Hello again Lynda, Chrissy and anyone who may have struggled with 1841 census on CDs. This has helped me. The only thing I cannot get is because my expectation was wrong. No street index for finding. You do have the enumerators notes to read through if you can somehow locate the area you want. I do not know Bradford and put in East End Bradford. It only responds to Bradford East. That sort of problem I will I hope gradually learn to tackle. Cannot understand why there is not a bit more in the notes with the CDs. ie instead of several districts called ' Bradford part of' it would really help to be told which part. However 5 Cds is not impossible to work through I guess. Might contact them about that. So back to my search . Thanks to Joyce and good hunting to everyone on the WRY trail. Valerie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Battersby" <j.batt@blueyonder.co.uk> To: "vgilbert" <vgilbert@supanet.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:04 AM Subject: Re: [ BRAD] 1841 and 1851 census Bradford > Hi Valerie, > > If you are opening the c.d,s in the normal way,you can sometimes have a > problem & places that should be there on the index aren,t. > Try this way; > > Open Internet Explorer,BUT do not connect to internet. > IF title page comes up for the c.d,s just exit that page ,as thogh you are > closing the c.d. > Left click file; > Left click open;A box appears; > Left click browse; > Left click my computor; > RIGHT click on the disc you have inserted,then Left click open; > You then get all little yellow boxes,scroll down until you see index; > RIGHT click on index,then Left click on open. > Your acrobat reader has opened up the index, > On the top line,go to the binoculars,LEFT click & a box appears,type name in > of place you want,the click find. > IF it is on that c.d it shows you the folio it is in. > Wakefield is in Disc 1; piece number 1271 & 1272; > If you click on the names on the page in front of you it takes you to that > part of disc,BUT sometimes it doesn,t seem to work right. > I take note of number( say 1271);click cross on top of page; > it takes you back to the cd index page,as before. > Then just RIGHT click on the yellow box numbered 1271 & open. > Vicar Lane is in 4 seperate pieces,read the index at the beginning of each > folio & it tells you the street names.There can be upto 4 folios in each > piece. > If you have any problems with any of this just let me know. > Sorry its been so long,but I tried to explain properley. > > Best wishes, > Joyce > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "vgilbert" <vgilbert@supanet.com> > To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:43 PM > Subject: [ BRAD] 1841 and 1851 census Bradford > > > > I'm hoping someone can help me with this. I have bought the West Riding > 1841 census CDs but struggle with them and have no success on this search. > some images are illegible , I don't seem to be able to work out the index > either. So I'm begging for help. I have a William MALTBY and Mary Ann his > wife, possibly two or more children living in Vicar Lane Bradford in 1840. > I've worked out that Vicar lane is probably East End and the > Brad.Fam.Hist.Soc. index does have a MALTBY in that area 1841. Guidance > please on finding it on my CD or failing that anyone able to look at a > different film of the census ? > > I know there is a card index for 1851 but I cannot get to it in Bradford > Library to check if the family is still there (or where?) I expect the > children to be John and Martha If they are found in 1851 I could probably > find parents birthplaces. This would really help a lot. > > Very grateful for any help you can give. > > Valerie N Yorks > > > > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > > Please do not just click on 'reply' - Change the subject line to describe > more accurately the subject of *your* message. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Hi List A few more names for you F & J MOORE, Town Hall Garage, Alice Street, Keighley. Dearest car on here was a Mayfair Limousine at £650...........cheapest was an Austin open road tourer at £112 Halifax Building Society 91 Cavendish Street, Keighley. District Manager. J A BOLTON FCCS Wines & Spirits E & T WALL Ltd, Wellington Buildings, Keighley. Established 1823 W H BURNS & Sons, 116 East Parade, Keighley....advertises Challen the Triumphant British piano from 50 guineas. John HAMMOND Coal Merchant, Scott Street, Keighley. Coal from ALL the leading collieries. BOTTOMLEY's Special Treacle Toffee - made from pure cane sugar, best butter and finest treacle 4d quarter. BOTTOMLEY's Gold Medal Mint Rock, warms soothes and assists breathing. 4d a quarter VICKER's Lovely lingerie with dainty embroideries in gay colours. 65-67 North Street, Keighley Frances BRADLEY Exclusive gowns, suits and millinery, 9 Cavendish Street, Keighley. G FEATHER & Sons, The Optical House, 100 Cavendish Street, Keighley, Optical Service 50 years of eyesight examination and spectacle fitting. Mr E A FEATHER FSMC, FBOA,, Mr H S FEATHER FSMC, FBOA Thomas MERRALLs Established 1851, Footwear, 72 Cavendish Street, Keighley. PEARCEY's specialist in different attire for the menfolk. 113 Cavendish Street, Keighley (opposite church) Producer H Flockton FOSTER Dramatic Personae Rhoda HEAP Eric B BROSTER Edith CLARKE Ernest MARSDEN W Lupton BROOKS Margaret BEST Arthur DAY Alan PETTY John MITCHELL Clifford HEAP Fred GILLOTT Albert E SHEPHERD Harry MOORE Gentlemen of the Chorus G BAILEY, J W BALDWIN, F BLADES, F BOND, W CARTER, H GILL, F GREENWOOD. A C HAFFNER, E HARDMAN, J LYTH, J MOORE, C H MURGATROYD, J PRESTON, R REED, C SPENCER, D SMITH Ladies of the Chorus L BURROUGHS, M CLARKE, C CARR, H CLAPPERTON, C CHAPMAN, G CRAVEN, R DAY, M HAGGAS, W HIBBERD, A HARDACRE, D HOGARTH, M HUNTER, M KENEALY, K LYNE, I LUND, A MORLEY, F MORLEY, M E MITCHELL, M MIDGLEY, B PHILLIPS, M REILLY, M RAISTRICK, E RIMMINGTON, D SLINGSBY, A SMITH, P TURNER, E WELLS. Warmest Wishes Jan in Bronte Country Co-List Admin Eng-Yorks, Bradford Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Updated daily automatically. WARNING ..... To help prevent any virus transmission DO NOT open any attachments to this mail unless the attachment filename is quoted in my first line of the message text

