... but then you start the on going debate of "with" or "before" the main roast beef dinner.... personnally it depends on how well I've timed the rest of the meal - if they aren't ready before then you get them with the main meal, otherwise they appear as a "starter" (traditionalist always have them first - they make you full therefore you don't eat as much of the "expensive " meat!) but then again some people eat them with jam as a dessert! (<YUK>) Bright Blessings Dawn (Swindon in the dark!) -----Original Message----- From: etpickard To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: 01/03/03 19:04 Subject: Re: [ BRAD] Non Gen: Yorkshire Pudding & Duchess Sarah Hi Vicky, I think I can speak for most people "If you like them they are usually eaten with most beef dishes" i.e. roasts and stews or alone with a good gravy, and by all "Classes". Just the same as the pop-over in the states....You either like or hate them. Regards. Elaine Pickard. Ottawa. Canada. List Admin Bradford Mailing List. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 25/02/03 ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== Please NO VIRUS warnings or OFF TOPIC messages on this List. Any warnings regarding a virus please send them to the list admin who will decide if the warning should be posted. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

---I was born in Yorkshire, Halifax to be precise and was brought up to have Yorkshire Pudding with any roast meat. When my eldest daughter was 3 years old we visited my parents and were treated to a roast dinner. A few days later Eleanor, out of the blue commented that she had really enjoyed those "bouncing potatoes" that she'd eaten at Grandma's. It took some time to establish what had been my daughter's first encounter with that Yorkshire delicacy. Needless to say they continue to be known as bouncing potatoes in our household to this day, - Ellie is now 15 and embarrased by this! Christmas roast turkey would certainly noit be complete without them. BTW I would certainly say that I was working class by birth, but they can be served by the likes of Gary Rhodes today in the most high class retaurants in London!!! Susan - Original Message ----- From: "etpickard" <etpickard@rogers.com> To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [ BRAD] Non Gen: Yorkshire Pudding & Duchess Sarah > Hi Vicky, > > I think I can speak for most people "If you like them they are usually eaten > with most beef dishes" i.e. roasts and stews or alone with a good gravy, and > by all "Classes". > > Just the same as the pop-over in the states....You either like or hate them. > > Regards. > Elaine Pickard. Ottawa. Canada. > List Admin Bradford Mailing List. > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 25/02/03 > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > Please NO VIRUS warnings or OFF TOPIC messages on this List. Any warnings regarding a virus please send them to the list admin who will decide if the warning should be posted. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Am Looking for a Caroline Humphreys, born in 1831. She married a Thomas Beaumont from Elland.

I am searching for any information on a Caroline Humphreys born (I think) 10-15-1818 in Bradford.Christened 07-15-1821. Thank you, Phyllis, Ind., USA

Hi Listers, I have just received the Will for Francis Mitchell 1779-1842 and I would like to see if someone can take a look at the 1841 census for a Henry Mitchell - Manchester Road , Horton..He would be aged around 41. He was Christened in Bradford in 17th July 1799. He was the eldest son of Francis Mitchell Kind regards Lori Mitchell

Hi Listers, Please note the new email address for me.... trimel1@bigpond.net.au Kind regards Lori Mitchell

Hi Vicky, I think I can speak for most people "If you like them they are usually eaten with most beef dishes" i.e. roasts and stews or alone with a good gravy, and by all "Classes". Just the same as the pop-over in the states....You either like or hate them. Regards. Elaine Pickard. Ottawa. Canada. List Admin Bradford Mailing List. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 25/02/03

I don't want to start a long thread on Yorkshire Pudding here, just wondering about customs in the UK. I watch advertisements for Weight Watchers with Sarah, the duchess of york as the spokesperson. It makes me wonder. Is Yorkshire Pudding enjoyed by all classes or just the working class? Thanks for satisfying my curiosity, Vicky

