While researching a branch of my family tree I was recently forwarded the obituary of John William Hutchinson 1872 - 1954. This John William Hutchinson was initially a Mill worker but became the first librarian at Eccleshill public library. He retired from there in 1924 and then wrote articles on the textile trade. According to his obituary this passion for writing "he had probably inherited from his grand-father, Richard Pitts, the Idle poet" I have googled Richard Pitt and The Idle Poet with no joy. Does anyone have any information re this man and his poetry. I thought I would ask as I know several of you have good knowledge of local characters and celebrities from the past. I will contact Eccleshill library tomorrow to see if they have anything. With thanks for anything you have Liz

Thanks for the reference Chris. I had that page bookmarked on my former computer but somehow missed transferring it to my new one. Nice to have it back on my list again. Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Gleave" <chrisgleave@hotmail.co.uk> To: "Rootsweb Bradford" <eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 5:02 PM Subject: [YKS-BRADFORD] Aeronaut > Hi > > Have just been on-line at a site of old occupations > > http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/a.html > > it gives aeronaut as a Balloonist or Trapeze Artist in circus or Music > Hall > > Hope it helps > > Chris > _________________________________________________________________ > Amazing prizes every hour with Live Search Big Snap > http://www.bigsnapsearch.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Have just been on-line at a site of old occupations http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/a.html it gives aeronaut as a Balloonist or Trapeze Artist in circus or Music Hall Hope it helps Chris _________________________________________________________________ Amazing prizes every hour with Live Search Big Snap http://www.bigsnapsearch.com

I have a lady listed as an "aeronaut". (unless I am mistaken of course). Does anybody care to speculate? Thanks, NRG.

From: Norman Gallop <ennarrgee@clear.net.nz> > I have a lady listed as an "aeronaut". (unless I am mistaken of > course). Does anybody care to speculate?> In 1901 it could only be someone who piloted a balloon. However, if you would care to post the actual reference and entry, we can check it. I have the 1901 census for Yorkshire on CD - assuming it is from Yorkshire, of course. -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Below I wrote "at the end of the 18th century beginning of the 19th" I am going nuts again - a senior moment. Before I get corrected this should read "at the end of the 19th century beginning of the 20th". Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "E. Holdsworth" <yzzil.yrruc@virgin.net> To: <eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [YKS-BRADFORD] 1901 census query > Hi, > > Looking through all the definitions it can mean a skilled worker involved > in > the building of aircraft etc as well as someone who is a pilot. So did > this > person live near to where balloons/planes were constructed. > > I understand from some work I did in my degree - many years ago! - that in > the 1800s women acted as pilots in balloons here in the UK (the large ones > of course) and women did act as aircraft pilots at the end of the 18th > century beginning of the 19th. Amelia Erhardt springs to mind but she was > in > the 1920s/1930s and there were many women pilots before her. I understand > from your e-mail address that you are in New Zealand, much of the writing > on > female pilots in the 1800s is about women from Australia and New Zealand. > > Sounds very interesting if she was one of the early women pilots, those > early aircraft did not look very comfortable or very warm and navigation > was > not easy. > > Liz > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Norman Gallop" <ennarrgee@clear.net.nz> > To: "BRADFORD List" <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 3:38 AM > Subject: [YKS-BRADFORD] 1901 census query > > >>I have a lady listed as an "aeronaut". (unless I am mistaken of course). >>Does anybody care to speculate? >> >> Thanks, NRG. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Looking through all the definitions it can mean a skilled worker involved in the building of aircraft etc as well as someone who is a pilot. So did this person live near to where balloons/planes were constructed. I understand from some work I did in my degree - many years ago! - that in the 1800s women acted as pilots in balloons here in the UK (the large ones of course) and women did act as aircraft pilots at the end of the 18th century beginning of the 19th. Amelia Erhardt springs to mind but she was in the 1920s/1930s and there were many women pilots before her. I understand from your e-mail address that you are in New Zealand, much of the writing on female pilots in the 1800s is about women from Australia and New Zealand. Sounds very interesting if she was one of the early women pilots, those early aircraft did not look very comfortable or very warm and navigation was not easy. Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Gallop" <ennarrgee@clear.net.nz> To: "BRADFORD List" <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 3:38 AM Subject: [YKS-BRADFORD] 1901 census query >I have a lady listed as an "aeronaut". (unless I am mistaken of course). >Does anybody care to speculate? > > Thanks, NRG. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Do you have the census ref number Chris> > I have a lady listed as an "aeronaut". (unless I am mistaken of course). Does anybody care to speculate?> > Thanks, NRG. _________________________________________________________________ Win 100’s of Virgin Experience days with BigSnapSearch.com http://www.bigsnapsearch.com