Another of Carole wonder snippets.......... From: carole@clyde80.freeserve.co.uk (Carole Clyde) Hi All A few snippets relating to sharp practice etc., FORESTALLERS IMPRISONED - SKIPTON 1552 - 12th July, Three men from Skipton: Roger BAKER Robert JACKMAN and his brother Richard JACKMAN were brought before the Lord Mayor and Council at York on this date, charged with the crime of forestalling, the selling or buying of goods before they reached the market. Robert BECKWITH, Merchant Richard BURDEN Thomas MASTERS, Sadler, and Robert NEWBIGINN, Shoemaker, Witnessed the accused men, stop and appear to make a deal with, James ILLERSON, a Maltman, from Pocklington, before he reached the market with his goods. The Lord Mayor decided the three accused men were guilty and sentenced them to seven days imprisonment. The Maltman, ILLERSON, was set free. FORESTALLING AND ENGROSSING 1800- October. At the Otley Sessions, in October, three great forestallers were tried and punished, viz; David OLIVER, of Lindley, and Thomas WALL, of Addingham, for forestalling wheat and shelling, each fined £20; and Samuel WIGNALL of Keighley, for engrossing butter.' imprisoned for one month at Wakefield and fined £40. STINKING MEAT - YORK 1553 - 14th April, A butcher named Bernard HORNER Was brought before the Lord Mayor and Council at York accused of putting to sale 'corrupt and stynkynge fleshe' for which HORNER was committed to prison, 'there to remain at my Lord Maiours pleasuer' for his 'neglygens and slaknes' in allowing the meat to be offered for sale. Two gild searchers, Simon FOXGATE and John SMITH who failed to prevent this offence were also sent to prison for neglecting their duty. POISON PEPPERMINTS - BRADFORD 1858 - November 1st, the town of Bradford was this day thrown into a state of great excitement, by the discovery that several persons had died and a great number of others were ill from the effects of eating peppermint lozenges, which had been sold in the market by a person named William HARDAKER. It appeared that HARDAKER had purchased the lozenges from Joseph NEAL, a wholesale confectioner in Stone Street. Mr. NEAL in the manufacture of lozenges was in the habit lf mixing with the sugar a quantity of what is called 'daft,' in a chemical language it would be called sulphate of lime, and is popularly known as plaster of paris, or gypsum. Mr. NEAL sent to the shop of Mr. HODGSON, druggist, of Shipley, for some 'daft' but Mr. HODGSON was ill and a young man in his employ named William GODDARD, not knowing where to find the article made enquiry of the master, who directed him to a cask in one corner of the cellar. The young man went into the cellar, and by mistake, insteadof supplying the applicant with 12lbs of 'daft', gave him 12lbs of arsenic. Unfortunately the 12lbs of arsenic was mixed with 40lbs of sugar, and 4lbs of gum into lozenges. 40lbs of lozenges were sold to HARDAKER, who sold 5lbs retail in the Bradford market the same night. Each lozenge, it is supposed would contain 9 and one half grains of arsenic, and as 4and one half grains are considered to be a poisonous dose, each lozenge was sufficient to poison two persons. As the lozenge weighed at the rate of 16 to the ounce, there was sufficient poison distributed in the shape of lozenges by HARDAKER as would kill nearly 2,000 reckoning 12 ounces to the pound. The consequences therefore might have been more fearful, as it was however, the poisoning caused about 200 others to be ill. HODGSON, GODDARD and NEAL, were taken into custody and committed on a charge of manslaughter. The prosecution was subsequently withdrawn as against GODDARD and NEAL, and on HODGSON being tried on the 21st of December, at York, he was acquitted. All the best Carole Jan in Bronte Country Co-List Admin Eng-Yorks, Bradford Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Updated daily automatically. WARNING ..... To help prevent any virus transmission DO NOT open any attachments to this mail unless the attachment filename is quoted in my first line of the message text

