The fourth part - one more to come. Eccleshill - John Stanhope Esq - Six Eccleshill - Jere Copperthwaite - Two Eccleshill - John Nichols - Three fourths Eccleshill - Wm Bartle - One fourth Eccleshill - Abraham Nichols - One half Eccleshill - Mr Wormal - One Eccleshill - James Garth, a Minor - One Eccleshill - Mr Brooksbank - One Eccleshill - Nathan Jowett - One Eccleshill - Zachariah Rayner - One Eccleshill - Mr S Hemmingway - One Eccleshill - James Thompson - Three fourths Eccleshill - Mr Jos Wood - One half Eccleshill - Wm Norton - One Eccleshill - Jere Sowden for Ackroyds - One Eccleshill - Josias Sowden - One half Eccleshill - James Fletcher - One half Eccleshill - Wm Barraclough - One half Eccleshill - John Dean - One fourth Eccleshill - James Barraclough - One half Eccleshill - John Swaine, Samuel Swaine, and Jere Sowden - One Eccleshill - Joseph Vittars - One half Eccleshill - John Jowett, James Hutton, and Thomas Pawson - One Shipley - Mr Rawson - Three Shipley - Mr Proctor - Two Shipley - Abraham and Timothy Dixon - Three Shipley - Jeremy Dixon - One Shipley - John Nathan Dixon - One Shipley - John Field senr - One Shipley - John Field junr - Two Shipley - John Lister - Two Shipley - Hartley Land - Two Shipley - Jasper Pickard - One Shipley - Jeremy Garth - Three fourths Shipley - William Midgley - Three fourths Shipley - Marmaduke Raynor - One half Shipley - Mr Fell, New Close - One Shipley - Mrs Dobson - One half Shipley - Hirst Mill - Hannah Weetman, Owner - Geo Birch, Tenant - One Allerton - Mr John Hollings - Two and a half Allerton - Dr Richardson - Three fourths Allerton - Joseph Middleton - One Allerton - Mr Fenton - One half Allerton - Mr Fenton for Stockley - One half Allerton - Mr Brian Sunderland - One and a half Allerton - John Hodgson - One fourth Allerton - John Cossin - One fourth Allerton - John Shaw - One half Allerton - Widow Mortimer - Three fourths Allerton - Richard Blackburn - Three fourths Allerton - Mr James Sagar - One and a half Allerton - Matthew Hollings - One and a half Allerton - Joseph Hollings - One Allerton - Jonas White - One Allerton - Joseph Lister - One half Allerton - Joseph Hollings - One fourth Allerton - Jeremy White - Three fourths Allerton - John Cockcroft - One half Allerton - Jere Gledhill - One Allerton - Wm Ferrar - One half Allerton - Widow Leath - One Allerton - Abram Pearson - One fourth Allerton - Widow Jennings - One fourth Allerton - Mr Elkanah Horton - Three fourths Allerton - Mr Moore - One and one fourth Allerton - Widow Hargreaves - Three fourths Allerton - Joshua Binns - One fourth Clayton - John Midgley for himself and Tenants - Two and three fourths Clayton - Wm Midgley - One fourth Clayton - John Hirst - One Clayton - Isaac Hollings - Three and three fourths Clayton - George Carter - One fourth Clayton - Mr Ferrand for himself and Tenants - Two Clayton - Mr Langley - One fourth Clayton - Jonas Sucksmith - One fourth Clayton - John Armitage - One fourth Clayton - Edward Hemmingway - One fourth Clayton - Mr Oates' Land - One half Clayton - Mr Wood's Land - One half Clayton - Wm Mortimer - One half Clayton - Isaac Balme - One half Clayton - Thomas Gledhill - One