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    1. [ BRAD] Posting on Wilfrid Lawson please!
    2. Mal Pace
    3. Hi All, I moused delete instead of print (twit!) so would SKS please forward Roy's article on Wilfrid Lawson - one of my mother's favourite actors and she would love to read it I'm sure. Thanks, Mal.

    02/16/2003 08:34:29
    1. [ BRAD] Re: Apprentice Document
    2. Hello Listers For those of you who had ancestors who were endentured as an apprentice you might be interested in the following. I am fortunate to have the original document for my grandfather Jeremiah PICKARD when he was endentured as an apprentice Cabinet Maker to William Henry SPURR in 1874 . At that time Jeremiah was only 13 years of age. I am assuming that the printed part of the document is a standard form used in all cases. The hand written part is in beautiful Spenserian Script. In the printed part it goes on to say "that his Master does warn that he (the apprentice) will not frequent taverns or alehouses unless sent there on business by his Master. Nor shall he engage in Dice, Cards, Tables or Bowls or any other unlawful games. (As an avid and competive lawn bowler I can't help but wonder about that one!) Wages w ere set at 4 shillings per week for the 1st year and raised each year by 1 shilling until the 7th year his wages were 10shillings. This is provided that the apprentice is not absent from work due to illness or any other reason unless sanctioned by the Master. The wages are to be paid to Jeremiah's father John unless the father allows them to be paid directly to the apprentice. At the time William Spurr was living in Shipley and Jeremiah PICKARD was in Apperley Bridge. At the time of the 1881 census William SPURR was living at 34 Westgate, in Shipley and was employing 4 men and 4 boys. There is a great deal more - all in all a very interesting document. Best regards Jackie PICKARD Fyfe Montreal

    02/16/2003 08:17:56
    1. [ BRAD] A fight on board the SIDDONS
    2. vgilbert
    3. Some of the stresses of life on board in 1855 (Liverpool to Philadelphia ) came to a head and John Solomon Fullmer says in his diary "I had a little difficulty to settle today between the steward and an aged brother,Father [John] Knowles of Preston.The latter, cosidering himself imposed upon by the farmer in the upsetting of his dish at the cooking galley,hit the steward with his pan which was resented by the other with a blow with a fire poker.Although no great damage was done by way of breaking skulls,still feelings were outraged between brethren and a black mark given. Although both were blamable it was evident ,allthings, including the age of Father[John]Knoeles considered that the steward had not sufficiently restrained himself and had abused the old man and that he must make his acknowledgement to the aged brother and the Saints and humbly solicit their forgiveness. This was done on the spot ,that is before the meeting closed,and all made right.But I had to inflict some severe chastisements before this was satisfactorily accomplished. Some of my best and most spirited preaching is couched and mixed! up in my severest rebukes. This is singular, but it is in a fact that I ofttimes have the greatest flow and power of the spirit resting on me in such occasions." John Solomon Fullmer was a leader of the Mormon party on board.John Knowles is listed in the pasenger list as a 66yr old Power loom worker. This is the last of my postings from these diaries. The info came from a Mormon Index CD. I believe it has lots more ships and journeys listed.and hope to look it up at an LDS centre soon.Have also been looking at http://www.xmission.com/~nelson/ship_list.htm for some Mormon Emigrant information. I did not know until this discovery that we had any Mormons in the line.It has been amazing what has turned up and I suspect there is lots more.. the wagon trail stories etc Good hunting to anyone who discovers relations through checking these sources. Valerie N Yorks