Has there been a problem with the list? I suddenly found I wasn't receiving mail from the Bradford list, then I found I wasn't a member any more. Regards Shirley J. North Yorkshire England

Hi Listers....... Hope you are finding these interesting HUDSON High Class Grocers & provision Merchants, 41 Highfield Lane, Keighley. Eric B BROSTER, Men's Wear, 88 Low Street, Keighley Officials. President - His Worshipful The Mayor Chairman of the Committee...................Mr Percy TAYLOR Hon. Musical Director...........................Mr R Lewis SCARGILL Hon Choral Master...............................Mr Albert E SHEPHERD Hon Accompanist................................Miss Lily WOOLARD Hon Asst Accompanist........................Miss Lilian CLEWER ( My Mum) Hon General Secretary........................ Mr GH BEST Hon Asst Secretary.............................Mr Alan PETTY Hon Treasurer.....................................Mr PR SHACKLETON Hon Auditor........................................Mr Wm SUNDERLAND Hon Stage Manager............................Mr A H PRESTON Hon Prompter.....................................Mr EC SMITH Hon Wardrobe Master & Mistress........Mr & Mrs Chas WOOD Hon Property Master...........................Mr Martin Ford Executive Committee Messrs, P TAYLOR, E MOUNTAIN, T I BOTTOMLEY, J HARKER, A PETTY, W MITCHELL, H SCARGILL, J CATTERSON, A H SHEPHERD, A B HIRD, O HILL, P R SHACKLETON, G H BEST. For a good and discriminating pipe tobacco try CLURES Perique Mixture. 1/1d per ounce. J H CLURE & Son, 91 Low Street, Keighley. Luncheons, Teas, Suppers The Clifton Cafe, Confectioners & Caterers. 77 Cavendish Street, Keighley Warmest Wishes Jan in Bronte Country Co-List Admin Eng-Yorks, Bradford Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Updated daily automatically. WARNING ..... To help prevent any virus transmission DO NOT open any attachments to this mail unless the attachment filename is quoted in my first line of the message text