fourth Clayton - Michael Ackroyd - One fourth Clayton - Sugden's Land - One fourth Clayton - John Harrison - One fourth Clayton - James Murgatroyd - One half Clayton - Abram Sharpe - One fourth Clayton - Lambert's Land - One fourth Clayton - Henry Lancaster - One fourth Clayton - Jos Sucksmith - One fourth Clayton - Abraham Naylor - One fourth Clayton - Richard Pollard - One fourth Clayton - T Sleddall for Midgley's Land - One and a half Clayton - Mr Smith - One and a half Clayton - Also three in common amongst Geo Carter, Jno Smith, J Sucksmith, Abram Moore, Lawrence Ambler,Mary Hemmingway, William Ward, Nathan Smith, Widow Mortimer relict of Edmund, H Brooks, S Waller, The heirs of:- John Brooksbank, Liversedge, and Bell,&c - Three Thornton - Mr Elkanah Horton - Four Thornton - Mr John Hollings - Three and a half Thornton - West Scoles or W Hird - One and a half Thornton - Upper Headley or Mr Butler - One and a half Thornton - James Keighley - One half Thornton - Jeremy Gledhill - One Thornton - Jos Firth - One Thornton - Wm & Jonas Pearson - One Thornton - Joshua Wright - One half Thornton - Mr Isaac Hollings - Two Thornton - Mr Wm Midgley - One half Thornton - Mrs Martha Midgley - One half Thornton - John Pearson - One half Thornton - Heirs of John Dobson - One half Thornton - Joseph Booth - One half Thornton - Timothy Gawkrodger - One half Thornton - Chapel Lands - One fourth Thornton - School Lands - One fourth Thornton - John Wadsworth - One half Thornton - Abraham Longley - One fourth Thornton - John Ambler - One fourth Thornton - Mr Cockcroft - One half Thornton - Thomas Hirst - One half Thornton - Tempest Cordingley - One half Thornton - Mr Thornton - One and a half Thornton - Jonas White - One fourth Thornton - John Dixon - One half Thornton - John Cordingley - One fourth Thornton - John Ambler - One fourth Thornton - Nathan Pearson - One half Thornton - Matthew Foster - One half Thornton - Widow Jennings - One half Thornton - Robert Ferrand Esq - One fourth Thornton - Mr Edward Ferrand - One fourth Thornton - Robert Leath, now Mr E Ferrand - One fourth Thornton - Jeremy Stott or Scott - One half Thornton - Jas Copley, Alderscoles - One half Thornton - Dr Prescott - One fourth Thornton - John Barstow - One fourth Thornton - John Ingham - One fourth Thornton - Jonas Rishworth - One fourth Thornton - Jonas Foster - One Thornton - John Varley - One fourth Thornton - Peter Butterfield - One fourth Thornton - Thomas Binns - One fourth Thornton - ~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~,Esq, York - Three and a half Thornton - Heirs of John Foster for Long House - One half Thornton - Michael Horsfall - One half Thornton - Timothy Horsfall - One half Thornton - Robert Holmes - One Thornton - Mary Horsfall - One half Thornton - John Whitaker - One half Thornton - William Appleyard - One half Thornton - Michael Driver - One half Thornton - Mich Horsfall, Tim Horsfall, and Mary Horsfall, for Holling Park - One and a half Thornton - Edmund Ogden, Michael Whitaker, Josh Cordingley, Abraham Woodhead, Gaugh Hall, Jeremy Sowden, Driver Field, Intacks, Rigg School, and other small Farms not named before; in common - Two

