to find the application for the Licence in the > transcription. A copy is available in Bradford Central Library. It > should > give you additional information as to the Parish of origin and ages of the > putative bride and groom as well as the Church(s) contemplated for the > ceremony > > Peter R Wood in the Isle of Man > > Researching:- > > WOOD of Bramley, Leeds and Bradford and thereabouts > WILLIAMSON of Rawdon, Guiseley, Yeadon and Bradford > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1208 - Release Date: > 03/01/2008 15:52 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 64220 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now!

Thank you for the information Peter. I shall be in touch with Bradford Library, but as the charge is £22 for an hour's research (minimum time) and as I have the date and details of this Bond and Allegation so it should be fairly easy, I'm going to see if there is anything else I should like them to look at before I make the research request! Regards Margaret On 4 Jan 2008, at 10:28, Peter R Wood wrote: In message <mailman.50797.1199400814.18604.eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com>, eng-yks-bradford-request@rootsweb.com writes >> Thomas HAIGH and Mary LISTER were married by licence with >> consent of parents in Bradford Cathedral on 2/7/1818. Hello Margaret Although you may not be able to see the marriage licence itself (as Roy Stockdill confirmed) the marriage Bonds and Allegations (as they are called) have been transcribed and published by Borthwick Institute, York. You should be able to find the application for the Licence in the transcription. A copy is available in Bradford Central Library. It should give you additional information as to the Parish of origin and ages of the putative bride and groom as well as the Church(s) contemplated for the ceremony Peter R Wood in the Isle of Man Researching:- WOOD of Bramley, Leeds and Bradford and thereabouts WILLIAMSON of Rawdon, Guiseley, Yeadon and Bradford ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YKS- BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you want to see the original of a marriage licence, I have one for 1831 which was somehow preserved in my husband's family and is now in my possession. I can scan it and send as an attachment to anyone interested Ros -----Original Message----- From: eng-yks-bradford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-yks-bradford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter R Wood Sent: 04 January 2008 10:28 To: eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YKS-BRADFORD] ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Digest, Vol 3, Issue 3 In message <mailman.50797.1199400814.18604.eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com>, eng-yks-bradford-request@rootsweb.com writes >> Thomas HAIGH and Mary LISTER were married by licence with >> consent of parents in Bradford Cathedral on 2/7/1818. Hello Margaret Although you may not be able to see the marriage licence itself (as Roy Stockdill confirmed) the marriage Bonds and Allegations (as they are called) have been transcribed and published by Borthwick Institute, York. You should be able to find the application for the Licence in the transcription. A copy is available in Bradford Central Library. It should give you additional information as to the Parish of origin and ages of the putative bride and groom as well as the Church(s) contemplated for the ceremony Peter R Wood in the Isle of Man Researching:- WOOD of Bramley, Leeds and Bradford and thereabouts WILLIAMSON of Rawdon, Guiseley, Yeadon and Bradford ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In message <mailman.50797.1199400814.18604.eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com>, eng-yks-bradford-request@rootsweb.com writes >> Thomas HAIGH and Mary LISTER were married by licence with >> consent of parents in Bradford Cathedral on 2/7/1818. Hello Margaret Although you may not be able to see the marriage licence itself (as Roy Stockdill confirmed) the marriage Bonds and Allegations (as they are called) have been transcribed and published by Borthwick Institute, York. You should be able to find the application for the Licence in the transcription. A copy is available in Bradford Central Library. It should give you additional information as to the Parish of origin and ages of the putative bride and groom as well as the Church(s) contemplated for the ceremony Peter R Wood in the Isle of Man Researching:- WOOD of Bramley, Leeds and Bradford and thereabouts WILLIAMSON of Rawdon, Guiseley, Yeadon and Bradford

Thanks. I'll get in touch with Bradford Archives. Regards Margaret On 3 Jan 2008, at 21:01, Roy Stockdill wrote: From: Margaret Elliott <meelliott@btinternet.com> > Thomas HAIGH and Mary LISTER were married by licence with > consent of parents in Bradford Cathedral on 2/7/1818. > > I am anxious to find out what might be written on the bond or > licence. Can anyone help please? > > Regards > Margaret > Switzerland> It is unlikely that the licence has survived. Usually, these were given to the bridegroom to hand to the vicar when he married the couple and rarely kept by the family, so most didn't survive. If the bond has survived, then it may be at the Bradford Archives. I suggest you e-mail them. -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YKS- BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers, the offer of help was for Bradford Parish Ch of St Peter, now Bradford Cathedral, this was in the Subject Line. Janet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 64195 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now!

