Would love to hear from anyone researching Murgatroyd -Generations of the family were in the Horton area for most of the 1800's, early 1900's and probably are still there. James born abt 1816 and Susan (Susannah) abt 1818 are as far back as I can go. Also Greaves from Pudsey,(Joshua Snr and Joshua Jnr) -during 1800's and Rachel Walker from Manningham. I have census details for all concerned and am expecting some Marriage certificates any day now , so don't need look-ups at the moment. I just hope some of my people could belong to your family too! Please contact me if you think there is a possibility.....Interesting List! Faye. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_messenger.asp

----- Original Message ----- From: <fayedlynch@msn.com> To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 7:14 AM Subject: [ BRAD] Murgatroyd in Horton -Greaves in Pudsey Hi Faye, I have the following, + one much earlier, both married Bottomley's Very neat to your area. Regards Janet Descendants of Frederick Murgatroyd Generation No. 1 1. FREDERICK1 MURGATROYD was born 1868 in Slack End Buttershaw, and died in Y. He married LUCY ANN BOTTOMLEY May 13, 1887 in Bradford Parish Church, daughter of ARTHUR BOTTOMLEY and REBECCA RILEY. She was born March 11, 1864 in Soper Lane Shelf, and died in Y. More About LUCY ANN BOTTOMLEY: Christening: April 24, 1864, St Michael & All Angels Shelf > > Would love to hear from anyone researching Murgatroyd -Generations of the > family were in the Horton area for most of the 1800's, early 1900's and > probably are still > there. James born abt 1816 and Susan (Susannah) abt 1818 are as far back as > I can go. > Also Greaves from Pudsey,(Joshua Snr and Joshua Jnr) -during 1800's and > Rachel Walker from Manningham. I have census details for all concerned and > am expecting some Marriage certificates any day now , so don't need look-ups > at the moment. I just hope some of my people could belong to your family > too! Please contact me if you think there is a possibility.....Interesting > List! Faye. > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to > http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_messenger.asp > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > Visit http://www.genuki.org.uk/ for initial information on all > aspects of genealogy in the UK.........For the Bradford pages visit > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Bradford/index.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello Researching ancestors and descendants of : Abimelech Hainsworth b. 1769 m. Hannah Walker 1791 d. 1836, buried at Old Baptist churchyard, Farsley. Father George, Mother Hannah Busfield John Hollings b.1740 m. Mary Howgate 1776 d. 1827, buried at Old Baptist churchyard, Farsley Father Isaac, mother Sarah Wade Others linked by marriage to above: Gaunt Turner Andrews Hudson Kettlewell Johnson Booth I would be interested in contacting anyone who has these name in their family tree Margaret Lancs, UK

Hi Faye, My gg-grandmother was Margaret MURGATROYD born in Burley, Leeds in 1809. Her parents were (I think) Joshua MURGATROYD and Martha SUTCLIFFE who were married in Bradford in 1798. Joshua was born in 1778 and Martha in 1777 both in Bradford. Joshua's father was Joseph born circa 1740. A bit sketchy I know but I'm working on it. Best wishes. Tim Pickard Ottawa

[Copied from one of James Parkers books about the districts of Bradford] Men Able To Bear Arms In Wike Township. The muster or showing and vew off men of Armey men armyd able to bear theym ass well archers as other men on horse and of fote to gether with the namez and surnamez and ditusitey of their harnez vewyd and seyn in the liberty of Bradford comynly callyd Bradforddale:- Number of Armyed Men Arms. Wittem brodley,hors and harnes Bow. Wittem bukley,a horse Wittem Walker,a jake Wittem Ryddellysde,a jak,a salet and a b Wittem backinfurthe,a horse Wittem Kyrsthay,a bill John lilec,a pair of splente Arrow. Nicholas pollerd,ar Bow. Robt Walker John baracleghe Ric Hob ======================================== And---No,I haven't a clue what some of the words mean,so don't aask !!!! I wonder how many of these 'Yeomen of England'have descendents still living in 'Wike Township' Cheers-------Derek