    02/16/2003 07:50:02
    1. Fw: [ BRAD] Alhambra Bradford
    2. vgilbert
    3. Subject: Re: [ BRAD] Alhambra Bradford > Thank you John for the Princes Theatre info.I have not found much about the > area stages yet. I thought Roy might have been forthcoming with > suggestions. sadly not so far. I am working on lists of Theatrical folk, > hopefully.There is a site I found which gives where travelling entertainers > were in 1881 census.Very interesting and I found a possible relation of g > Aunt Jessie Broughton. Lots more of the list to look at . just wish I could > get to Colindale ! > Looking forDennis CREEDON and Jessie BROUGHTON > > Any more theatres around where a Bradford lad might have got started let me > know. He made it to the London stage by 1918 so The pair must have been > reasonably OK. > > Travelling entertainers http://www.greatallied.fsnet.co.uk/index.htm > someone might fid their kin here. > > > Valerie nee CREEDON > > > > > Subject: Re: [ BRAD] Alhambra Bradford > > > > Hi Valerie > > > > There was the Princes Theatre at the bottom of Little Horton Lane, > > 'across the road' from the Alhambra. I think there was also a music > > hall at the back of it, and the noise halted plays, etc that were on > > at the Princes. > > I have been looking in my bookcases, for the book containing > > information about theatres, but it looks as though someones borrowed > > it. It could be my son, if anythings missing (especially tools) he's > > got it <g>. > > > > Regards John > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > >

    02/16/2003 07:09:53
    1. FWD: Re: [ BRAD] Ramoth & Emma Barraclough,1901 Census
    2. del barr
    3. __________ (del barr sent on 16 Feb 2003) Hi Rosemary, Thank you for taking an interest in looking for my missing rellies. Sadly neither of the Ramoths fit the bill.Mine was born on the 3rd.November 1889 and bap.1.12.1889 at Buttershaw St.Paul's Church. Both he and his sister Emma were alive in 1901,because in 1917 they benefitted from the will of a maiden aunt. Thanks once again Cheers-----Derek.

    02/16/2003 06:14:29
    1. RE: [ BRAD] Wapping Street
    2. Jennie Fairs
    3. Hi John, Thanks for enlightening me with your reply on the back to back housing - I found that very interesting having been used to what we Australians refer to as our "own quarter acre block". The mention of Saltaire on the list was what made me wonder about housing for mill workers but as usual with my ancestors they won't make it easy for me <grin>. Thanks again for your help. Jennie Fairs. -----Original Message----- From: John Spencer Wilkinson [mailto:jswilks@lineone.net] Sent: Tuesday, 11 February 2003 4:52 PM To: Jennie Fairs; ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ BRAD] Wapping Street Hi Jenny It's very unlikely that you will be able to identify which mill someone worked at. For those who are lucky to have ancestors who lived in areas such as Queensbury or Saltaire there is a very good chance that they worked in the local mill. I lived in an area known as the Millfield, which is still there. The houses are back to backs built in stone with slate roofs. Originally the loos were in a block at the end of the street, but most houses now have inside facilities. The houses are adjacent to Perseverance Mills at Slack Side, and some of the houses have much larger rooms than the others, with a strip of garden, which I was told were originally for the managers and overlookers. The houses above are in streets, but a large number of those near to the city centre, were built as two rows of back to backs about 12 feet apart with houses built across the ends to form an internal courtyard, with a street between these blocks of houses. I don't think any of these courts have survived as a complete entity, but there is the odd remnant remaining, which gives some idea of the dire environment in which some of the people lived. Regards John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennie Fairs" <jennief@cherry.com.au> To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 13 February 2003 07:07 Subject: [ BRAD] Wapping Street > Hi List, > > I may have asked this question before but because I still don't know I'll > ask again. > > If a worsted weaver lived in Wapping Street Bradford c1870s is it possible > to advise which woollen mill he would probably have worked at? > > Thanks, Jennie Fairs, Sydney Australia. > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > Please do not just click on 'reply' - Change the subject line to describe more accurately the subject of *your* message. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    02/16/2003 04:02:08
    1. [ BRAD] 1851 Census
    2. Hi Could SKS check the Bradford Family History Society 1851 census index for the name NANSON. There shouldn't be more than 4 families in all of Bradford. I am looking for the film and page numbers so I can order the films at the LDS. Hope this isn't too much to ask. Thanks Debbie Massachusetts, USA