Thanks Jan that's just given me the answer to one of the crossword clues in this months Dalesman Magazine!!! :D Bright Blessings Dawn -----Original Message----- From: Rotheram1@aol.com To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: 28/02/03 23:34 Subject: [ BRAD] Keighley area Hi Listers.... Thought I should give you a brief insight into the are I live in....especially for those of use overseas...... Keighley's Coat of Arms features the words BY WORTH - one of it's two Rivers the Worth & the Aire. Some of the smaller hamlets around Keighley being.....Keighley - Lund Park - Exley Head - Bogthorn - Lidget - Oakworth....... Keighley - Beechcliffe - Utley - Steeton - Eastburn - Sutton - Crosshills - Glusburn - Keighley is a town of some 60,000 population in 1997........it is about 400 feet above sea level. Keighley (pronounced "Keith-ley"), an industrial town in West Yorkshire's <A HREF="http://www.bronte-country.com/aire-valley.html">Aire Valley</A>, just north of <A HREF="http://www.bronte-country.com/bingley.html">Bingley</A> (5 miles) and the city of <A HREF="http://www.city-of-bradford.com/"> Bradford</A> (10 miles). Keighley is perhaps most famous among steam enthusiasts for its railway station - terminus of the <A HREF="http://www.bronte-country.com/kwvr.html">Keighley and Worth Valley Railway</A>, it is a lovingly restored steam railway. Steam trains leave regularly from Keighley along the railway, which leads west along the Worth Valley up Ingrow and Damens, to the villages of Oakworth, <A HREF="http://www.haworth.yorks.com/">Haworth</A> (famous for its association with the Brontes) and <A HREF="http://www.bronte-country.com/oxenhope.html">Oxenhope</A> in the heart of West Yorkshire's <A HREF="http://www.bronte-country.com/">Bronte Country </A> where it terminates.Other local attractions include Cliffe Castle Museum, and <A HREF="http://www.bronte-country.com/east-riddlesden-hall.html">East Riddlesden Hall</A>, a seventeenth century merchant's house. To the north the main route leads on up the Aire Valley to <A HREF="http://www.yorkshire-dales.com/skipton.html">Skipton</A> (10 miles) a bustling market town and gateway to the beautiful <A HREF="http://www.yorkshire-dales.com/">Yorkshire Dales</A> national park. The Leeds to Liverpool Canal served the town in the last century and is now regularly used by narrow boats. Jan in Bronte Country Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.437/ Virus Database: 245 - Release Date: 06.01.2003 WARNING ..... To help prevent any virus transmission DO NOT open any attachments to this mail unless the attachment filename is quoted in my first line of the message text ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== Visit http://www.genuki.org.uk/ for initial information on all aspects of genealogy in the UK.........For the Bradford pages visit http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Bradford/index.html ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Thanks Irene <grin> now another question.... Is anyone going to be in the vicinity of Keighley Library with a bit of time on their hands? <grin, duck and run> Bright Blessings Dawn (in wet and windy Swindon) -----Original Message----- From: Irene Cardwell To: dawn bradfield (SO) Sent: 28/02/03 17:22 Subject: Re: [ BRAD] North Bierley Union Workhouse, Clayton Hello Dawn Just to let you know (if you don't know already) that Keighley Reference Library have the North Bierley union records. There may be a mention of Abraham 's death in them. Regards Irene. ----- Original Message ----- From: "dawn bradfield (SO)" <Dawn.Bradfield@bbsrc.ac.uk> To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 3:28 PM Subject: [ BRAD] North Bierley Union Workhouse, Clayton > Hi All > > I've got a relative as an inmate at the above establishment in the 1881 > census: > > Abraham FEATHER > Birth Year <1831> > Birthplace Howarth, York, England > Age 50 Occupation Outdoor Labourer > Marital Status U <Unmarried> > > I've checked the 1901 census - not on there > I've checked the FreeBMD for a death - nothing that is even a slight > possibility. > > Does anyone know : > 1. When this workhouse closed > 2. Where inmates were buried if they died in "captivity" > > It's not desperate that I know this information - just to tidy up a few > loose ends and for completeness of data but I've been looking for the old > lad for ages (well his parents are a bit of a brick wall too - Robert and > Betty FEATHER (nee HOLMES) of Thornton,both born circa 1808 at > Oxenhope/.Haworth, married in 1832 at Bradford Cathedral, last seen on the > 1851 census at New Halifax, Thornton - abducted by aliens sometime after > perhaps?). > Other Children of this marriage: > 1.Abraham (as above) > 2.Edwin b. 1836 (was a Green Grocer at Lane Side, Thornton, married to > Sarah) > 3.Margaret Ann b.1839 (poss. married into a TETLEY family) > 5. Susannah b. 1845 (poss. married Charnock WOOD) > 6.John b.1847 (married Jane SAVILLE) > > Bright Blessings > Dawn > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > Please do not just click on 'reply' - Change the subject line to describe more accurately the subject of *your* message. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hello Listers, Would SKS be able to help me with the Jones family in 1891. Several years ago I found them at Cross Roads, Bingley (which is, I believe, actually as near Haworth as it's possible to get) but in my innocence of those days I did not make a complete record of what I saw. Please would you confirm that the record contains this transcribed information and add anything which is missing from my transcription: 86 Cross Roads, Bingley. Thomas Jones Head Age 48 Bricklayers Labourer, born Gloucestershire Ann Jones Wife Age 58, Born Coventry, Warwickshire Sarah Ann Jones Daughter 22 Worsted Winder, born Monmouthshire Elizabeth Daughter 19 Worsted Twister, born Hanley, Staffordshire Thanks for your help. Best wishes David Binns, Tyneside