Hello Listers, I am looking for any connection to the COOP and DENTON families at Bramley, Leeds. THOMAS COOP married MARY DENTON on 7.12.1826 at St.Peters, Leeds and they had children in the 1851 Census as follows :- Ann 20, Thomas 19 Sarah 15, Mary 12, Joseph 10, Benjamin 7, Selina 4, Oliver under 1 month . Selina Coop was my great grandmother. If you see any connection to any of these people, I would be very pleased to hear from you. Kindest regards, Derek Hindle in Tasmania, Australia..

Hi, Can anyone tell me if you can buy a CD or booklet that may have all the grave inscrptions listed in The Parish Church of St John The Evanglist Bierley in the Diocese of Bradford... I am very interested in purchasing a copy... Kind regards Lori Mitchell

"Ronald Whistance-Smith" <rwhistan@compusmart.ab.ca> wrote... > Although I had no relations involved with theatre I do have a long-standing > love affair with same. For those interested in what life in the theatre was > like, or may have been like for some in the years following WWII, the > following is probably from first hand experience. > _ Twice brightly_ by Harry Secombe. -- London : Robson Books, 1974. It was > also published in New York in 1975. > > If you can locate a copy you will, I'm sure, enjoy it very much. It takes > place in a "northern" city.> AND we surely must not forget perhaps the most classic "theatre story" of them all, The Good Companions, by Bradford's very own literary master J B PRIESTLEY, published in 1929. This, the delightful story of a touring music hall concert party, was also made into a film which occasionally crops up on the box. Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith

Thanks Roy for the Theatre list, something more for me to work on .Just got to trawl for clues now to see what my pair got up to . Have got a copy of a photo from 1918 of Dennis and Jessie so that a teacher friend can use it in school for their history. Learning about Victorian / Edwardian music hall. They will enjoy the story of the Prince's and Palace back to back set up and the problems it could cause. I'm sure they will be looking up the famous names and parents and staff will be thinking 'I remember them'. Although I'm not far from Bradford it seems a world away and not easily accessed. I did get to the Archives a couple of years ago and found Dennis's parents marriage and two burials of infant brothers.I know a lot of my family history lies' buried ' in the records. I hope something surfaces now with this entertainmant search. Valerie Nee CREEDON N Yorks

Hello Not sure whether anyone has already posted this but there is an excellent book called 'Domes of Delight' by Peter Holdsworth about the Alhambra. Published by Bradford Libraries and Information Service in 1989. I have definitely seen it on sale in Bradford Central Library recently. Regards Lynne