Morning List, I was browsing around some of my old URL's and thought the following would be of help to people NOT familiar with Bradford. Map Site......... http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ New Map Bradford.......... http://www.multimap.com/map/browse cgi?GridE=416135&GridN=433183&client=public&X=416135&Y=433183&scale=100000&pl ce=Bradford West+Yorkshire&db=hcgaz&local=&type=&start=&limit=&coordsys=gb&overviewmap=&s veme=Bradford,West%20Yorkshire Regards. Elaine. Ottawa. Canada.

Hi Jan, Wondering if your HEATONs can connect with James HEATON born c1788. According to the IGI James married Nancy PICKARD on 4/4/1808 at Leeds St Peters. Other information gathered:- Directory for City of Leeds, 1826 & 1830 show James Heaton, Brushmaker, 13 Brunswick Street Water Lane, Leeds. James sailed from Liverpool on 15th June 1833 on the Barque 'Lady East' arriving in Port Jackson, Australia on 15th November 1833 with his wife Nancy and 5 children, Hannah 22, James 12, Priscilla 10, John Robert 4 & Salina 4 months. Regards Ken Croft In Australia >From: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-D-request@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com >To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-D@rootsweb.com >Subject: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-D Digest V03 #46 >Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 03:00:38 -0700 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com ([207.40.200.39]) by >mc7-f23.law1.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Thu, 13 Feb >2003 02:01:03 -0800 >Received: (from slist@localhost)by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.12.4/8.12.4) id >h1DA0cRL001193;Thu, 13 Feb 2003 03:00:38 -0700 >X-Message-Info: dHZMQeBBv44lPE7o4B5bAg== >Message-Id: <200302131000.h1DA0cRL001193@lists2.rootsweb.com> >X-Loop: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-D@rootsweb.com >X-Mailing-List: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume03/46 >Precedence: list >Return-Path: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-D-request@rootsweb.com >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Feb 2003 10:01:03.0513 (UTC) >FILETIME=[D175E090:01C2D346] > ><< message2.txt >> ><< message4.txt >> ><< message6.txt >> ><< message8.txt >> ><< message10.txt >> ><< message12.txt >> ><< message14.txt >> ><< message16.txt >> ><< message18.txt >> ><< message20.txt >> ><< message22.txt >> ><< message24.txt >> ><< message26.txt >> ><< message28.txt >> ><< message30.txt >> ><< message32.txt >> ><< message34.txt >> ><< message36.txt >> _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_mobile.asp

Hello Jan, Gentile? Oh, there's enough of those! I want someone a little "different", maybe more "unique"! But after reading several of these snippets, it seems I may "fit in" with them myself! These characters give me the feel of what life was like in Keighley where my rellies lived for years. Thanks again, Gail in Wisconsin genereau@vbe.com <snip> Hope you still want more of these..........know Gail does! Not sure though Gail, if you will find any of your more gentile family here...........BUT who knows!

Thanks Roy - will do. Cheers, Mal. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy@stockdillfhs.org.uk> To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 12:54 AM Subject: Re: [ BRAD] Is interest waning? > "Mal Pace" <mal_pace@ihug.co.nz> wrote..... > > > Hi Roy - no definately not losing interest. Do you have anything on the > > typhoid outbreak in 1875,<< > > NO, but the local studies library at Bradford Central Library > probably would. They have a website and you can e-mail them (sorry, > don't know it offhand but it's easily found with Google). > > >> and have any idea what illness would have killed > > off two brothers in December 1851?> > > Could any one of a number of diseases, but anthrax was a big killer > in the Bradford wool mills. My own grandfather died after contracting > it in 1907. > > Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) > Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > Do not advertise commercial or non genealogical content links after or within your messages without first seeking permission from the Admin. > Do not use the list as a port hole to advertise website urls. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

JOSEPH THORNTON married 1809 at Kildwick, Yorks. Hello Listers, I am looking for a connection to any of the following children of Joseph Thornton married to Mary Teal at Kildwick on 3.2.1809. Henry born 2.6.1810 George 19.7.1812 Jane 23.12.1815 married James Hindle on 28.8.1842 Kildwick Johanna 24.10.1818 John 4. 5.1822 Thomas 25.7.1825 Joseph 17.2.1828 William 17.7.1831 Sarah Elizabeth 1.4.1834 Jane Thornton married James Hindle on 28.8.1842 at Kildwick and they were my great, great grandparents.. Looking forward to hearing from anyone who happens to be a descendant of any of these children. Kindest regards from Derek Hindle in Tasmania, Australia.