Hi Roy, I do not think Thomas is a brother for two reasons 1. I have never found a Thomas in my paternal grandfathers ancestors (both my paternal grandparents were called Holdsworth, my paternal grandmothers family were born around Clifton and Bailiff Bridge). 2. The parents of David Edwin and his 7 brothers and sisters I believe to be John Holdsworth and Elizabeth Beecroft. This I base on a) David Edwins birth certificate and the birth cert of his younger brother James. b) the fact that their 1st son in 1824 was called Joseph Beecroft Holdsworth c) The fact that their 3rd daughter born 1834 was called Susannah Beecroft Holdsworth d) On the 1861 census John and Elizabeth have his mother in law staying with them called Susannah Beecroft. All the children of John and Elizabeth that are present on census records I have found on familysearch - christened in Bradford. The only Thomas Holdsworths christened circa 1833 in Bradford and with a father called John had mothers of a different name. This may be a cousin but as I have not definatively traced John Holdsworth (tailor) and his parents/siblings this is difficult to establish. Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: <eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [YKS-BRADFORD] Marriage of David Edwin Holdsworth and Mary Croft > From: "Liz Holdsworth" <yzzil.yrruc@virgin.net> > >> Hi Christine and Roy, >> >> It says on the marriage cert that Mary Ellen (sorry I said Mary Ann >> earlier) was of full age when she married David, as was he. According >> to all census records after her marriage (1861 - 1891 inclusive) she >> was born circa 1839 in either Hunslet or Rodley, Leeds. >> >> The marriage took place at Shipley Church, Mary was a ?Draft? Maker ( >> I am unsure of the first word as I have problems with my sight). David >> was a wood turner which ties in with his occupation of >> joiner/carpenter following his marriage. John Croft was a Comber and >> John Holdsworth, father to David, was a tailor. >> >> I have not found any clues in the witnesses to the marruiage as yet - >> William Butterfield and Joshua Boddy.> > > The only Joshua Boddy found in Bradford in 1861 was a 44-year-old > innkeeper in Westgate and immediately next door was a 28-year-old > butcher called Thomas Holdsworth with a wife and two children. It seems > possible Thomas was David's brother. > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: > www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From: "Liz Holdsworth" <yzzil.yrruc@virgin.net> > Hi Christine and Roy, > > It says on the marriage cert that Mary Ellen (sorry I said Mary Ann > earlier) was of full age when she married David, as was he. According > to all census records after her marriage (1861 - 1891 inclusive) she > was born circa 1839 in either Hunslet or Rodley, Leeds. > > The marriage took place at Shipley Church, Mary was a ?Draft? Maker ( > I am unsure of the first word as I have problems with my sight). David > was a wood turner which ties in with his occupation of > joiner/carpenter following his marriage. John Croft was a Comber and > John Holdsworth, father to David, was a tailor. > > I have not found any clues in the witnesses to the marruiage as yet - > William Butterfield and Joshua Boddy.> The only Joshua Boddy found in Bradford in 1861 was a 44-year-old innkeeper in Westgate and immediately next door was a 28-year-old butcher called Thomas Holdsworth with a wife and two children. It seems possible Thomas was David's brother. -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