Mention of the Empire Music Hall brought back many memories. The first film I was ever taken to see was "Lassie' at the Empire. This was when the Empire was no longer a theatre but a cinema. Later it was to become the Alexandra Hotel. I think it then burnt down. There was a LEEDS ROAD PLAYHOUSE. I used to go to Saturday morning children's theatre there where we were supposed to learn acting. I do not know when it was built/opened but was probably too 'young' a theatre for comparison to the likes of the Alhambra. Regards Judith Kettlewell ----- Original Message ----- From: Roy Stockdill <roy@stockdillfhs.org.uk> To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 9:53 PM Subject: [ BRAD] Some early Bradford theatres > WHEN the impressario Francis Laidler decided to build the Alhambra > Theatre on a plot of land in Morley Street in 1912 (it was opened in > 1914), he was simply adding to an already flourishing Bradford > theatre scene. The cinema had not yet arrived and a night out at a > live entertainment show was still the favourite form of relaxation > for Bradfordians. Among the existing theatres were..... > > The EMPIRE MUSIC HALL in Great Horton Road, which was almost > opposite the present stage door of the Alhambra. It was opened in > 1889 and in 1912 still featured many famous entertainers - including > a young man who had made his Bradford debut in 1910. His name: > Charles Chaplin. Another favourite with audiences was the Lancashire > comic Stan Laurel (and we all know where both these luminaries ended > up). Oh, yes, and another artist to appear at the Empire was a fellow > called W C Fields. In 1917 a fire destroyed the Empire's stage and it > became a cinema. > > The PALACE THEATRE in Manchester Road, opened in 1875 and shut in > 1938, used to present rather naughty revues, but still featured some > well known artists, some on their way up and others on their way > down. > > The THEATRE ROYAL in Manningham Lane opened in 1864 and was regarded > as Bradford's "legitimate theatre", featuring tours by West End > thespian stars. It was at the Theatre Royal (as I recounted in a > previous message) that the legendary actor-manager Sir Henry Irving > made his farewell performance in Becket before being taken ill and > collapsing and dying in the foyer of the Midland Hotel. This on the > fateful night of Friday, October 13th 1905. The Theatre Royal became > a cinema in 1921 and finally closed in the 1970s. > > The PRINCE'S THEATRE in Little Horton Lane opened in 1876 and closed > in 1961. Laidler already controlled this theatre. Interestingly, the > stage of this theatre was immediately above and back to back with > that of the Palace, the two theatres facing in opposite directions, > and there were many stories of performers getting lost and stumbling > into the wrong show! > > There had once been another Bradford theatre also called the > ALHAMBRA. This opened in 1873 as a wooden circus building in Canal > Road. Then a local businessmen converted into the ALHAMBRA MUSIC > HALL, but its live was short-lived and it closed in 1875. > > There were others less celebrated including..... > > PULLAN'S MUSIC HALL in Brunswick Place, where the great comedian Dan > Leno and world-famous tightrope walker Blondin appeared. > > The STAR MUSIC HALL in Manchester Road. > > Bradford's very first proper theatre opened early in the 19th century > in Sackville Street, off Sunbridge Road. It was no more than a > converted barn, but playbills advertised it as the BRADFORD THEATRE. > It was also commonly known as THOMPSON'S THEATRE, the proprietor > being one L. S. Thompson. > > The city's first major theatre was the THEATRE ROYAL which opened in > Duke Street, off Darley Street, in 1841. It ran regularly for 20 > years but declined when the ROYAL ALEXANDRA THEATRE, opened in > Manningham Lane in 1864. The Theatre Royal was pulled down in 1867 > and the name taken by the Royal Alexandra (which became the Theatre > Royal where Sir Henry Irving gave his last performance). > > Hope this helps, Valerie! > > * Data from DOMES OF DELIGHT, a history of the Alhambra Theatre, by > Peter Holdsworth, former theatre critic of the Bradford Telegraph & > Argus. > > Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) > Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > Its expected that all subscribers to the list have a virus detection program installed. If you dont have one then please install one immediately. ***** You Know It Makes Sense ***** > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I received this fairly recently: 12. White's 1853 Directory & Gazetteer of Leeds, Bradford, Halifax, Huddersfield & Wakefield A superb example of William White's more localised directories covering Leeds, Bradford, Halifax, Huddersfield, Wakefield, Dewsbury, Heckmondwike, Bingley, Keighley, Skipton, Settle, Todmorden and roughly six hundred villages and hamlets. If the title page is to be believed it covers 'nearly one million inhabitants', we haven't counted them though! see Yorkshire directories page http://www.rod-neep.co.uk/acatalog/Archive_CD_Books_Directories_77.html Rod Neep is making various directories and census details available on CD. Seems a great idea to me. Have a look for yourself. Lots of CD's available or nearly so. I have no connection with Mr Neep except I am a satisfied customer of his Colin S Bingley, West Yorkshire