ROFL! -----Original Message----- From: Sue Rylands [mailto:pub20009@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 14 February 2003 00:48 To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ BRAD] Tail of the Tiger! Reported in the Indian Herald 1796 In India, Ben the Bengal Tiger had a remarkable conflict with Mr William TURNER of Bradford, Yorkshire, England. It was a long tail to tell and caused many pawses for thought in the telling. Mr Turner and Ben fought like animals but only scratched the surface of their dispute. The battle was called off due to the discovery of claws 23.1.21 of the Indian convention for animal rights. Ben survived only by a whisker and was awarded an extra stripe for bravery. After meeting Baden Powell he was impressed with his Cubs and founded the Scout Movement. He died on Feb 14 1798 and is displayed in Bradford Town Hall. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy@stockdillfhs.org.uk> To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 11:50 PM Subject: Re: [ BRAD] Yorkshire Snippets - Bradford entries part 4 WAS there any news of the tiger??? > > > Died Thursday last at Bradford aged 86 years, Mr William TURNER. > > The deceased fought at the siege of Seringapatam and had also a > > remarkable conflict with a tiger in India about sixty years ago. < > > > Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) > Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== Do not advertise commercial or non genealogical content links after or within your messages without first seeking permission from the Admin. Do not use the list as a port hole to advertise website urls. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Ralph: In 1881 71 Westgrove St. was occupied by John McHugh, 52, Commercial traveller, his wife and 9 children. No one in he household connected with dressmaking or bootmaking. Regards, Gordon in Ottawa At 10:55 PM 13/02/2003 -0500, Rlj0369@aol.com wrote: >Might SKS be able to tell me if an address was a business or residence from >about 1875-1893. >Address is 71 Westgrove St. Bradford possibly a bootmaker or dressshop.. >family tradition is vague > >TIA .. > >Ralph >Aberdeen New Jersey USA > > >==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== >Please do not just click on 'reply' - Change the subject line to describe >more accurately the subject of *your* message. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hello List & Janet I would like to thank Janet Ogden for all her work on my behalf, sending me many details about Ravenroyd..................just what I needed. Janet reflects how we want this list to run......... Thanks also to Sue Rylands, Valerie in North Yorks,Lynne & Roy and many many others who are bringing so much life into this list................. A big big thanks Janet.....and will be in touch off list................... Warmest Wishes Jan in Bronte Country Co-List Admin Eng-Yorks, Bradford Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Updated daily automatically. WARNING ..... To help prevent any virus transmission DO NOT open any attachments to this mail unless the attachment filename is quoted in my first line of the message text

I know that this event took place in Leeds, but he was on his way home to Pudsey and his brothers lived in Idle. I knew from a memorial inscription that the brother of my 4 x great grandfather died by drowning in Leeds just before Christmas 1818. I thought that the event could have been recorded in the local newspaper and found this article in the Leeds Intelligencer for Monday 28 December 1818. "Another fatal accident occurred on Tuesday night in consequence of the very unsafe state in which the Leeds and Liverpool Canal basin near to Water Lane in this town is suffered still to remain. On the above night, about eleven o'clock, Mr. John Lobley, a mill-owner at Farnley, and Mr. John Whitfield, a cloth-searcher, at Pudsey, left the Queen's Head at Mill-Hill, both on one horse, and proceeded over Leeds Bridge towards Farnley. Soon after they had passed the small bridge leading out of Water Lane towards the canal, one of them observed it was a dismal dark night, and it was well they were so perfectly acquainted with their way. This conversation was scarcely finished before the horse, owing to the fog, quitted the road, and fell with its riders into the old Canal basin. Some time after, Mr. West, master of a stone-vessel lying in the basin, being alarmed by the cries of some person in distress, hastened from his cabin and, with the assistance of Mr. Andrew Coulman, ! and his mate, and some of the workmen employed by the Union Company, rescued Mr. Lobley and his horse from their perilous situation. Whitfield had sunk to rise no more, and though diligent search was made for his remains the body was not found till Friday, having floated from the place where they had plunged into the water, on the south side of the old basin, to the north east corner of the new basin at the point nearest to the Waterloo Ford. On Thursday night, a respectable tradesman, in this town, missed his road, and walked into the new basin: he too would have perished, had he not been an expert swimmer. Blame certainly attaches somewhere for the dangerous state in which both the canal basins are left. We will not now longer dwell on what has unfortunately occurred - but we most sincerely trust that the possibility of future accidents will be guarded against without delay, and as effectually as possible." Immediately underneath that article was this one: "The family of Buonaparte have been allowed to appoint M. Beauregard to go to St. Helena as physician: he attended at Elba." It brings history home, doesn't it ?! If anyone else is reseaching the WHITFIELDs of Idle, Pudsey, Calverley, Horsforth or thereabouts please get in touch. I've been concentrating on that line for the past couple of years and have lots of information. Marilyn Maybury