From: "Liz Holdsworth" <yzzil.yrruc@virgin.net> > Hi Christine and Roy, > > It says on the marriage cert that Mary Ellen (sorry I said Mary Ann > earlier) was of full age when she married David, as was he. According > to all census records after her marriage (1861 - 1891 inclusive) she > was born circa 1839 in either Hunslet or Rodley, Leeds. > > The marriage took place at Shipley Church, Mary was a ?Draft? Maker ( > I am unsure of the first word as I have problems with my sight). David > was a wood turner which ties in with his occupation of > joiner/carpenter following his marriage. John Croft was a Comber and > John Holdsworth, father to David, was a tailor.> Assuming they were the Holdsworth family at 220 Victoria Terrace, Bradford, in 1861, Mary was a dress maker. -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hi Christine and Roy, It says on the marriage cert that Mary Ellen (sorry I said Mary Ann earlier) was of full age when she married David, as was he. According to all census records after her marriage (1861 - 1891 inclusive) she was born circa 1839 in either Hunslet or Rodley, Leeds. The marriage took place at Shipley Church, Mary was a ?Draft? Maker ( I am unsure of the first word as I have problems with my sight). David was a wood turner which ties in with his occupation of joiner/carpenter following his marriage. John Croft was a Comber and John Holdsworth, father to David, was a tailor. I have not found any clues in the witnesses to the marruiage as yet - William Butterfield and Joshua Boddy. I have thought of all the possible scenarios given by Roy and am actively trying to pursue them but have not found any positive leads over the last couple of days. Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "yorkshire123" <yorkshire123@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [YKS-BRADFORD] Marriage of David Edwin Holdsworth and Mary Croft > Hi Liz > What was John CROFT's occupation > and what age was Mary(ann) when she married HOLDSWORTH? > Christine > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Liz Holdsworth" <yzzil.yrruc@virgin.net> > To: <eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:28 PM > Subject: [YKS-BRADFORD] Marriage of David Edwin Holdsworth and Mary Croft > > >> Some time ago I asked for help in tracing the marriage of a David Edwin >> Holdsworth to a Mary Croft (the names came from several of their >> chiildrens birth certificates). After over 2 years of searching I had hit >> a brick wall and was unable to move any further on. >> >> I recently found a descendent of this couple living in Canada through the >> www.curiousfox.com site and they had a family bible. Apparently Mary >> Croft married David Holdsworth using the name of Mary Ann Taylor >> (spinster) according to the bible. I have now acquired the marriage >> certificate for 21 Sept 1857 and this is correct, however on the marriage >> certificate her father is named as John Croft. >> >> So I am now pursuing this conundrum but thought I would record what I >> have >> found here in case anyone is following this up in the future. >> >> Regards >> Liz Holdsworth >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1208 - Release Date: >> 03/01/2008 15:52 >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From: "Liz Holdsworth" <yzzil.yrruc@virgin.net> > Some time ago I asked for help in tracing the marriage of a David > Edwin Holdsworth to a Mary Croft (the names came from several of > their chiildrens birth certificates). After over 2 years of searching I had > hit a brick wall and was unable to move any further on. > > I recently found a descendent of this couple living in Canada through > the www.curiousfox.com site and they had a family bible. Apparently > Mary Croft married David Holdsworth using the name of Mary Ann > Taylor (spinster) according to the bible. I have now acquired the > marriage certificate for 21 Sept 1857 and this is correct, however on > the marriage certificate her father is named as John Croft. > > So I am now pursuing this conundrum but thought I would record what I > have found here in case anyone is following this up in the future.< I can think of at least one possible explanation, i.e. Mary Ann Taylor/Croft was born illegitimate. Her mother was a Taylor and not married to John Croft but told Mary who her father was. How old was Mary when she married and have you found her in the 1851 census? A further possible scenario is that Mary's parents were, in fact, married and she was born as Croft, but John died and Mary's mother subsequently married a man called Taylor and Mary took the name. -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hi Liz What was John CROFT's occupation and what age was Mary(ann) when she married HOLDSWORTH? Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz Holdsworth" <yzzil.yrruc@virgin.net> To: <eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:28 PM Subject: [YKS-BRADFORD] Marriage of David Edwin Holdsworth and Mary Croft > Some time ago I asked for help in tracing the marriage of a David Edwin > Holdsworth to a Mary Croft (the names came from several of their > chiildrens birth certificates). After over 2 years of searching I had hit > a brick wall and was unable to move any further on. > > I recently found a descendent of this couple living in Canada through the > www.curiousfox.com site and they had a family bible. Apparently Mary > Croft married David Holdsworth using the name of Mary Ann Taylor > (spinster) according to the bible. I have now acquired the marriage > certificate for 21 Sept 1857 and this is correct, however on the marriage > certificate her father is named as John Croft. > > So I am now pursuing this conundrum but thought I would record what I have > found here in case anyone is following this up in the future. > > Regards > Liz Holdsworth > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1208 - Release Date: > 03/01/2008 15:52 > >