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From: Christopher Gleave <chrisgleave@hotmail.co.uk> > Thanks for the dozen or so offers of help. Please let me fill you in > with details from David's marriage and death certificates and the > snippets you have sent me. > > David GLEAVE married Emily Anne HEPWORTH on 26 Feb 1895 > Emily's dad George HEPWORTH is given as a wool Buyer her address > being 20 Grantham Road, Horton. David's death certificate has the > informant as F.W.Stead a brother-in-law of Emily. > > Marian his eldest daughter married Frank Cranfield CHAPMAN in 1910 > and ran a market stall in Kirkgate. Florence the only other surviving > child from his first marriage married a Arthur Stanley PRIESTLY a > solicitor in 1904, so both were self supporting. > > Why leave his second wife and family out and what happened to her, > also, Has anyone have any of the above in their records. > > Thanks again for helping me out> How very, very different from your initial posting, which merely read as follows..... "I am looking for any GLEAVE's in the Bradford area. In particular I'm after any information on David GLEAVE born 2 Apr 1851 in Ashton-under-Lyne and died at 29 Little Lane, Bradford on 12 Jan 1907." By pointing to the vagueness and paucity of information in your original post, it seems I have forced you to admit that you knew rather more than you first said. I do not blame you particularly, since you are obviously a Newbie to these lists and a novice in how to phrase queries. However, I do believe it is a factor that others should take carefully into account when posting, i.e. give as much information as possible, say what you have done already and precisely what you want to discover further, otherwise you are just wasting the time of other listers. -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hi. Thanks for the dozen or so offers of help. Please let me fill you in with details from David's marriage and death certificates and the snippets you have sent me. David GLEAVE married Emily Anne HEPWORTH on 26 Feb 1895 Emily's dad George HEPWORTH is given as a wool Buyer her address being 20 Grantham Road, Horton. David's death certificate has the informant as F.W.Stead a brother-in-law of Emily. Marian his eldest daughter married Frank Cranfield CHAPMAN in 1910 and ran a market stall in Kirkgate. Florence the only other surviving child from his first marriage married a Arthur Stanley PRIESTLY a solicitor in 1904, so both were self supporting. Why leave his second wife and family out and what happened to her, also, Has anyone have any of the above in their records. Thanks again for helping me out Chris Gleave >From a now overcast Stockport. _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile. Text MSN to 63463 now! http://mobile.uk.msn.com/pc/mail.aspx