    02/16/2003 12:16:39
    1. [ BRAD] Ramoth & Emma Barraclough,1901 Census
    2. del barr
    3. Greetings Listers. The majority of you will use computers for your e-mailing,and also for your family history research,making use of all the 'mod cons' that are available these days.You will know the delights of finding info.on www & htp sites. I get my e-mailing through my TV on a special channel run by a cable company.I can use it for sending/receiving messages only.My family research is carried out by the old fshioned method of going to libraries,archives etc.and looking at microfilms/fiches of original documents. This afternoon at Bradford Library I looked for 2 of dad's cousins on the 1901 census--Ramoth Barraclough aged c.12 and his sister Emma aged c.10.They were not with their parents Francis/Frank & Anne,nor with any other Barraclough relatives in Buttershaw. They might have been with their CLOUGH grandparents,whose address I know not,but probably in North Bierley. I am NOT asking SKS to spend hours looking for these 2 children,but if there is SKS who is a CLOUGH expert he/she might have come across them already. If anyone finds them accidentally,or by looking,please point them in my direction ; I will be overjoyed and very grateful to their finders. Cheers--------Derek Barraclough

    02/15/2003 05:26:10
    1. [ BRAD] HINDLE of COWLING, KILDWICK - pre 1844 or BRAMLEY after, any connections. ??
    2. Derek Hindle
    3. Hello Listers, I am looking for any connections to the surname HINDLE in the parishes of Kildwick and surrounding areas, of Keighley pre 1844, or any HINDLE families in Bramley aftyer 1844, for mutual discussion. Pleased to hear from anyone with the HINDLE surname. Kindest regards, Derek Hindle in Tasmania, Australia.

    02/15/2003 03:41:13
    1. [ BRAD] Daft mistake fixed!
    2. Sharon Richardson
    3. Hi, I posted this morning after accidentally importing a gedcom into my PAF file, I am happy to report that by going to Restore and using a back up zip file, I reinstated my true tree. The message is.....ALWAYS BACK UP YOUR FILE. with out the recent back up I would be in all sorts of strife. Best regards Sharon Australia

    02/15/2003 02:42:03
    1. [ BRAD] Keighley Characters
    2. Gordon Dewhirst
    3. While we are on the subject of Keighley characters can someone explain why Keighley is pronounced as though it was spelt Keithley? Is it just another idiosyncrasy of the British character? Regards, Gordon in Ottawa

    02/15/2003 12:04:59
    1. [ BRAD] Keighley Characters 4
    2. More for the Listers who are interested. John KILROY Was an Irish navvy and a massive 6'5" tall. He had hands like shovels. Every now and then, after a heavy drinking bout, he would have to be restrained in a straightjacket - by at least half a dozen bobbies from 'Number one' (Devonshire St) as the local police station was known. 'Tar Pan Joe' (ASHTON) worked on the tarpan boiler, which was puilled by a horse, when the Corporation men laid the roads with stone setts.He would fill in the cracks with hot tar from the spout of his tar bucket. 'Ski' Milk Man Skim-milk or blue-milk had the cream taken away. The 'Ski' Milk Man had a hand cart made for the job, with two milk churns on it. He sold the skim-milk at about 1d per pint. 'Old Nellie' was a peg seller, lived in Oliver's lodging-house with Abe MILNES, a stone sawyer. She had a gruff voice, much deeper than you could expect a woman ever to have. 'Daddy' FEATHER had a pot/crockery shop on damside. He would auction dinner and tea services. He could pile almost a whole service between his fingers and chin. And if his price, was not reached, he would smash them against the wall. His wife was called 'Tapioca Semolina' FEATHER Billy FEATHER Used to sing in pubs. He was 'Daddy and 'Tapioca Semolia' FEATHER's son. He was going away to college and had a good education. But for whatever reason he was down on his uppers. Although he had a cleft palate he was a good singer. He would always end up singing 'Maquita'. He lived with 'Malizzie' (Mary Elizabeth) HALLIGAN in Eastwood Square. They would sing together. 'Old Granny' HEAPS Lived on Damside. Whatever the weather, she would always sit outside on a little chair. All she lived on were cat's lights. No one ever knew how old she was. She said she remembered soldiers in the place called the 'Barracks' later knows as Ivy Place............ Patsy COLLINS Had a peg leg. He would crack wooden doors and so on with his head for a bet, when he had been drinking. Once he cracked an old oven door with his head (which was shaped like and egg) He lived in the Workhouse. Any of you found your relatives yet???????? Warmest Wishes Jan in Bronte Country Co-List Admin Eng-Yorks, Bradford Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Updated daily automatically. WARNING ..... To help prevent any virus transmission DO NOT open any attachments to this mail unless the attachment filename is quoted in my first line of the message text

