Many thanks to all you kind listers who have tried to find these 2 missing 'rellies' of mine.I've no doubt that they will turn up some day,when least expected. Best Wishes to you all----Cheers--Derek.

could SKS explain the Burgess rolls... are they tax rolls, rolls of property ownership or something else? Also, persons listed therein would be -- tenants or boarders or owners? thanks for the help Ralph NJ USA

Hello Roy and Listers Found in the Toronto Star newspaper, Saturday Feb 15/2003:- STOCKDALE, Patricia Barbara Nee:- ROBERTSON- Peacefully at Lakeridge Health Center in Uxbridge on Wednesday February 12,2003, Patricia, predeceased by her husband Oscar STOCKDALE. (and more). I could scan and e-mail the obituary to you if you are interested. All the best Clayton J. Rock The Rock Family Web:- www.pipcom.com/~cjrock

Hi List CArole has given me permission to place any of her postings which may concern Bradford onto our list......so here is one she prepared earlier. From: carole@clyde80.freeserve.co.uk (Carole Clyde) 1846 - On the 7th, 8th and 9th, of September, at the Victoria Cricket Ground Woodhouse, Leeds, there was a most exciting and interesting match at cricket between eleven of all England, versus eighteen of Yorkshire. The Yorkshire players were: R.CADMAN Esq MR. HARGREAVE MR. BARRETT and MR IBBETSON from Leeds MR. A. CROSSLAND MR. J. CROSSLAND and MR. G. BERRY from Dalton MR. J. WADE from Harewood M. J. NORTH and MR J. FAWCETT from Boroughbridge MR HALL MR. INGLE MR. BARKER MR. WADSWORTH MR. ABEL MR. BURLINSON and MR. FOSTER from Bradford MR. CHATTERTON from Wentworth. The final score was All England: first innings 102, second 125, total 227 Yorkshire: first innings, 72, second 84, total 156. the Yorkshire players therefore were vanquished by 71 runs, 63 of the score, however, being byes, wide balls, and no balls, while Yorkshire added to their score but 8 from similar balls. All the best Carole For hundreds of books on Yorkshire go to: www.regionalbooks.co.uk including books on History, Social & Economic History, Heraldry, Employment etc Also Books on the other northern counties of England. For over 100,000 Yorkshire Strays go to: http://members.lycos.co.uk/Carole_Clyde/ Yorkshire folks and their Occupations (lists of names) go to: http://members.lycos.co.uk/ykstrays/ For Lancashire Strays go to: http://members.lycos.co.uk/clydegen/ Warmest Wishes Jan in Bronte Country Co-List Admin Eng-Yorks, Bradford Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Updated daily automatically. WARNING ..... To help prevent any virus transmission DO NOT open any attachments to this mail unless the attachment filename is quoted in my first line of the message text

Hi all, I'm wanting to know how I can verify these marriages please? they are as follows:- John Bedford at Bradford, Yorks. 10 Nov.1669 to Mary Ellis. Roger Ratcliffe " " 3 Apr. 1621 to Margaret Snowden. Roger Butler " " 16 Oct. 1621. to Sibill Denton. William Butler " " 8 Jul. 1628. to IssabelWilkinson. Edward Butler " " 17 Feb. 1628/29 to Sara Rayner. John Ratcliffe " " 10 Nov. 1669. to Mary Ellis. John Butler " " 24 Feb. 1667. to Mary Meller. John Butler " " 6 May 1682. to Elizabeth Barrand. John Butler " " Feb. 1687. to Mercy Bedn. William Butler " " 5 May 1703. to Esther Hycroft. I have seen some of these partner surnames mention on our list only much later dates. Any help would be greatly appreciated.have a good day all, regards, Hilary Marks. Victoria, Australia.

Hilary Marks <roygirl@alphalink.com.au> wrote..... > Hi all, I'm wanting to know how I can verify these marriages please? > they are as follows:- > > John Bedford at Bradford, Yorks. 10 Nov.1669 to Mary Ellis. > Roger Ratcliffe " " 3 Apr. 1621 to Margaret > Snowden. > Roger Butler " " 16 Oct. 1621. to Sibill > Denton. > William Butler " " 8 Jul. 1628. to > IssabelWilkinson. > Edward Butler " " 17 Feb. 1628/29 to Sara > Rayner. > John Ratcliffe " " 10 Nov. 1669. to Mary > Ellis. > John Butler " " 24 Feb. 1667. to Mary > Meller. > John Butler " " 6 May 1682. to > Elizabeth Barrand. > John Butler " " Feb. 1687. to > Mercy Bedn. > William Butler " " 5 May 1703. to Esther > Hycroft. > I have seen some of these partner surnames mention on our list only much > later dates. Any help would be greatly appreciated.have a good day all,> I'M not entirely clear what you mean by "verify", Hilary. Where do the marriages come from? From the Bradford parish registers, perhaps? If so, could you perhaps explain what kind of verification you need? If they are in the PRs, then they took place! If what you mean is more information, then I'm afraid there won't be any more than what is in the registers. Or did you get them from the IGI, in which case the registers is the obvious place to confirm them. You should be able to borrow films of the Bradford parish church registers througha Mormon FHC, if you have one anywhere near you. Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith

Hello Listers, This interesting note appears in the parish register: "29 April 1791 William GREENWOOD was strangled in a few minutes warning at the sign of the Croft Inn in this town about midnight on Monday 25th, age 30 yrs. Let all drunkards beware of Excess in liquor. Sawood" Does this ring any bells? Best wishes to all, David Binns, Tyneside

Hello listers, Seeking information on the early years of THOMAS PARKINSON (born circa 1813/1814 in Pudsey and died August 1874 in Farsley). On 23 May 1836, he married REBECCA CRAVEN at Calverley Parish Church (St. Wilfred) and , from the parish register, he was a farmer. In August 1837, ELIZABETH was born (the first of their three known children), followed by SARAH ANN in 1844 and JOHN CRAVEN in 1850. When Elizabeth was born, they were living at Wadlands Hall. According to the publication "A Topographical Dictionary of Yorkshire" dated 1822, Wadlands was a farmhouse in the township of Calverley-with-Farsley and the parish of Calverley; 3 miles from Bradford. By 1849 it looks like Wadlands Hall may have been known as "Wadlands Grange", at least for a time. Does anyone have further information on Wadlands? Regarding Thomas and Rebecca's children:- ELIZABETH PARKINSON married ABRAHAM PAWSON in 1861 at Farsley. SARAH ANN PARKINSON married JOSEPH FARRAR (date and place unknown - but Sarah died early 1883 and it seems possible that Joseph remarried to NANCY ARMITAGE later in 1883). JOHN CRAVEN PARKINSON married ELIZABETH GOTT in 1876 at Farsley. Are the above names known to anyone? Also, any details on the birth of Thomas Parkinson would help me get through my brick wall. All help is most appreciated. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool emoticons http://messenger.msn.co.uk

The entertainments comprised selections by a string band,conducted by Mr.Wm.Waddington ; sketches by Mr.S.H.Nichol ; performances by a number of children,including a representation of the comic drama 'A Rough Diamond'; selections by the Springwell Pierrots ; and music by the polyphone & gramophone, lent by Mr.R.Barraclough. The bazaar was largely patronised each day,the nett proceeds amounted to �205,which exceeded the anticipations of the promoters. ======================================== I hope someone out there recognises some of these 'Slack Siders' of a century ago,as their loved ones ! Cheers-------Derek.

Ice-Cream Stall-- Mrs.W.Hudson,Mrs.Bateman,Mrs.W.Crowther Miss Mary Best,& Miss Hannah Shaw. Fruit Stall--- Messrs.Simeon North,Sam Wilkinson,Frank Wilkinson,Jowett Priestley,Squire Stephenson,& J.Huby. An An Oriental Cafe was in charge of Misses Laura Wilkinson,Effie Waddington,Maggie Waddington,Emma Brear,Lucy E.Newton, Martha A.Newton,Rose Ormondroyd & Sarah Hadfield. There were also a cloak room & a smoke room where ping-pong games & tournaments took place. [to be continued]

The stall-holders were as follows ;-- Fancy Needlework Stall--- Mrs.Ben North,Mrs.Arthur Kellett, Mrs.Albert Bates,& Miss Clara Yates Plain Needlework Stall-- Mrs.A.H.Barley,Mrs.Edmund Barraclough, Mrs.James North,Mrs.Joseph Clegg, Mrs.Walter Kellett,& Mrs.Ernest Priestley Refreshment Stall-- Misses Maria North,Annie North,Florence North,Lucy E.North,Rachel North and Mr.Walter North. Flower Stall--- Mrs.Albert Woodhead,Mrs.Hy.Wilkinson, Mrs.Oliver Waddington & Mrs.Albert Kellett. Toy Stall-- Mrs.Herbert Crowther,Mrs.Herbert Best & Misses Ruth Ormondroyd,Ethel Holden, Julia A.Kellett,Annie Tordoff,Marion Holden & Mary Tordoff [To be continued]