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Just a couple of ideas Chris. Maybe his children from his first marriage were running the business for him, so relied on what he was able to leave them. Perhaps his wife was independently wealthy. Do you know anything about her background and family? If he and his second wife were 'not getting on" you could perhaps find that out from how quickly she remarried, or from whether or not she reported his death. These unexpected facts make genealogy so interesting. I have an ancestor who suddenly remarried, age 80, a woman almost his age with an unmarried daughter. I presume this daughter looked after them both, but I have often wondered whether his daughter, who had looked after him since her mother's death, felt relieved or slighted! Regards Margaret On 14 Apr 2008, at 13:39, Christopher Gleave wrote: Hi I have David GLEAVE's birth, marriage (both), death certificates and will, I also have him in the relevant census returns. I am looking for any information as to why his second wife and her children were left out of his will, also anything about his time in Bradford. Chris GLEAVE Amature Genealogist and hard working Taxi driver > From: roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: eng-yks- > bradford@rootsweb.com> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:54:49 +0100> > Subject: Re: [YKS-BRADFORD] New to list - GLEAVE> > From: "Roy > Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com>> > > From: Christopher > Gleave <chrisgleave@hotmail.co.uk>> > > > > I am looking for any > GLEAVE's in the Bradford area. In particular> > > I'm after any > information on David GLEAVE born 2 Apr 1851 in> > > Ashton-under- > Lyne and died at 29 Little Lane, Bradford on 12 Jan> > > 1907.>> > > > > Presumably you have acquired his birth certificate, since you > appear> > to know his precise birthdate? If not, why not? It will > give you the> > names of both parents to start with and you can > trace them back from> > there, first finding their marriage which > will give you the names of> > both fathers (i.e. David Gleave's > grandfathers).> > > > Then find David Gleave in the 1861 and > subsequent censuses. This> > should confirm you have the right man, > since the parents' names should> ! > be the same as those on his birth certificate. The census entries > will> > also give you any siblings. The censuses are online at > several> > websites but you will need to take out a subscription or > buy> > pay-per-view units.> > > > Look for a marriage for him at > FreeBMD, remembering to check under> > different variants of the > surname, i.e. GREAVE. There is a possible> > marriage at Bradford > in the March qtr of 1895, vol 9b page 78. There> > are, of course, > other names on the page and you need to look at the> > 1901 census > to find out which female he married (if, indeed, this is> > him).>> > > There is also a potential marriage at Chorley, Lancs, in the Dec > qtr of > 1872, vol 8c, page 787. This was probably him because in > the 1881 > census (free at Ancestry and Findmypast) he was aged 30, > born at > Ashton-Under-Lyne, and a jewellery dealer in Manchester. > He had two > small daughters, aged 5 and 1, and was widowed. He > also had a sister > and two nieces living with him.> > Free! BMD has a number of Gleave marriages at Ashton-Under-Lyne but > the mo st likely for his father looks to be a John Gleave married in the Mar > qtr of 1848, vol 20 page 1. There are 4 female names on the page, so > you will have to find them in 1851 and 1861 to see who John married. > There is also a Henry Gleave married at Ashton-Under-Lyne in the Dec > qtr of 1852 and of course it's always possible David's parents weren't > married until after he was born. > > You should also look at the Digital Library of Historical Directories at > www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/, since if he was a jeweller you should be > able to find an entry for him in Manchester - and perhaps later in > Bradford.> > See how much you can learn from free online sources? It's simply a > matter of knowing where to look and I trust I have pointed you in some > directions. I am afraid that, as a matter of policy, I do not do look-ups > from websites which require a subscription, so I will have to leave it to > you to take it from here. > > --> Roy Stockdill> Professional gen! ealogical researcher, writer & lecturer> Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: > www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html> > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about."> OSCAR WILDE> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile. 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Hi I have recently subscribed to the Bradford List, and I am shocked by the reply from one of the listers, it appears I have wasted his time. I am sorry to all those people who subscribe to the Bradford list, I have found Bradford a friendly place in the past. I have now unsubscribed Chris _________________________________________________________________ Win 100’s of Virgin Experience days with BigSnapSearch.com http://www.bigsnapsearch.com

Hi If you had of read my second posting to the list, I apologised for not including the information, and included some more information. If I spoke to my regular passengers the way you have spoken to me I would be unemployed by now, I am sorry for wasting your precious time. Chris Gleave > From: roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:00:30 +0100> Subject: Re: [YKS-BRADFORD] David GLEAVE> > From: Christopher Gleave <chrisgleave@hotmail.co.uk>> > > I have David GLEAVE's birth, marriage (both), death certificates and> > will, I also have him in the relevant census returns. I am looking for> > any information as to why his second wife and her children were left> > out of his will, also anything about his time in Bradford. Chris> > GLEAVE Amature Genealogist and hard working Taxi driver> > > Well, why didn't you say so instead of posting the absolute minimal > information and making me waste my time trying to help you?> > I am afraid it makes me rather cross when people post vague messages > asking for information and then, when you try and help them, they come > back with words to the effect of "Oh, I've already got all that"! Can you > really not understand how irritating this can be? If you had been more > precise in the first place, I wouldn't have bothered replying with > information you already had. I have better things to do with my time!> > As to why someone left his second wife out of his will, how on earth can > you expect us to know that? There could be any number of family > reasons. You may as well ask why Shakespeare left his wife only his > "second-best bed". If you were really trying to find someone who is > researching the same man, then why not say so?> > I will certainly not bother trying to help you again, given your attitude > towards a response that was intended to be helpful (especially your > somewhat sneering signature), nor I doubt will many others, either.> > --> Roy Stockdill> Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer> Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: > www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html> > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about."> OSCAR WILDE> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Win 100’s of Virgin Experience days with BigSnapSearch.com http://www.bigsnapsearch.com