    02/15/2003 11:09:27
    1. Re: [ BRAD] Yorkshire Snippets - Bradford entries part 2
    2. Chris Tayelor
    3. Hi Roy I have one of those active gentlemen on my tree. One JUBAL ILLINGWORTH had 5 daughters in the 1850's and 60's. In the 1901 census I found him with a new wife of 33 with a one month old son John. He was 77. If at first you don't succeed......... Regards Heather Tayelor ----- Original Message ----- From: Roy Stockdill <roy@stockdillfhs.org.uk> To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 1:44 AM Subject: Re: [ BRAD] Yorkshire Snippets - Bradford entries part 2 > "Sue Rylands" <pub20009@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote..... > > > Married on Wednesday at our parish church by license by the REv. > > H. HEAP, vicar. Mr Joseph DRAKE, manufacturer, of Thornton, to > > Miss Sarah SWAIN of this town. The bridegroom is 72 years of age > > and the blushing bride only 24.< > > AND the next question is.........??? <v.b.g.> > > Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) > Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith > > ______________________________

    02/15/2003 07:47:48
    1. Re: [ BRAD] Bank Crash
    2. Don
    3. Thanks Gordon, I guess it is possible that my grandfather was an agent for the bank in which he had invested some of his money. I wonder if the one that he was involved went "belly up" a his money lost? Kind regards, Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Dewhirst" <gordon@dewhirst.ca> To: "Don" <dreynolds@netspace.net.au>; <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [ BRAD] Bank Crash > Don: > My ancient Britannica (1911) says with respect to Penny Banks: "These banks > have a twofold object: one to provide facilities for putting by extremely > small sums for those whose means are very limited, and the other to attract > children in their earliest years so as to train them to habits of thrift > and the realization of the importance and use of even quite small > savings." The article goes on to say such banks were to be found > throughout the country and while there were no statistics there must be > tens of thousands in operation. One of the largest was the Yorkshire Penny > Bank with 858 branches and deposits of UKP16 million. Many Penny Banks > were established in schools. The Penny Banks had a close association with > the Post Office and many children, upon leaving school, transferred their > accounts to the Post Office system. The article in Britannica would have > been written about 1908-1910. > > Regards, > Gordon in Ottawa > > At 09:25 AM 13/02/2003 +0000, Don wrote: > >Hi, > > > >My father (Joseph Hanson Reynolds) was born in Manningham in 1877, his > >father was a successful Stuff Merchant and Insurance agent and the large > >family lived quite comfortably. > > > >About 50 years ago dad told me that his family fell on hard times > >following a "bank crash" in the 1890s. > > > >I have not been able to identify any "bank crash" that he could have > >referred to. I do know, however, that his parents ran a penny bank for the > >poor, is it possible that it was this that he refered to > > > >Can anyone advise me on an event that could be described as a bank crash > >at this time. > > > >Also, could anyone give me a description on what a penny bank was and how > >it worked. > > > >Thank you, Don in Oz > > > > > >==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > >Its expected that all subscribers to the list have a virus detection > >program installed. If you dont have one then please install one > >immediately. ***** You Know It Makes Sense ***** > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    02/15/2003 03:50:22
    1. [ BRAD] Jane Wilson with Lister connections
    2. G Overend
    3. I have an elusive great great grandmother, Jane Wilson, born about 1846. The first definite documentation I have is her marriage to Martin Beston in Sunderland in 1868. She was able to sign her name. Her father is listed as Joseph Wilson, a wool sorter. I have found Jane and Martin in the 1871 census in Mexborough. Jane gave her place of birth as Bingley. 2 daughters were born in Mexborough in 1872 and 1874. Before 1881 Jane had died and Martin moved back to co. Durham. The 2 girls are living in Manningham in 1881 with Joseph Lister (born 14 August 1838, father Joseph) and his wife Ann (born 15 August 1839, surname unknown). Joseph was a woolstapler and the family later moved to Burley in Wharfedale. The Listers were relatives of Jane Wilson and the 2 girls regarded them as their parents. It seems possible that Mrs Ann Lister was Jane Wilson's aunt, so finding a marriage or her maiden name might help my search. I have looked in the 1851 census and Jane is not in Bingley area. There is a Jane of the right age in Bradford with father Joseph but the whole family were born in Halifax. There are numerous Jane Wilson birth registrations in the GRO index, including many in Bradford area but none of the ones I enquired about had a father named Joseph. I have been unable to find a death registration for Jane Beston, but I may have missed it or her name may have been mis-spelt (I did look for the most usual variations but some of the films are very faint). I think that the death would have to be registered in the 1870's but it would not have been compulsory to register the birth in 1846. Perhaps she was wrong about her place of birth or the census enumerator wrote it incorrectly. Perhaps the family had left Bradford before 1851. I have been stuck with Jane Wilson for 3 years and may never find anything else, but if anyone has any suggestions on how I can proceed, or if a Lister researcher has knowledge of Joseph and Ann, I would be pleased to hear. Best wishes, Gillian