WHEN the impressario Francis Laidler decided to build the Alhambra Theatre on a plot of land in Morley Street in 1912 (it was opened in 1914), he was simply adding to an already flourishing Bradford theatre scene. The cinema had not yet arrived and a night out at a live entertainment show was still the favourite form of relaxation for Bradfordians. Among the existing theatres were..... The EMPIRE MUSIC HALL in Great Horton Road, which was almost opposite the present stage door of the Alhambra. It was opened in 1889 and in 1912 still featured many famous entertainers - including a young man who had made his Bradford debut in 1910. His name: Charles Chaplin. Another favourite with audiences was the Lancashire comic Stan Laurel (and we all know where both these luminaries ended up). Oh, yes, and another artist to appear at the Empire was a fellow called W C Fields. In 1917 a fire destroyed the Empire's stage and it became a cinema. The PALACE THEATRE in Manchester Road, opened in 1875 and shut in 1938, used to present rather naughty revues, but still featured some well known artists, some on their way up and others on their way down. The THEATRE ROYAL in Manningham Lane opened in 1864 and was regarded as Bradford's "legitimate theatre", featuring tours by West End thespian stars. It was at the Theatre Royal (as I recounted in a previous message) that the legendary actor-manager Sir Henry Irving made his farewell performance in Becket before being taken ill and collapsing and dying in the foyer of the Midland Hotel. This on the fateful night of Friday, October 13th 1905. The Theatre Royal became a cinema in 1921 and finally closed in the 1970s. The PRINCE'S THEATRE in Little Horton Lane opened in 1876 and closed in 1961. Laidler already controlled this theatre. Interestingly, the stage of this theatre was immediately above and back to back with that of the Palace, the two theatres facing in opposite directions, and there were many stories of performers getting lost and stumbling into the wrong show! There had once been another Bradford theatre also called the ALHAMBRA. This opened in 1873 as a wooden circus building in Canal Road. Then a local businessmen converted into the ALHAMBRA MUSIC HALL, but its live was short-lived and it closed in 1875. There were others less celebrated including..... PULLAN'S MUSIC HALL in Brunswick Place, where the great comedian Dan Leno and world-famous tightrope walker Blondin appeared. The STAR MUSIC HALL in Manchester Road. Bradford's very first proper theatre opened early in the 19th century in Sackville Street, off Sunbridge Road. It was no more than a converted barn, but playbills advertised it as the BRADFORD THEATRE. It was also commonly known as THOMPSON'S THEATRE, the proprietor being one L. S. Thompson. The city's first major theatre was the THEATRE ROYAL which opened in Duke Street, off Darley Street, in 1841. It ran regularly for 20 years but declined when the ROYAL ALEXANDRA THEATRE, opened in Manningham Lane in 1864. The Theatre Royal was pulled down in 1867 and the name taken by the Royal Alexandra (which became the Theatre Royal where Sir Henry Irving gave his last performance). Hope this helps, Valerie! * Data from DOMES OF DELIGHT, a history of the Alhambra Theatre, by Peter Holdsworth, former theatre critic of the Bradford Telegraph & Argus. Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith

Hi List I have an ALLISON birth name and a HARRISON census(1861) name which I think refers to the same person from Haworth. Can a local tell me how likely the pronunciation of these names could be confused? Thanks Colin New Zealand

Hi Derek I found a Ramoth Baraclough (sic), age 7 born Bradford & living in Bradford - page ID 340773. Couldn't find an Emma to go with him. Also a Romoth Barraclough aged 50 born Bradford & living in Bradford, Life Insurance Agent - page ID 1431158. Trouble is, I've forgotten how to decode the page IDs so I haven't got very much further for you. Best wishes Rosemary Ackroyd