Hi List This is a local person on Mike's List.................any claimants Date: 14/02/2003 13:08:15 GMT Standard Time From: mike@derow.fsnet.co.uk (Michael SPENCER) Hi list, further Wills of folks who once lived in Yorkshire but left Wills in Derbyshire. Are they connected to you ? 1887 JAMES WILSON Saltaire and Windhill Thats the last of over 300 Wills left by Yorkshire folk in Derbyshire between 1858-1928. Hope you find someone to link up and knock a wall or two down. Mike Need a Will mike@derow.fsnet.co.uk Hope it help someone.................. Jan in Bronte Country Co-List Admin Eng-Yorks, Bradford Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Updated daily automatically. WARNING ..... To help prevent any virus transmission DO NOT open any attachments to this mail unless the attachment filename is quoted in my first line of the message text

Hi List Hope you still want more of these..........know Gail does! Not sure though Gail, if you will find any of your more gentile family here...........BUT who knows! 'Old Blue Nose' (or Dick) He hired a machine from Leo SOMMA, and sold roast spuds and chestnuts at t'Top o' Town* * T 'Top o' Town was the area around the top of the High Street, and the bottom of West Lane, and the bottom of the present day Oakworth Road. 'Spud Mick' (Michael MCDONALD) Had his hot (roasted) potatoe machine at the bottom of Cavendish Street, just outside the coal yard. It was a fantastic shining apparatus and he sold 3 potatoes for 1d 'Sydney Pea Can' (WALKER) walked around the streets, selling brown peas, from a cart pulled by a donkey. It was sais he stirred his peas with his wooden leg. He lived down Greengate. 'Peas All 'Ot' Was another pea hawker. He carried a can with a small fire under it, to keep the peas warm. He kept small pieces of coal in his pocket. He also lived down Greengate. 'Johnny Born Drunk' Was an out porter at the railway station. He used to stagger as he walked. He had a hand cart, with which he would take stallholders' wares to the old Market for them. He would work regularly with another man for the larger loads. There were another two or three out-porters, but 'Born Drunk' gor all the cream of the work from the stallholders, who would travel around the local markets. He lived in the Kip. 'Aeroplane Jimmy' Was a landscape gardner, laying out gardens. He walked with his arm outstretched behind his back. He lived at Eddie's lodging house. Lizzie CLURE Lived in Bocking and smoked her clay pipe. She used to walk around the foundries and building sites. She was 60 in 1945, but always seemed very old. Joe CLURE the brother of Lizzie, used to sing in the Catholic Cluc, stood on a buffet, to reach the higher notes. He was a tatter and earned his living from collecting the rags-and-bones. 'Jimmy in the Bucket' Would carry his bucket around with him, and would stand on his hands with his head in the bucket and sing old songs in pubs and clubs. His head would be beetroot red at the end of his turn. He lived in the Kip. 'Frizzie Lizzie' (Elizabeth MCDONALD) she was an old lady who lived on damside, used to go cadging broken bottles, rags, bones around the Market and elsewhere. She was only 4' 6" - 4' 7" tall. Woman, if they were not careful, would be told their hair was like Frizzie Lizzies's. 'Old' Sam ROWAN Sold bobbins of cotton, buttons and tape, house to house. He carried his wares in a big basket with a black oilcloth cover. He lived in Ivy Place, Damside. 'Snigger' BINNS was a well-known lady, who lived by Quebec Bridge, he husband used to tar roofs. 'Mother' PERRY Had a shop at the top of Snigger Binns' (Seedy) Hill, and was a second hand clothes dealer. She would travel around the big houses asking if they had any clothes which she could buy from them. 'Peggy' KELLY Was a very small woman, only 4'11" tall, she kept a second hand clothes shop at t' Top o' Town. Her real name was MArgaret KELLY, and she would not answer to Peggy. 'Old Bill' LAYCOCK Had a ragshop on Mill Street. He bought old and torn clothing which was used for Shoddy, papermaking and tab rugs. Tom NORTON kept another ragshop (belonging to LISTER's crockery shop) in Mill Street. Only had one leg. Edmund LUND Went around the streets, selling from a box cart, pipe spills and firewood. He had a speech impediement, and spoke in a slow drawl. His big red round face was like a tomato. Warmest Wishes Jan in Bronte Country Co-List Admin Eng-Yorks, Bradford Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Updated daily automatically. WARNING ..... To help prevent any virus transmission DO NOT open any attachments to this mail unless the attachment filename is quoted in my first line of the message text