POSTING INTERESTS Hello Listers, I am just posting interests for the benefit of anyone new on the list with similar interests. Pleased to hear from anyone with connections to any of the following families. Kindest Regards, Derek Hindle in Tasmania, Australia.. HINDLE - Bramley/Leeds,Cowling/ Kildwick, Keighley, Yorks. any eriod COE - Wibsey, Pudsey, Bradford. 1800's COOP - Bramley, Leeds. from 1826 - present day CHAMBERLAIN - Stanningley, Yorks. Whaplode Drove, near palding, Lincs.(1840)1830 Thorney, Cambridgeshire. MEADOWS - Thorney, Cambridgeshire c.1830 DENTON - Bramley, Leeds pre 1826. FARRAR - pre 1800 Bramley, Leeds. ELLIS - Leeds 1776. THORNTON - Cowling, Kildwick, Yorks. pre 1840. SMITH - Cowling, Kildwick, Yorks. pre 1813 HOPKINSON - Cowling, Kildwick, Yorks.pre 1781 RHODES - Cowling, Kildwick, Keighley. Yorks. pre 1751. DAWSON - Cowling, Kildwick pre 1813 SNOWDEN - Cowling, Kildwick. pre 1805 BINNS - Ickornshaw,Cowling, Kildwick. pre 1795. Uttley, Keighley pre 1784 WOOLER - Cowling, Kildwick. pre 1786. DAVISON - Bramley, Leeds c. 1871. WAITE - Bramley, Leeds,1881, 1891 BRADLEY - Bramley, Leeds 1881 TURNER - Bramley, Leeds 1881 BERRY - Bramley, Leeds,1881 LAYCOCK - Cowling, Kildwick, pre 1785. TEMPEST- Cowling, Kildwick, pre 1757. PARKINSON - Farsley cum Calverley pre 1841. MIDGLEY - Farsley cum Calverley, 1841- Pudsey 1812. HORN - Farsley cum Calverley, pre 1803. WHITELEY - Farsley cum Calverley 1832.