[From one of James Parker's books of districts of Bradford] A three-days'bazaar was opened in the Slack Side Wesleyan Reform School on Sat.,March 29th.1902,(the second in 20 years held at that school),the object being to reduce the debt of �300 incurred in renovating the chapel at the end of last year.The room had been tastefully adorned by the young men and women.The opening ceremony on the first day was performed by Mrs.Harry Farrar,of Shelf;and on Monday,by Mr.John Jowett of Bradford;and on Tuesday by Mr.Percy H.Illingworth of Bradford. [To be continued]

Hi Hilary, You don't mention where you got these marriages from so I presume they are family marriages and all from Bradford..... Marriages as early as that probably took place at Bradford Parish Church.... ....and I believe they have been filmed by the LDS. I would start there by ordering the films that are needed to check those dates out. There may indeed be an index that would at least verify that the marriage did indeed take place there. Then the PR would give you what was actually entered. My early marriages don't say very much and do not give parents names etc. Just a suggestion. Kindest regards. Elaine Pickard. Ottawa. Canada.

Hi Amy, My grandfather Thomas William Oates [mother's dad],bought it in 1902 as a newly published book priced at 1 shilling [ 5p by today's money]. How much it would cost today in a second hand bookshop I wouldn't know. Cheers-----Derek.

[Taken from one of James Parker's books on districts ofBradford] Principal Inhabitants of Oakenshaw 1830 Jonas Bateman,White Bear Inn Bartholomew Boddy,schoolmaster John Booth,blacksmith Thomas Swires,cattle dealer Jonas Bateman,corn miller James Bateman,farmer John Bateman,farmer Daniel Firth,farmer John Butterworth,farmer Samuel Naylor,farmer James Sugden,farmer John Sugden,farmer,and acting overseer Matthew Sugden,farmer William Sugden,farmer John Brooksbank,shopkeeper Henry Williamson,woollen manufacturer Joseph Sugden,woolstapler Wm.Green,worsted manufacturer ======================================== As this list pre-dates the 1st.census by 11 years,it might interest someone, Cheers--------Derek

-------Original Message------- From: cchild@actrix.co.nz ************ Please use this e-mail address Date: February 15, 2003 02:33:26 PM To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L-request@rootsweb.com Subject: Allison/Harrison pronunciation Hi List I have an ALLISON birth name and a HARRISON census(1861) name which I think refers to the same person from Haworth. Can a local tell me how likely the pronunciation of these names could be confused? Thanks Colin New Zealand .

Hello all, I have been watching the "Wyke lists" that Derek has been sending out with interest as I have ancestors in Wyke from about 1825. If any Hollands are in any other lists I would be keen to hear about them. I have sent a couple of messages but I sent them to the Yorks list by mistake, so thanks to Dave Jassie for redirecting them. Pat

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Principal Inhabitants of Wike in 1830. [From one of James Parker's books on the Districts of Bradford,1902] Sarah Atkinson,currier Saml.Birkby,butcher Ricd.& Mary Birkby,Furnace Inn Joseph Boothroyd,Day School John Breaks,tailor Benjaim (sic) Brooke,blacksmith Anthony Collins,Red Lion Inn Rev.W.Edwards,Minister of the United Brethren Rev.Benjm.Firth,Independent minister Ann La Trove,Ladies Boarding School John Marsden,wheelwright Abm.Rogers,coalowner Benjm.Scholefield,joiner,etc. Joshua Sellers,gentlemen (sic) Wm.Sellers,gentleman Saml.Winpenny,Robin Hood & Little John Inn Geo.Eastwood,card maker Thos.Sellers & Sons,card makers Bateman & Briggs,corn dealers & millers Simon Briggs,corn dealer etc. John Hodgson,corn dealer etc. John Holdsworth,malster Thos.Briggs,shopkeeper Rueben Firth,shopkeeper & shoemaker Jonathan Taylor,shopkeeper Elizabeth Thornton,shopkeeper ======================================== As this list pre-dates the 1st.Census by 11 years,someone might find something of interest in it. Cheers------Derek.

Hi All - thanks Roy, and everyone else, my Mum will be thrilled I know. Cheers, Mal. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mal Pace To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 3:34 PM Subject: Posting on Wilfrid Lawson please! Hi All, I moused delete instead of print (twit!) so would SKS please forward Roy's article on Wilfrid Lawson - one of my mother's favourite actors and she would love to read it I'm sure. Thanks, Mal.