Hi List More Keighley Characters for you to enjoy! Johnny Touch Wood (MORLEY) Johnny always nervously touched doors and widow sills. He worked as a bottle washer at Ackroyd's (corner of Russell St & Suresnes Rd) After he finished work he would deliver newspapers, He lived in Devonshire Street. He had a nervous breakdown through too much studying whilst at college. Tommy NAYLOR (nick name Custard Britches) Was an inmate of Eddie's lodging house. He had a big green box on a hand cart on which he used to take the bedding to Keighley Corporation wash-house, twice a week or more. Frankie NAREY Was a great friend of Tommy NAYLOR. They were said to fight together. He used to stand at the top of Low Street, where the Midland Bank used to stand. 'Johnny Twabbles' Lived in Eddie's lodging house. He stood on Station Bridge and later on outside the Education Office. Children would run past this frightening character, with distorted speech. An unverified rumour was that he carried a cobbler's knife - which would have been razor sharp. Clifford HOLMES ( Paymum) Had a speech impediment and could not say 'Papers' only 'Paymum'. He would ring a handbell, his voice did not carry. He stood outside the Midland Bank, also sold firewood from his little cart. 'Peggy' SNOWDON He only had one leg. He stood with crutches at Station Bridge. Jimmy GINLEY He was the fastest seller of them all, even though he only had one arm. He stood by the Midland Bank, sticking the papers in between the railings. 'Johnnie Pot Taw' Was a 4 foot tall midget. He had no permanent job, but sold matches for example, outside the old Post Office. Like 'Johnny Twabbles' he also lived in Eddie's lodging-house, but they often quarrelled about their pitch. 'John Thomas' (BRADLEY) Used to play his portable gramophone on a pram, busking outside the Regent Picture House (North St) and the Theatre. His records were usually cracked, scratched and inaudible and the queues would shout 'Turn it off' He lived near Quebec Bridge. 'Freddie Gramophone' (BUTTERFIELD) was a rival to John Thomas, and had his gramophone mounted on a purpose built cart. There were three queues at the Theatre (stall & circle -together , gods, pit) and two at the Picture House (stalls & circle), so there were plenty of stands for John Thomas, Freddie Gramophone & Tingalary Tommy. Freddie Gramophone would go to all the big houses on Spring Gardens Lane, and on Sundays out to Eastburn. He was always reputed to be a member of the BUTTERFIELD family of Cliffe Castle. He had a speech defect, which worsened the more excited he became, and he used to shout and bawl so you could not understand what he was saying. He married 'Alice Flatfeet' (GRAYSTONE) who wore size 14 shoes and was K legged (knock-kneed) She was the daughter of a farmer at the top of Black Hill, she worked at Parker's Mill in Golbourne Street. Archie SMITH was the Theatre doorman. 'Good seats in all parts, circle, balcony and stalls'. he would call. He wore a uniform as he walked outside. 'Old' Mr. GREEN was the manager of the Theatre. He had a tin leg. He was very quick tempered with his staff. He was the only man in Keighley who worked whilst wearing evening dress - except for the orchestra, but they lived in Bradford and elsewhere. 'Tinglary Tommy' Played a barrel-organ, which was pulled around the streets by a small pony. They belonged to Leo SOMMA. 'Emily Matchbox' (also known as 'Sally Matchbox') Used to sing in the streets for pennies. She was hired from the Workhouse, to work as a maid in the lodging-house. She also worked in the mill for a short time, before selling newspapers and singing in the street. Her maiden name was LUND, but she was reputed to be married to 'Joe Pump'. Whatever their marital status, they lived in the same house in Park Lane. 'Joe Pump' accompanied 'Emily Matchbox' with a concertina. He was an odd-job man. He also sold firewood from a cart. He would also stand (with others) at the bottom of Cavendish Street, with a shovel, and when a block-cart went to deliver coal to one of the big houses, he would get a job to go and shovel it into the coal-hole at the customer's expense (he would get a tanner or a shilling) More later.................. Warmest Wishes Jan in Bronte Country Co-List Admin Eng-Yorks, Bradford Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Updated daily automatically. WARNING ..... To help prevent any virus transmission DO NOT open any attachments to this mail unless the attachment filename is quoted in my first line of the message text