From: Christopher Gleave <chrisgleave@hotmail.co.uk> > I have David GLEAVE's birth, marriage (both), death certificates and > will, I also have him in the relevant census returns. I am looking for > any information as to why his second wife and her children were left > out of his will, also anything about his time in Bradford. Chris > GLEAVE Amature Genealogist and hard working Taxi driver> Well, why didn't you say so instead of posting the absolute minimal information and making me waste my time trying to help you? I am afraid it makes me rather cross when people post vague messages asking for information and then, when you try and help them, they come back with words to the effect of "Oh, I've already got all that"! Can you really not understand how irritating this can be? If you had been more precise in the first place, I wouldn't have bothered replying with information you already had. I have better things to do with my time! As to why someone left his second wife out of his will, how on earth can you expect us to know that? There could be any number of family reasons. You may as well ask why Shakespeare left his wife only his "second-best bed". If you were really trying to find someone who is researching the same man, then why not say so? I will certainly not bother trying to help you again, given your attitude towards a response that was intended to be helpful (especially your somewhat sneering signature), nor I doubt will many others, either. -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hi I have David GLEAVE's birth, marriage (both), death certificates and will, I also have him in the relevant census returns. I am looking for any information as to why his second wife and her children were left out of his will, also anything about his time in Bradford. Chris GLEAVE Amature Genealogist and hard working Taxi driver > From: roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:54:49 +0100> Subject: Re: [YKS-BRADFORD] New to list - GLEAVE> > From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com>> > > From: Christopher Gleave <chrisgleave@hotmail.co.uk>> > > > > I am looking for any GLEAVE's in the Bradford area. In particular> > > I'm after any information on David GLEAVE born 2 Apr 1851 in> > > Ashton-under-Lyne and died at 29 Little Lane, Bradford on 12 Jan> > > 1907.>> > > > Presumably you have acquired his birth certificate, since you appear> > to know his precise birthdate? If not, why not? It will give you the> > names of both parents to start with and you can trace them back from> > there, first finding their marriage which will give you the names of> > both fathers (i.e. David Gleave's grandfathers).> > > > Then find David Gleave in the 1861 and subsequent censuses. This> > should confirm you have the right man, since the parents' names should> > be the same as those on his birth certificate. The census entries will> > also give you any siblings. The censuses are online at several> > websites but you will need to take out a subscription or buy> > pay-per-view units.> > > > Look for a marriage for him at FreeBMD, remembering to check under> > different variants of the surname, i.e. GREAVE. There is a possible> > marriage at Bradford in the March qtr of 1895, vol 9b page 78. There> > are, of course, other names on the page and you need to look at the> > 1901 census to find out which female he married (if, indeed, this is> > him).>> > There is also a potential marriage at Chorley, Lancs, in the Dec qtr of > 1872, vol 8c, page 787. This was probably him because in the 1881 > census (free at Ancestry and Findmypast) he was aged 30, born at > Ashton-Under-Lyne, and a jewellery dealer in Manchester. He had two > small daughters, aged 5 and 1, and was widowed. He also had a sister > and two nieces living with him.> > FreeBMD has a number of Gleave marriages at Ashton-Under-Lyne but > the most likely for his father looks to be a John Gleave married in the Mar > qtr of 1848, vol 20 page 1. There are 4 female names on the page, so > you will have to find them in 1851 and 1861 to see who John married. > There is also a Henry Gleave married at Ashton-Under-Lyne in the Dec > qtr of 1852 and of course it's always possible David's parents weren't > married until after he was born. > > You should also look at the Digital Library of Historical Directories at > www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/, since if he was a jeweller you should be > able to find an entry for him in Manchester - and perhaps later in > Bradford.> > See how much you can learn from free online sources? It's simply a > matter of knowing where to look and I trust I have pointed you in some > directions. I am afraid that, as a matter of policy, I do not do look-ups > from websites which require a subscription, so I will have to leave it to > you to take it from here. > > --> Roy Stockdill> Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer> Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: > www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html> > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about."> OSCAR WILDE> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile. Text MSN to 63463 now! http://mobile.uk.msn.com/pc/mail.aspx