Thanks Carolyn... I'll have to dig them out All the best Caroline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn" <cazdebona@ozemail.com.au> To: <eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [YKS-BRADFORD] Charles Henry Ford of Ferniehurst, Baildon > Caroline, > > The only way I know of to get the 1911 Census is to, apply in writing, > however you do need the address for them to even bother to go looking. > (look > at Yorkshire or Yorksgen archives - big discussion early last year > [2007]). > > Sorry i can't remember which list the discussion was on. > > Cheers > > Carolyn > Townsville Oz > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-yks-bradford-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-yks-bradford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Caroline Gaden > Sent: Thursday, 3 January 2008 11:08 AM > To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD@rootsweb.com > Subject: [YKS-BRADFORD] Charles Henry Ford of Ferniehurst, Baildon > > Hello Listers > I am researching Charles Henry Ford who was a valet in Ferniehurst, > Baildon > when he married in 1912. Is there any way I can find where he may have > been > working at this time? I've checked out the Baildon website at > http://www.baildon.org.uk/ and Googled Ferniehurst and there are obviously > a > > few 'big' houses, but they seemed to have been 'active' prior to the > 1900s. > CHF was not in the area in the 1901 census. Is there a 1911 census record > available for the area where he may turn up? [He then enlisted in the army > and died in WWI] > Any other suggestions gratefully received. > All the best > Caroline > Northern NSW > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1207 - Release Date: > 2/01/2008 11:29 AM > >

Some time ago I asked for help in tracing the marriage of a David Edwin Holdsworth to a Mary Croft (the names came from several of their chiildrens birth certificates). After over 2 years of searching I had hit a brick wall and was unable to move any further on. I recently found a descendent of this couple living in Canada through the www.curiousfox.com site and they had a family bible. Apparently Mary Croft married David Holdsworth using the name of Mary Ann Taylor (spinster) according to the bible. I have now acquired the marriage certificate for 21 Sept 1857 and this is correct, however on the marriage certificate her father is named as John Croft. So I am now pursuing this conundrum but thought I would record what I have found here in case anyone is following this up in the future. Regards Liz Holdsworth

From: Margaret Elliott <meelliott@btinternet.com> > Thomas HAIGH and Mary LISTER were married by licence with > consent of parents in Bradford Cathedral on 2/7/1818. > > I am anxious to find out what might be written on the bond or > licence. Can anyone help please? > > Regards > Margaret > Switzerland> It is unlikely that the licence has survived. Usually, these were given to the bridegroom to hand to the vicar when he married the couple and rarely kept by the family, so most didn't survive. If the bond has survived, then it may be at the Bradford Archives. I suggest you e-mail them. -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Thomas HAIGH and Mary LISTER were married by licence with consent of parents in Bradford Cathedral on 2/7/1818. I am anxious to find out what might be written on the bond or licence. Can anyone help please? Regards Margaret Switzerland

Hello Listers I am researching Charles Henry Ford who was a valet in Ferniehurst, Baildon when he married in 1912. Is there any way I can find where he may have been working at this time? I've checked out the Baildon website at http://www.baildon.org.uk/ and Googled Ferniehurst and there are obviously a few 'big' houses, but they seemed to have been 'active' prior to the 1900s. CHF was not in the area in the 1901 census. Is there a 1911 census record available for the area where he may turn up? [He then enlisted in the army and died in WWI] Any other suggestions gratefully received. All the best Caroline Northern NSW

Caroline, The only way I know of to get the 1911 Census is to, apply in writing, however you do need the address for them to even bother to go looking. (look at Yorkshire or Yorksgen archives - big discussion early last year [2007]). Sorry i can't remember which list the discussion was on. Cheers Carolyn Townsville Oz -----Original Message----- From: eng-yks-bradford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-yks-bradford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Caroline Gaden Sent: Thursday, 3 January 2008 11:08 AM To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD@rootsweb.com Subject: [YKS-BRADFORD] Charles Henry Ford of Ferniehurst, Baildon Hello Listers I am researching Charles Henry Ford who was a valet in Ferniehurst, Baildon when he married in 1912. Is there any way I can find where he may have been working at this time? I've checked out the Baildon website at http://www.baildon.org.uk/ and Googled Ferniehurst and there are obviously a few 'big' houses, but they seemed to have been 'active' prior to the 1900s. CHF was not in the area in the 1901 census. Is there a 1911 census record available for the area where he may turn up? [He then enlisted in the army and died in WWI] Any other suggestions gratefully received. All the best Caroline Northern NSW ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message