    02/15/2003 01:57:42
    1. Re: [ BRAD] BURGESS ROLLS
    2. John Spencer Wilkinson
    3. Hi Ralph The Burgess Rolls are bound lists of those who paid rates, dating from 1848. They are in alphabetic sequence within wards up tp to 1883, when they are in street order within ward. Burgess Rolls are nly issued for those towns with borough status, e.g. Bradford, Keighley and Leeds. They are similar to electoral rolls. If you have no idea of where someone lived, it's a long job finding someone, and if after 1883, virtually impossible. Regards John ----- Original Message ----- From: <Rlj0369@aol.com> To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 20 February 2003 02:20 Subject: [ BRAD] BURGESS ROLLS > could SKS explain the Burgess rolls... are they tax rolls, rolls of property > ownership or something else? Also, persons listed therein would be -- > tenants or boarders or owners? > > thanks for the help > > Ralph > NJ USA > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > Its expected that all subscribers to the list have a virus detection program installed. If you dont have one then please install one immediately. ***** You Know It Makes Sense ***** > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    02/15/2003 01:48:08
    1. [ BRAD] HELP, I've done something daft!
    2. Sharon Richardson
    3. Sorry to put this on the list, but I have just done something stupid. Someone sent me a GEDCOM of my German relatives (in German), I tried to save it and then open it in my Personal Ancestral File paf.5 from the LDS. Somehow. I imported it into my own file and now I have all these names and people unlinked and unknown. I looked and there is a tab "Restore" do I click on that and then restore from the zip file? Will that remove all the new imports? Thanks for any advice, I seem to have imported over 200 names so it will be hard to remove them manually. Sharon Australia