Hi List As my family were very very musical...................perhaps some of you remember the WOOLLEY Prize Brass Band, went to Crystal Palace and won prizes. They were in and run local dance bands.....................My GtGtGrandfather James and his three sons, Tom, Harry & Bert + my Grandmother Annice who won prizes for her cornet playing. My uncle Ernest CLEWER was with some of the more modern dancebands,as a trumpeter....... after leaving the RAF............. Having great trouble finding anything out on any of this............despite searching every stage, vaudeville, music hall site...........................google etc..... Did anyone have further information...........or could they help me with any photographs.................. WOuld be every so grateful. Know Bert WOOLLEY played the 'Last Post' at the cenotaph yearly for the Remembrance Day Parade.........................................until his death. Warmest Wishes Jan in Bronte Country Co-List Admin Eng-Yorks, Bradford Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Updated daily automatically. WARNING ..... To help prevent any virus transmission DO NOT open any attachments to this mail unless the attachment filename is quoted in my first line of the message text

Same missing relative, different approach: Is anyone out there related to a John THORNTON b. 1841 Shipley, coal merchant living at 8 Copley St. on the 1881 census? Wife-Hannah b. Bradford, children: James 18, Clara 17, Lily 16, Albert 14, Davison 11 - all born in Bradford. and/or: Samuel THORNTON b. 1851 Bingley, turner in wood living at 58 Copley St., wife-Alice b. Kildwick, weaver, child Fred 6 b. Keithley. and/or: Squire THORNTON b. Farnley b. 1854 Farnley, master tailor, living at 9 Copley St., wife-Alice b. Bradford, cotton weaver. If so, please, please contact me. Thanks, Lois Blackburn in Massachusetts --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day

Is this a FAG? While Researching the KNOWLES name in Bradford I have obtained a copy of the birth certificate for JAMES KNOWLES born 09 May 1899 to parents SAMUEL KNOWLES and FLORENCE FLETCHER. James was born at 12 Jermyn Street, Bradford. I also have some other details. The family (James is 1) appear in the 1901 Census, living at 37 Barkerend Fold. Their ages then would give births around 1877 (samuel) and 1880 (florence), both born in Bradford. I also may have found Samuel when he was 5, living with mother Mary at 6 Horsfall St, Bingley, but that needs further research to confirm. The certificate and other information I have is free to anyone who can substantiate the JAMES KNOWLES is theirs. Let me know. Regards, Dave Knowles KNOWLES, HEBDEN, INGHAM, BERRY, WILKINSON, JACKSON, HUSTLER, CLAREY & NORTHEN

Although I had no relations involved with theatre I do have a long-standing love affair with same. For those interested in what life in the theatre was like, or may have been like for some in the years following WWII, the following is probably from first hand experience. _ Twice brightly_ by Harry Secombe. -- London : Robson Books, 1974. It was also published in New York in 1975. If you can locate a copy you will, I'm sure, enjoy it very much. It takes place in a "northern" city. Ron Whistance-Smith Edmonton, AB

Hi Debbie (some background after my answer), Bradford Central Library has the 1851 census card indexed in alphabetical order by Surname. I have checked this and can find no Nanson's listed at all (also checked Narson, Nauson, Nansen, Narsen and Nausen). I also checked the alphabetical surname indexes for Bingley and Leeds, with no success. I did find a Caroline Nauson in the Bradford Census but didn't get time to cross check the entry. The card index had the following information : Born Newcastle Upon Tyne (Ref Rushton, Thomas) 2307 Ed 47 Sch 74 Address 36 Burton Rd Dave Knowles ----------- I'm glad you posted to this list. If you remember we had e-mail correspondence and I said I would do this check for you in Bradford Central Library. Since then I have had a system crash and lost some data off my hard disk. I also lost all of my archived and indexed e-mails !! Anyway, good fortune that you posted as I now have your e-mail address again. -----Original Message----- From: Ziggiez@aol.com [mailto:Ziggiez@aol.com] Sent: 16 February 2003 12:17 To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ BRAD] 1851 Census Hi Could SKS check the Bradford Family History Society 1851 census index for the name NANSON. There shouldn't be more than 4 families in all of Bradford. I am looking for the film and page numbers so I can order the films at the LDS. Hope this isn't too much to ask. Thanks Debbie Massachusetts, USA ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== Please do not just click on 'reply' - Change the subject line to describe more accurately the subject of *your* message. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237