Hi List, I am researching the surname CAWTHRAY in the Bradford/Tong areas . If anyone has any intersts in this surname please get in touch. So far not had much luck in trying to trace Alfred CAWTHRAY b 1844 Tong, son of William CAWTHRAY/CAUTHRA b abt 1808 Tong. If any kind soul who may be going to Bradford Library anytime, please could they look up Alfred CAWTHRAY b 1844 Tong, on the 1851 census for Tong. Parents as far as I know were William and Susannah, but I may be wrong, so any Alfred's listed would be most useful. No details of any siblings, but as I believe Alfred's parents were married in 1826, there should be a few. Thanks very much, Bob Bond

Hi Lori, Welcome back to the list.......... Such a pain this being bounced. Maybe your new server will not have the problem. MSN seems to be the biggest problem and some of the hotmail addresses. I seem to have about 20 bounced messages a day. Four bounces and Rootsweb automatically unsubscribes you. Regards. Elaine Pickard. Ottawa. Canada. List Admin Bradford Mailing List. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 25/02/03

Just to let those of you with an interest in the BENTLEY surname from the West Riding of Yorkshire, know that I have just updated my website with more information. Link in my signature. Happy hunting! Martin Bentley PS - there are a couple of photos of St. Mary's at Wyke for those interested __________________________________________________________ If you have BENTLEY in the West Riding of Yorkshire in your family tree - Check out my website at www.westridingbentley.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk __________________________________________________________ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.458 / Virus Database: 257 - Release Date: 2/25/2003

Thought everyone might be interested in the following. Kind regards Judith Kettlewell ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Hartas <ian@hartas.org> To: <YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 8:22 PM Subject: [YKS] Yorkshire BMD - Leeds Deaths > Dear all, > The first proper batch of deaths indexes have been added to Yorkshire BMD. > Covering Leeds district, 1837 to 1840. A small start, but better than the 3 odd > ones that were there before ! There's even a STOCKDILL for Roy, in Morley. > > http://www.YorkshireBMD.org.uk > > I've tried to detail basic information about the areas covered on the site itself, but > my knowledge of Leeds is a blurred memory of the student pubs I inhabited when I > was there 25 years ago. ;-)') > > The areas in this batch are: > Aberford, Ardsley, Baildon, Bramham, Calverley, > Chapeltown, Fewston, Harewood, Holbeck, Hunslet, > Kippax, Kirkstall, Morley, Leeds North, South and West, > Otley, Oulton, Pudsey, Rothwell, Wetherby, Whitkirk, > Wortley & Yeadon. > > Please forward to any other West Riding list that you believe may be interested > in this information. > > -- > regards, > Ian Hartas > ---------------------------------- > The software said install Windows 98 or better. > So I installed Linux... > ---------------------------------- > > > > ==== YORKSGEN Mailing List ==== > Origins: English, Scottish and Irish genealogical data for online family history research: > http://www.origins.net/ >

Hi Listers.... Thought I should give you a brief insight into the are I live in....especially for those of use overseas...... Keighley's Coat of Arms features the words BY WORTH - one of it's two Rivers the Worth & the Aire. Some of the smaller hamlets around Keighley being.....Keighley - Lund Park - Exley Head - Bogthorn - Lidget - Oakworth....... Keighley - Beechcliffe - Utley - Steeton - Eastburn - Sutton - Crosshills - Glusburn - Keighley is a town of some 60,000 population in 1997........it is about 400 feet above sea level. Keighley (pronounced "Keith-ley"), an industrial town in West Yorkshire's <A HREF="http://www.bronte-country.com/aire-valley.html">Aire Valley</A>, just north of <A HREF="http://www.bronte-country.com/bingley.html">Bingley</A> (5 miles) and the city of <A HREF="http://www.city-of-bradford.com/"> Bradford</A> (10 miles). Keighley is perhaps most famous among steam enthusiasts for its railway station - terminus of the <A HREF="http://www.bronte-country.com/kwvr.html">Keighley and Worth Valley Railway</A>, it is a lovingly restored steam railway. Steam trains leave regularly from Keighley along the railway, which leads west along the Worth Valley up Ingrow and Damens, to the villages of Oakworth, <A HREF="http://www.haworth.yorks.com/">Haworth</A> (famous for its association with the Brontes) and <A HREF="http://www.bronte-country.com/oxenhope.html">Oxenhope</A> in the heart of West Yorkshire's <A HREF="http://www.bronte-country.com/">Bronte Country </A> where it terminates.Other local attractions include Cliffe Castle Museum, and <A HREF="http://www.bronte-country.com/east-riddlesden-hall.html">East Riddlesden Hall</A>, a seventeenth century merchant's house. To the north the main route leads on up the Aire Valley to <A HREF="http://www.yorkshire-dales.com/skipton.html">Skipton</A> (10 miles) a bustling market town and gateway to the beautiful <A HREF="http://www.yorkshire-dales.com/">Yorkshire Dales</A> national park. The Leeds to Liverpool Canal served the town in the last century and is now regularly used by narrow boats. Jan in Bronte Country Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.437/ Virus Database: 245 - Release Date: 06.01.2003 WARNING ..... To help prevent any virus transmission DO NOT open any attachments to this mail unless the attachment filename is quoted in my first line of the message text