Hi List Will do these a few names at a time, so as not to send big e-mails and blocking mail boxes. Hope this helps some of you, will name the people in the show etc........AND also the adverts for various shops. The show was Sybil - performed on February 15 to 20 1937 at the Hippodrome, Keighley by Keighley Amateur Operatic and Dramatic Society. There are photographs of some of the people.............if you are interested will scan them for you. Gowns of Distinction.............Keighley & Wilkins (1930) Ltd 1 Low St & 2 North Street (on a corner) The Mayor & MAyoress Thomas WARDLE JP & Mrs WARDLE Guarantors. Mr JW AMBLER Mr EH GREENWOOD Mr J BOTTOMLEY Sir James E HAGGAS Mr WA BRIGG Sir Donald HORSFALL Bart Mr JW BOOTH Mr J HENDERSON Mr TI BOTTOMLEY Mr H HARDAKER Dr JP BERRY Mr AR HARRISON Sir Robert CLOUGH Mr JH HEATON Mr HS CLOUGH Mr Jos HARKER Mrs Sam CLOUGH Dr HM HOLT Mr JW DUNDERDALE Mr HM HOLLAND FRCVS Mr F DICKINSON Mr JH JOHNSON Mr A DAY Mr WB JOHNSON Mr R EDMONDSON Mr Francis LAIDLER Mr J GRANGER Mr RV MARRINER Mr F Marshall Mr HM MERALL Mr E MERRALL Mr W MITCHELL Mr H PEARSON Mr A PETTY Dr J PRENTICE Mr David RHODES Mr JR STELL Mr Chas F SHEWELL Mr H SCARGILL Mr P TAYLOR * Personal comment here.....I do know a lot of these names were prominent business men....usually in the woollen industry. Warmest Wishes Jan in Bronte Country Co-List Admin Eng-Yorks, Bradford Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Updated daily automatically. WARNING ..... To help prevent any virus transmission DO NOT open any attachments to this mail unless the attachment filename is quoted in my first line of the message text

Hi Everyone, I am enquiring about a marriage between Abraham Mitchell and Elizabeth Sutcliffe. Sept QRT 1852. Bradford, York. Abraham was a Mohair Spinner & Manufacturer The father of Abraham was Thomas Mitchell - Worsted Manufacturer and I think his mother was Lydia Is there anyone who could do a look up for this marriage please..? kind Regards Lori Mitchell.

Hi Listers, I was wondering as there seems to many researchers out there interested in the surname Barraclough if any of you have a marriage between a Squire Mitchell aforesaid said gentleman of Odsal Top and a Jane Barraclough. Jane Barraclough was born 1835 died 1916 Kind Regards Lori Mitchell

Hi Everyone, Thought I would re Post my interests for the benefit of anyone new on the list who may be lurking and waiting for that all important connection.. MITCHELL - from the North Bierley, Bowling, Wibsey, Tong, area FIELDHOUSE - ditto PRIESTLEY - ditto HODGSON - ditto HARKER - ditto MIDGLEY - ditto SUTCLIFFE - ditto WOMERSLEY - ditto ILLINGWORTH - ditto BERESFORD - ditto BAXTER - ditto LIGHTOWLER - ditto LAYCOCK - ditto THORNTON - ditto ACKROYD - ditto SEED - Low Moor MUFF - Pudsey area CROWTHER - Heptonstall - Hebden Bridge area PICKLES - Todmorden area Kind regards Lori Mitchell

Hi The Bradford Parish Church is St Peter's Church. Christ Church was a different Church also in Bradford. Lynne