From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> > From: Christopher Gleave <chrisgleave@hotmail.co.uk> > > > I am looking for any GLEAVE's in the Bradford area. In particular > > I'm after any information on David GLEAVE born 2 Apr 1851 in > > Ashton-under-Lyne and died at 29 Little Lane, Bradford on 12 Jan > > 1907.> > > Presumably you have acquired his birth certificate, since you appear > to know his precise birthdate? If not, why not? It will give you the > names of both parents to start with and you can trace them back from > there, first finding their marriage which will give you the names of > both fathers (i.e. David Gleave's grandfathers). > > Then find David Gleave in the 1861 and subsequent censuses. This > should confirm you have the right man, since the parents' names should > be the same as those on his birth certificate. The census entries will > also give you any siblings. The censuses are online at several > websites but you will need to take out a subscription or buy > pay-per-view units. > > Look for a marriage for him at FreeBMD, remembering to check under > different variants of the surname, i.e. GREAVE. There is a possible > marriage at Bradford in the March qtr of 1895, vol 9b page 78. There > are, of course, other names on the page and you need to look at the > 1901 census to find out which female he married (if, indeed, this is > him).> There is also a potential marriage at Chorley, Lancs, in the Dec qtr of 1872, vol 8c, page 787. This was probably him because in the 1881 census (free at Ancestry and Findmypast) he was aged 30, born at Ashton-Under-Lyne, and a jewellery dealer in Manchester. He had two small daughters, aged 5 and 1, and was widowed. He also had a sister and two nieces living with him. FreeBMD has a number of Gleave marriages at Ashton-Under-Lyne but the most likely for his father looks to be a John Gleave married in the Mar qtr of 1848, vol 20 page 1. There are 4 female names on the page, so you will have to find them in 1851 and 1861 to see who John married. There is also a Henry Gleave married at Ashton-Under-Lyne in the Dec qtr of 1852 and of course it's always possible David's parents weren't married until after he was born. You should also look at the Digital Library of Historical Directories at www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/, since if he was a jeweller you should be able to find an entry for him in Manchester - and perhaps later in Bradford. See how much you can learn from free online sources? It's simply a matter of knowing where to look and I trust I have pointed you in some directions. I am afraid that, as a matter of policy, I do not do look-ups from websites which require a subscription, so I will have to leave it to you to take it from here. -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

From: Christopher Gleave <chrisgleave@hotmail.co.uk> > I am looking for any GLEAVE's in the Bradford area. In particular I'm > after any information on David GLEAVE born 2 Apr 1851 in > Ashton-under-Lyne and died at 29 Little Lane, Bradford on 12 Jan 1907.> Presumably you have acquired his birth certificate, since you appear to know his precise birthdate? If not, why not? It will give you the names of both parents to start with and you can trace them back from there, first finding their marriage which will give you the names of both fathers (i.e. David Gleave's grandfathers). Then find David Gleave in the 1861 and subsequent censuses. This should confirm you have the right man, since the parents' names should be the same as those on his birth certificate. The census entries will also give you any siblings. The censuses are online at several websites but you will need to take out a subscription or buy pay-per-view units. Look for a marriage for him at FreeBMD, remembering to check under different variants of the surname, i.e. GREAVE. There is a possible marriage at Bradford in the March qtr of 1895, vol 9b page 78. There are, of course, other names on the page and you need to look at the 1901 census to find out which female he married (if, indeed, this is him). -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hi Sorry, his parents were Eli GLEAVE and Margaret MORTON. He married his second wife Emily Anne HEPWORTH on 26 Feb 1895 in Bradford and had two more children Anne Margaret and Constantine Victoria. I have a copy of his will, in which he gives everything, including the family home and his business in Kirkgate market to his two remaining children from his first marriage Marion GLEAVE and Florence PRIESTLY. I was wondering why his second wife and family were not given anything. Chris > From: yorkshire123@blueyonder.co.uk> To: eng-yks-bradford@rootsweb.com> CC: chrisgleave@hotmail.co.uk> Subject: Re: [YKS-BRADFORD] New to list - GLEAVE> Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:27:35 +0100> > chrisgleave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote> snip<I'm after any information on David GLEAVE born 2 Apr 1851 in > Ashton-under-Lyne and died at 29 Little Lane, Bradford on 12 Jan 1907.> Hi and Welcome> Do you want him finding on say 1861 census to get parents> Let us know what you already know about him> to save us duplicating things> Christine> > _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile. Text MSN to 63463 now! http://mobile.uk.msn.com/pc/mail.aspx