As no-one was able to help me on this, does anyone know in which area of Bradford I might find Southfield Place? Thank you ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Elliott" <meelliott@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 12:02 AM Subject: [ BRAD] BREAR > Yesterday's posting of deaths from the newspaper may have provided the breakthrough I desperately needed. Included was the death of the twelve year old daughter of one of my particularly elusive ancestors, David Brear. > > Please can anyone with access to the 1851 cenus look at Southfield Place and see if there is a David Brear living there with his wife Mary and family. He was in Belgrave Place Manningham in 1849, and in Hanover Square in 1858, (but not in 1861) so he obviously moved a lot, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed......... > > Thank you > Margaret > Switzerland > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > The Mailing List Archives are at:- > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ENG-YKS-BRADFORD > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ENG-YKS-BRADFORD > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Two marriages from the Bradford Observer - March 1856. The name of the church is missing from the top of the page but otherwise it is complete. Joseph, second son of Mr George LAURENCE, of Clitheroe House Academy, East Keswick, to Eliza, daughter of the late Mr George STEAD, ironfounder, Cleckheaton. Vicar, W M Heald. On Tuesday week, at the parish church, Batley, by the Rev. A. Cassels, Mr Fred MARRIOTT, chemist, to Jane, youngest daughter of Mr Richard NEWSOME, manufacturer, all of Batley. Kind regards Judith K.

Back again with a few more. Bradford Observer March 1856 Same day at Manningham, after a short illness, Mr John COWGILL, butcher, of Bingley. Same day, aged 33, Mr John CRAVEN, of Cullingworth near Bingley. Same day, aged 64, Mrs Arabella WILD, of Chapel Lane, Bingley. Same day, at his residence, Gledhow Mount, near Leeds, aged 57, John WILKINSON esq, one of the Justices of the Peace for the borough of Loeds. On Tuesday week, aged 64, Mr Eli CLEGG, farm labourer, Jacob's Fold, Horton. Same day at the Union Workhouse, aged 31, Hugh MacNAMARA, mason's labourer. Same day, of cancer, Hannah, wife of Archdeacon LONG, of Setterington near Malton. Same day, at the Deanery, Carlisle [within a week of her elder sister], in her 2nd year, Susan Elizabeth Campbell, fourth surviving daughter of the Very Rev. Dr TAIT, Dean of Carlisle. Same day, aged 72, after a long illness, Mr John Baptist LOMBARDINI, of Huddersfield. On Monday week, at Castlebar, aged 78, The Hon. Frederick CAVENDISH, son of the Right Hon. Sir Henry CAVENDISH and Sarah, Baroness of Waterpark. On Sunday week, aged 43, Mary, wife of Mr Jas. HIGSON, bookseller, Shipley. That is all the deaths on this page. Kind regards Judith K.