My great-grandfather was: George Riley born Abt 1827 in Bradford he married a Elizabeth Agley in Bradford (date unknown). They had a son, my grandfather, James Agley Riley born 22 Sept, 1853 who married a Amelia Ann Mitchell 30 Nov 1874. James died on Auckland New Zealand 25 Dec 1930. James was a sponsored immigrant to New Zealand. He emigrated and left England in 1878. His sponsor was a John Riley who came to New Zealand at the age of 28 in 1842 on the 'Thomas Harrison'. At the time of John's immigration he was listed as a cabinet maker and was accompanied by Mary age 36, William age 9, Mary Ann age 5 and John age 1. My grandfather apparently referred to these children as his cousins. I am trying to find out if George (born 1827) and John (born 1814) were brothers or other relative (Uncle?). I live in Canada these days so any help on this or any information on the Riley or Mitchell and Agley family connections would be much appreciated. Murray Mitchell Calgary Alberta This email with any attachments is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. If it is not intended for you please reply immediately, destroy it and do not copy, disclose or use it in any way.

Hi Valerie I am also battling with the 1841 West Riding Census CD and do not understand how to use the index. Could you please pass on any information that may help me successfully find my family? TIA Chrissy (Sydney Australia) ----- Original Message ----- From: "vgilbert" <vgilbert@supanet.com> To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:07 AM Subject: [ BRAD] 1841 and 1851 census helpers thanks > Thanks to Gwen,Arthur , David and Derek I seem nearer to solving this.I think I'm learning about how to find the place on the CD but it is still difficult to read. Looking up help has been offered too I'll contact you individually for that. > Thanks for help and encouragement. > Valerie ( getting there steadily!) > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > Do not advertise commercial or non genealogical content links after or within your messages without first seeking permission from the Admin. > Do not use the list as a port hole to advertise website urls. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi List, Is there a very kind soul who can do a lookup on the 1851 card index at Bradford for: Alfred CAWTHRAY b 1844 Tong, parents William CAWTHRAY b 1804 Tong & Susannah b 1808 Bowling. The family as far as I know should be in Tong. I have no knowledge of siblings for this family, and by 1881 Alfred was married. Also in Tong, Sarah GREENWOOD, b 1849 Tong. I have yet to get the certificate on this one, but it would be useful to see the census details. Thanks very much Bob Bond

BRADLEY family in 1891 Census for BRAMLEY, Leeds Hello Listers, I am looking for any connections to any of these persons listed in the 1891 Census for Bramley, Leeds, as they are the family of my great grandfather's sister Betsey Hindle. Here they are: George H, Bradley, age 32, Cloth fuller, Leeds Betsey Bradley, (nee Hindle), age 35, Bramley Edith Maude Bradley, age 10, scholar, Bramley Sarah J, Bradley age 8, scholar, Bramley James W, Bradley age 6, " " Ada Bradley, age 3 Bramley Ethel Bradley age 1, Bramley. Ref. RG12 3673, folio 132 Pleased to hear from you if you see a connection to any of them. They may have been alive in the living memory of someone on the list. Kindest regards, Derek Hindle in Tasmania, Australia.

COOP & DENTON families at BRAMLEY, married Leeds. 7.12. 1826 Hello Listers, I am looking for any connection to the COOP and DENTON families at Bramley, Leeds. Thomas Coop married Mary Denton on 7.12.1826 at St.Peters, Leeds and they had children in the 1851 Census as follows :- Ann 20, Thomas 19 Sarah 15, Mary 12, Joseph 10, Benjamin 7, Selina 4, Oliver under 1 month . Selina Coop was my great grandmother. If you see any connection to any of these people, I would be very pleased to hear from you. Kindest regards, Derek Hindle in Tasmania, Australia..