    02/15/2003 01:09:04
    1. [ BRAD] Actor Wilfred Lawson aka WORSNOP
    2. Roy Stockdill
    3. IS there a remote chance anyone has a connection to the following family? John Michael Dowling WORSNOP, described in the 1901 census as living on "own means" aged 51, born Bradford. Wife Isabella Worsnop, 33, b. Scotland Daughter Emily Worsnop, 21, b. Bradford Sons Bernard Worsnop, 3, and Wilfred Worsnop, 1, both b. Bradford. On the 1901 census they were living at 18 Harris Street, Bradford. Harris Street runs off Barker End Road towards Leeds Road. On the 1881 census the family were at 154 Leeds Rd. However, John Michael Dowling Worsnop, aged 31 in 1881, was then a photographer by occupation and had a different wife, Margaret, aged 29, and as well as Emily (then aged one), he had two other children, Priscilla Ann, 10, and a son called Reuben Secundus Worsnop (couldn't forget a name like that, could you!). Clearly, John Michael Dowling Worsnop had two different families by two wives, the first presumably having died. My interest lies in the fact that WILFRED WORSNOP, b. in January 1900, became quite famous as the screen and stage actor WILFRED LAWSON. Whilst not an enormous star, he made umpteen films between his screen debut in 1932 and his death in 1966. He was a wonderful character actor, appearing in mostly comic, working class roles. If you don't know his name immediately, you would recognise him the moment you saw him on screen, since his appearance was very distinctive. He was a little man with a wrinkled, gnarled face with a bulbous nose and a squeaky voice and Yorkshire accent. He was also a legendary drinker and used to go on monumental benders with acting chums like Robert Newton (Long John Silver in Treasure Island) and Donald Wolfit. Amongst his many movies, Lawson appeared briefly in the 1950s film Room at the Top from John Braine's novel, which was set in Bradford and Halifax and starred Laurence Harvey and Simone Signoret. A Google search will reveal a list of his major films. I discovered only recently that Wilfred Lawson was born Wilfred Worsnop in Bradford in 1900 and now I am just a bit curious to ascertain whether he was in any way connected to my Worsnops. I've mentioned my gt-gt-grandfather, Thomas Worsnop, the Scarborough policeman here a few times before, but I am pretty certain that his family too came from Bradford originally. It's a strong Bradford surname and Worsnops are thick on the ground there. Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith

    02/14/2003 04:33:32
    1. Re: [ BRAD] Bradford Deeds
    2. Janet Ogden
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ethel Zott" <erzott@netzero.net> To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 7:12 PM Subject: [ BRAD] Bradford Deeds Hi Ethel, you could try Registry of Deeds, Newstead Road,Wakefield. Yorkshire. dates covered, 1704-1970. This is where Deeds were Registered each time a property changed hands, if you have the date so much the better. They charge about £22-£27 these days we used to only pat for a pence for a photo copy. They have found that they can make money out of this!. However if you go yourself, you can copy the information free. IO am searching Wilkinson about this time, and have hit the Brick Wall, I also have a lists of Wills Parish registers Census etc, on Wilkinson in the Bradford & Areas If you need more help please get back to me Janet Janet Ogden Co ordinator of Bradford Family History Society and of 1891 Huddersfield Census > Hi Listers: > > My g-g-g-grandfather, Samuel Wilkinson of Bradford, was a Whitesmith, and he is listed on the Land Tax Assessments for Bradford in 1781 and 1795, as a Proprietor and Occupant of a Cottage. From 1798 thru 1804, Samuel is the Proprietor, and the Occupant is his son, Bentley Wilkinson; another Occupant is listed from 1805 - 1810. > > In 1811, Samuel Wilkinson is the Proprietor, and the Occupant is Cass & Bates. The wording in the Tax Lists from 1811 on till 1832 (I stopped copying after 1832) were: Proprietor: Samuel Wilkinson, Late; Occupant, Cass & Bates - Top of North Gate. (Sometimes only Bates is listed). Could they have been solicitors for his "estate"? > > According to these records, I surmise that Samuel Wilkinson had died about 1811, and that his Cottage was located at the top of North Gate. From early maps it shows that the road North Gate runs into Manor Row. I am trying to determine if his Cottage was part of the Bradford Manor and if there are deeds for the Manor that would show the inhabitants. > > I searched the HMC and further searched the Manor Documents Register. It came up with "Manor Name: Bradford; Honour Name: Pontefract; Parish Name: Bradford. I really don't know what step to take next. > > Can anyone give me an idea of what I may try next? I would more than appreciate any help you may give me. Thank you. > > Ethe Zott > Hebron, CT, USA > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > FLAMING will not be tolerated on this mailing list - Anyone recieving Hostile and/or Unsavoury mail should contact the List Owner and include the received mail > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    02/14/2003 03:38:25
    1. Re: [ BRAD] James WILSON 1887 Saltaire & Windhill.
    2. Janet Ogden
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "dawn bradfield (SO)" <Dawn.Bradfield@bbsrc.ac.uk> To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 1:56 PM Subject: RE: [ BRAD] James WILSON 1887 Saltaire & Windhill. Hi. here is my Mary Wilson, I have an idea that her grandfather, may have baptised his own grand children, as I found a register up to 1837, it had been sent to the PRO, at their request. It was Bridge Street Chapel, very near where these Wilson's lived in 1841, It seem the grandfather was from the Shipley area!! may be we will find out some day? Janet Descendants of Mary Wilson Generation No. 1 1. MARY3 WILSON (SAMUEL2, STEPHEN WATMUFF1) was born 1840 in Bradford, and died December 1892 in Bradford. She married JAMES HUDSON May 31, 1868 in Bradford Parish Church, son of SAMUEL HUDSON and GRACE HALL. He was born January 21, 1844 in Beamsley Yorks, and died October 25, 1903 in Bradford. More About MARY WILSON: Burial: Undercliffe More About JAMES HUDSON: Burial: October 28, 1903, Undercliffe Cemetery Christening: June 26, 1844, Halifax Parish Church Children of MARY WILSON and JAMES HUDSON are: i. CHARLOTTE4 HUDSON, b. November 14, 1868, 25 Stott Hill Place Bradford; d. 1956, Primrose Hill Huddersield; m. ISAAC WADE IMESON, Bradford Parish Church; b. June 14, 1866, West Gorton Lancs; d. November 29, 1943, Newsome Huddersfield. More About CHARLOTTE HUDSON: Burial: Newsom Parish Church Christening: September 6, 1871, Bradford Parish Church More About ISAAC WADE IMESON: Burial: December 2, 1943, Newsome Parish Church Occupation: Iron Turner Machine Fitter. ii. SAMUEL HUDSON, b. March 26, 1870, Stott Hill, Bradford .; d. April 5, 1870, 9.25 Am. Stott Hill, Bradford.. iii. JOSEPH HUDSON, b. June 23, 1871, 27 Pine St Bradford; d. Y. More About JOSEPH HUDSON: Christening: Bradford Parish Church. > HI > > I've got a Mary WILSON who married Thomas RUSHWORTH of Windhill but this was > earlier in the century - perhaps an Aunt? Later generations had WILSON as a > forename. As yet I don't know any of Mary's family - it's on the "to do" > list :D > > Bright Blessings > Dawn > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rotheram1@aol.com [mailto:Rotheram1@aol.com] > Sent: 14 February 2003 13:29 > To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ BRAD] James WILSON 1887 Saltaire & Windhill. > > > Hi List > > This is a local person on Mike's List.................any claimants > > > Date: 14/02/2003 13:08:15 GMT Standard Time > From: mike@derow.fsnet.co.uk (Michael SPENCER) > Hi list, > further Wills of folks who once lived in Yorkshire but left Wills > > in Derbyshire. Are they connected to you ? > > 1887 JAMES WILSON Saltaire and Windhill > > Thats the last of over 300 Wills left by Yorkshire folk in Derbyshire > between > 1858-1928. Hope you find someone to link up and knock a wall or two down. > Mike > > Need a Will mike@derow.fsnet.co.uk > > Hope it help someone.................. > > Jan in Bronte Country > Co-List Admin Eng-Yorks, Bradford > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus > system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Updated daily automatically. > WARNING ..... To help prevent any virus transmission DO NOT open any > attachments to this mail unless the attachment filename is quoted in my > first line of the message text > > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > Please do not just click on 'reply' - Change the subject line to describe > more accurately the subject of *your* message. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > FLAMING will not be tolerated on this mailing list - Anyone recieving Hostile and/or Unsavoury mail should contact the List Owner and include the received mail > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

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