Hello Roy and anyone who has traced Music Hall folk. In my first year of searching (only2yrs ago) I found all the 10 living children of Michael and Rebecca CREEDON in Bradford . A son Dennis had a few years of stage / music hall career in early 1900's. I have a very good picture of Dennis and Jessie partners on stage and married at some time. I believe Jessie came from a theatrical family She was Jessie BROUGHTON - BLACK. I think they both sang and Dennis played violin. Maybe Jessie played piano too. In earlier searching I found information from a New Zealand site which told of at least a BROUGHTON brother possibly father also in theatre Dennis and Jessie were In London in early 1920's. Several members of my family remember seeing and hearing their act. I believe it was at the EMPIRE Leicester Square for at least a season . They also made one or two records which I found some details of. I do not know about stage names?early appearances in Yorkshire perhaps ? etc They ran a pub near Reading after the stage career. I have not followed up anything lately but now that I'm using the net more easily and have worked on my miners and emigrants I'll turn my attention back to Dennis and Jessie in case anyone can guide me to make discoveries. Dennis CREEDON was born in Bradford in 1879. I'm not sure that I have any more relevant information at present. I had hoped to get to London to do some looking in Colindale but budget, family commitments etc mean that day is a long way off. Perhaps someone knows of more on line sources or places to write to.? I'll start by trying to find their marriage cert..... couldn't before but try, try and try again ! Hopeful of starting a new 'hunt' Valerie N Yorks

Thank you Dot for the list of the Parish Church Stallholders. I think one of them might be an ancestor. - - My cousin Marion recently obtained the deeds to the family's ancestral cottages, and the first line of a summary reads - "14th February 1712 ASSIGNMNT.Jas Walker to John Lister and Wm Hutton." Would anybody know whether the original church records, wherever they may be now, is likely to give us anymore - such as whether the William Hutton who is listed, was of Eccleshill? Am a bit puzzled by the allocations - what does one fourth mean? Did they only get the seat every fourth Sunday, or did each pew accommodate as many as four people? Malcolm Hutton (In Cairns) ----- Original Message ----- From: <DotWain@aol.com> To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 3:06 AM Subject: [ BRAD] Pre 1705 sitting in Bradford Church > Dear List, > > I propose to post these at intervals s there are far too many to send in one > go. > I hope someone finds an ancestor among the seat holders. Some held a large > number of seats and must have been on some importance. > > Extract from:- Collectanea Bradfordiana, by Isaac Holroyd, published in 1878 > > "A Register of the Townships and Owners' Names, > with the Seats or Sittings allocated to each, > in the Parish Church of Bradford, > before the year 1705" > > "Previous to the year 1705, the sittings in the church were mere stalls, of > irregular shapes and dimensions. A commission was granted by John Sharp, > Archbishop of York, to twelve inhabitants of the parish, to pull down these > stalls, and pew the church in an uniform manner; and in execution of this > commission the church was pewed as the body of the church now remains. (1867)" > > "I have given the above list of stallholders in the 17th century, as they > were then the principal land owners also of that time. As the Parish church > was re-pewed and realloted in 1705, the names given would be the property > holders of Bradford and of the other villages in the parish, during the fifty > years before that date. > For the list I am indebted to a work by Dr. John Outhwaite, a name formerly > well known in Bradford, and much respected. I will here also give the full > title and contents of the book, as it may be of use to future Bradford > Antiquaries. "Documents Relative to Bradford Church" (including) - "An > Account of the Pews, Seats, and Sittings, as Assigned in Pursuance of the > Commission granted by the Archbishop of York, in 1705.; And also the > Allotment which took place before the church was pewed, and was then in > Stalls or Stands." > > > I have transcribed the above list, (over 600 names), in Bradford, including > the townships within the Parish of Bradford. Namely Allerton, Bowling, > Clayton, Eccleshill, Haworth, Heaton, Hortons, Manningham, Oxenhope, Shipley, > Stanbury, Thornton, Wibsey & North Bierley, and Wilsden. - Dorothy, High Peak > > > > REMEMBER ! These names are a transcript, of a transcript, of a transcript! > They should be checked against the original. I presume that the church should > be able to tell you where the original is to be found. > > Township - Name[s] - Sittings > Bradford - John Stockdale - One and a half > Bradford - Mr John Smith - One and three fourths > Bradford - Jonas Nichols - One fourth > Bradford - William Hutton - One fourth > Bradford - John Parker - One fourth > Bradford - William Denham - One > Bradford - Jonas Clarkson - One fourth > Bradford - Mr W Rawson - Two and a half > Bradford - George Jackson - Three fourths > Bradford - Joseph Field - One > Bradford - Samuel Stansfield - Three and One fourth > Bradford - William Webster - One and one fourth > Bradford - Mr Richard Smith - Five and one fourth > Bradford - Thomas Rhodes, senr. - One and one fourth > Bradford - Thomas Hodgson - Two and a half > Bradford - Jonathan Thompson - One and one fourth > Bradford - Widow Ferrand - One fourth > Bradford - John Bannister - One fourth > Bradford - William Norton - One fourth > Bradford - Susan Collier - One > Bradford - Ann Parkinson - One half > Bradford - John Margerison - One and a half > Bradford - George Parish - One fourth > Bradford - Thomas Rhodes, junr. - One fourth > Bradford - Mr Hoppy - One and a half > Bradford - John Ellis - One fourth > Bradford - Jere. Bower of Idle - One fourth > Bradford - John Croasdale - One fourth > Bradford - Jonas Bower - One half > Bradford - Tobias West - Two > Bradford - Mr Thomas Clapham - One > Bradford - Benjamin Killingbeck - Two > Bradford - Mr Jonas Waterhouse - five > Bradford - William Atkinson - One half > Bradford - Joshua Stead - One fourth > Bradford - John Stead - One fourth > Bradford - Mrs Mortimer and J Shaw - Seven > Bradford - Mr John Stanhope - One and one fourth > Bradford - Mrs Sharp or R Stanfield - Two and one fourth > Bradford - Mrs Walker - One and one fourth > Bradford - Mr Bower - Three fourths > Bradford - Matthew Stead - Two > Bradford - Grace Smith - Three fourths > Bradford - Mr Thomas Hooke - Three > Bradford - Samuel Hollingworth - Three fourths > Bradford - John Hird - One > Bradford - William Stead - One > Bradford - Joshua Bartlett - One half > > Dorothy, in the High Peak of Derbyshire > > ______________________________ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. 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Reported in the Indian Herald 1796 In India, Ben the Bengal Tiger had a remarkable conflict with Mr William TURNER of Bradford, Yorkshire, England. It was a long tail to tell and caused many pawses for thought in the telling. Mr Turner and Ben fought like animals but only scratched the surface of their dispute. The battle was called off due to the discovery of claws 23.1.21 of the Indian convention for animal rights. Ben survived only by a whisker and was awarded an extra stripe for bravery. After meeting Baden Powell he was impressed with his Cubs and founded the Scout Movement. He died on Feb 14 1798 and is displayed in Bradford Town Hall. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy@stockdillfhs.org.uk> To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 11:50 PM Subject: Re: [ BRAD] Yorkshire Snippets - Bradford entries part 4 WAS there any news of the tiger??? > > > Died Thursday last at Bradford aged 86 years, Mr William TURNER. > > The deceased fought at the siege of Seringapatam and had also a > > remarkable conflict with a tiger in India about sixty years ago. < > > > Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) > Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html >

Was Viagra invented before then? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy@stockdillfhs.org.uk> To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [ BRAD] Yorkshire Snippets - Bradford entries part 2 > > AND the next question is.........??? <v.b.g.> >

"Sue Rylands" <pub20009@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote..... > Died Thursday last at Bradford aged 86 years, Mr William TURNER. > The deceased fought at the siege of Seringapatam and had also a > remarkable conflict with a tiger in India about sixty years ago. < WAS there any news of the tiger??? Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith

"Sue Rylands" <pub20009@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote..... > Married on Wednesday at our parish church by license by the REv. > H. HEAP, vicar. Mr Joseph DRAKE, manufacturer, of Thornton, to > Miss Sarah SWAIN of this town. The bridegroom is 72 years of age > and the blushing bride only 24.< AND the next question is.........??? <v.b.g.> Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith

Might SKS be able to tell me if an address was a business or residence from about 1875-1893. Address is 71 Westgrove St. Bradford possibly a bootmaker or dressshop.. family tradition is vague TIA .. Ralph Aberdeen New Jersey USA