I want to order film from LDS I have found the correct area and all but am stumped in my final selection. I see one film which is entitled Parish Registers - Church of England - 1839 - 1875. But then I see another film called Parish Register Printouts for (Christ Church) Christenings - 1839 - 1857. What are printouts and what would be Christ Church - does anyone know? Lynda in Montreal

Hi Elaine, I would also like to know as I have a Pickard family living in Shipley in that time period. Regards Michele Cook Christchurch New Zealand --- etpickard <etpickard@rogers.com> wrote: > Hi List, > > I have just been searching for material for my > husband to help him research > his (Pickard) family in Shipley. > > I have just found the following film from the > LDS...... I wondered if others > had actually seen it? Can you tell me about it if > you have. > > It States.... > A Register of children in the township if Shipley in > the Parish of Bradford. > 1774-1858..........FHL British Film.1597063 item 1. > > Regards. > Elaine Pickard. Ottawa. Canada. > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system > (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release > Date: 25/02/03 > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > Do not advertise commercial or non genealogical > content links after or within your messages without > first seeking permission from the Admin. > Do not use the list as a port hole to advertise > website urls. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > http://mobile.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Mobile - Exchange IMs with Messenger friends on your Telstra or Vodafone mobile phone.

"etpickard" <etpickard@rogers.com> wrote..... > I have just been searching for material for my husband to help him research > his (Pickard) family in Shipley. > > I have just found the following film from the LDS...... I wondered if others > had actually seen it? Can you tell me about it if you have. > > It States.... > A Register of children in the township if Shipley in the Parish of Bradford. > 1774-1858..........FHL British Film.1597063 item 1.> I SUSPECT this will be one of the specialist indexes produced by the indefatigible Brian Jones, who has published numerous early "unofficial census" indexes from the Bradford area. Haven't got his e-mail address immediately to hand, but you can almost certainly find hm on the Internet with a Google search (try "Brian Jones+Bradford indexes), but his address is..... 32 Myers Avenue Bradford West Yorkshire BD2 4ET Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith

"dave knowles" <david_knowles@lineone.net> wrote..... > Also, regarding the CD, how are the entries indexed? Does it use the micro > fische indexes? The reason I ask is that, to the best of my knowledge, there > are surname indexes for a lot of the census's (what's the plural for that > then?....I feel an intercept from Roy heading my way) in Bradford Central > Library and if there's one for 1841 it might help you as it cross references > the names to the fische indexes.> THE Bradford FHS have indeed indexed all of the Victorian censuses from 1841 to 1891 (barring 1881 and 1901 for obvious reasons). Those of 41, 61, 71 and 91 are on fiche (the FHC in London has copies), but the 1851 is on a card index at Bradford Central Library. I believe the latter is being transferred to fiche, but maybe a member of the BFHS in the immediate area will have more up-to-date info. I suggest a peek at their website, via the Yorkshire pages of GENUKI. Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith

Could the answers please come on the list. I have just ordered this set and if others can't understand it, believe me, I WON'T EITHER!!!! Lynda in Montreal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Digby-Johnson" <chrisssy@optusnet.com.au> To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 11:21 PM Subject: Re: [ BRAD] 1841 and 1851 census helpers thanks > Hi Valerie > > I am also battling with the 1841 West Riding Census CD and do not understand > how to use the index. Could you please pass on any information that may > help me successfully find my family? > > TIA > > Chrissy > (Sydney Australia) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "vgilbert" <vgilbert@supanet.com> > To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:07 AM > Subject: [ BRAD] 1841 and 1851 census helpers thanks > > > > Thanks to Gwen,Arthur , David and Derek I seem nearer to solving this.I > think I'm learning about how to find the place on the CD but it is still > difficult to read. Looking up help has been offered too I'll contact you > individually for that. > > Thanks for help and encouragement. > > Valerie ( getting there > steadily!) > > > > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > > Do not advertise commercial or non genealogical content links after or > within your messages without first seeking permission from the Admin. > > Do not use the list as a port hole to advertise website urls. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > Do not advertise commercial or non genealogical content links after or within your messages without first seeking permission from the Admin. > Do not use the list as a port hole to advertise website urls. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >