I've just been searching AbeBooks (as I am occasionally wont to do) and found this up for sale: 75. STAVERT, W.J. THE PARISH REGISTER OF BINGLEY, in the County of York, 1577-1686. Yorkshire Parish Register Society, 1901. Contemporary half morocco gilt with raised bands, a trifle scraped. Pp. 360, top edges gilt. A very interesting 3-page A.l.s. from the then Vicar of Bingley to a Mr.Busfield (who appears to have been intending to transcribe them at that time), dated 1880, describing the state of the original registers and their whereabouts, laid in at the front. Bookseller Inventory #25857 Price: US$ 189.76 (£ 120.00) Bookseller: R.F.G.HOLLETT & SON Sedbergh, Cumbria, United Kingdom The price puts it a bit out of my league (even with a very forgiving, kind, charming, witty, loving husband - how much creeping can I get in one mail - just in case he reads this)...... but I thought I'd bring it to the attention of the list :D Bright Blessings Dawn (in VERY wet and windy Swindon, Wiltshire)

Rotheram1@aol.com wrote..... > Looks like a new resource.never seen it before..............Enjoy! > > http://viewfinder.english-heritage.org.uk/ > > Welcome to ViewFinder, a new online image resource for England's history. > > Choose from England at Work for images of the industrial age > AGREED, with one reservation. I discovered the site includes the hated Mickey Mouse county of Humberside and even places Hull as "Hull, Humberside"! Humberside, of course, was abolished in the 1990s and Hull is in the East Riding of Yorkshire, as it always was. I have made representations to English heritage. Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith

Hello Listers, This will be my first time posting my interests on the Bradford List. Most of the West Yorkshire names come from Bradford, Calverley, Manningham, Baildon, Morton Craven, Bingley and Heaton. Brigitte Begue Hartke in sunny Virginia, USA. hoping for peaceful solutions In West Yorkshire: BEANLAND, BEANLANDE, BEANLANDES HOLDGATE MARGERRISON, MARJERRISON DOWNS BOLTON BROOK WILKINSON DOBSON In East Yorkshire, England: CARRICK , CARRITT, CARROTT CASTLE - Owthorne, East Riding MEDFORTH - Kilnsea STAPLES - Out Newton, Easington BRIDE (or BIRD?) - Kilnsea BARNES - Kilnsea FRANCIS - Easington BRANTON, Easington HARRISON - Kilnsea WEBSTER - back to 1702 Easington FOSTER - late 1600s Easington ROBINSON - Bridlington WAITES - Bridlington In Lancashire: BRAMWELL - Southport, Lancashire In France: BEGUE - Toulouse, France QUIRIN - Alsace-Lorraine, France STROHL - Alsace Lorraine, France LE GALL - Brittany, France Every time an old one dies, a library burns to the ground. Old African saying

[From a book by James Parker] Horse and Groom Inn,Slack Side,Wibsey This hostel was erected about the year 1800,by the TERRY Family.A John TERRY resided there in 1822.The late Mr.John ORMONDROYD kept the house for nearly 20 years,who was highly esteemed for his kindness of heart and geniality ; it is now kept by his brother,Mr.James ORMONDROYD.[Written 1902] Cheers-----Derek.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Smith" <lyn@dalemoor.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 6:46 PM Subject: [ BRAD] Re: Christ Church Hi Lynne, Bradford Parish Church is St Peter's Church is one and the same Church Regards Janet# Janet Ogden Co ordinator of Bradford Family History Society and of 1891 Huddersfield Census FreeCEN I need Volunteers for the 1891. > Hi > > The Bradford Parish Church is St Peter's Church. Christ Church was a > different Church also in Bradford. > Lynne > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > Please NO VIRUS warnings or OFF TOPIC messages on this List. Any warnings regarding a virus please send them to the list admin who will decide if the warning should be posted. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynda Minarzick" <minarzick@sympatico.ca> To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 4:31 AM Subject: Re: [ BRAD] 1841 and 1851 census helpers thanks Hi Lynda, do you mean the Steppingstones set of 5 CD's re Yorkshire 1841 Census? If so apart from threw place Index, which may help a little as it did for myself, its a matter of trailing though the pages, it an as is copy of the enumerators work books. On the other hand if you have the 1841 Index and you need to look at entries in the Bradford Area, Bradford FHS have produced a Surname Index. Armed with this you can search for family names, and get the Piece and Folio Numbers, and work through the ones listed until you get the correct families. You can see our Web Site at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/bfhs/ There is no such Index for the 1851 Census of Bradford, but in time we will be producing this as a full transcript. This is our currant project as a Society. I hope that this helps Janet Ogden Co ordinator of Bradford Family History Society and of 1891 Huddersfield Census FreeCEN I am asking for volunteers for the 1891. > Could the answers please come on the list. I have just ordered this set and > if others can't understand it, believe me, I WON'T EITHER!!!! > > Lynda in Montreal > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christine Digby-Johnson" <chrisssy@optusnet.com.au> > To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 11:21 PM > Subject: Re: [ BRAD] 1841 and 1851 census helpers thanks > > > > Hi Valerie > > > > I am also battling with the 1841 West Riding Census CD and do not > understand > > how to use the index. Could you please pass on any information that may > > help me successfully find my family? > > > > TIA > > > > Chrissy > > (Sydney Australia) > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "vgilbert" <vgilbert@supanet.com> > > To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:07 AM > > Subject: [ BRAD] 1841 and 1851 census helpers thanks > > > > > > > Thanks to Gwen,Arthur , David and Derek I seem nearer to solving this.I > > think I'm learning about how to find the place on the CD but it is still > > difficult to read. Looking up help has been offered too I'll contact you > > individually for that. > > > Thanks for help and encouragement. > > > Valerie ( getting there > > steadily!) > > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > > > Do not advertise commercial or non genealogical content links after or > > within your messages without first seeking permission from the Admin. > > > Do not use the list as a port hole to advertise website urls. > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > > Do not advertise commercial or non genealogical content links after or > within your messages without first seeking permission from the Admin. > > Do not use the list as a port hole to advertise website urls. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > Please do not just click on 'reply' - Change the subject line to describe more accurately the subject of *your* message. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Taken from the souvenir book of the Bradford Pageant, Peel Park, Bradford July 1931. Pageant Queen: Miss Freda SHEPHERD Ladies in Waiting: Miss Margaret Bateson Miss C Berry Miss D Clapham Miss Duncan Miss Muriel Hadfield Miss Ada Hodgson Mrs F Jowett Miss Muriel Mitchell Miss Audrey Ross Miss Ruth M Servent Kind regards Judith Kettlewell

Hello again Arthur and thanks a million. I have ordered these fiche just this afternoon and had resolved to try and do this listing. You have done all that work and it is a great help. I do'nt think that is really too much for producers of the Cd to undertake really. you should offer it to them. It makes searching so much more possible . Great stuff Now off to look round Thornton (all bits) for my folk. I'm sure others will find it helpful too. Valerie N Yorks my worst struggle is over, I can plod through again.

One of the difficulties I found with the 1841 Census is trying to understand how the places and the references relate to each other. It's all rather confusing: Most Districts contain more than one Township, although some are a single Township, and the Township of Bradford is so big that it needs two Districts. Each District (and Township) is divided into a number of Enumeration Districts. The Census is arranged in Pieces, each of which can have 10 or more Parts. Each Part contains around 2 - 4 Enumeration Districts from one District, but Parts from several Districts are often found together in one Piece. Similarly, many Districts comprise Parts from more than one Piece. There - told you it was confusing!!! Anyway, to try to make sense of it all, and to help me find my way around the Census and the Bradford FHS Index fiches, I devised the following lists, which I'm posting here in case they are of use to anyone else. LIST 1: ARRANGED BY PIECE NUMBER (Piece/Part Nos, E.D. Nos, District, Township, Fiche) 1290/3 - 1290/5, 1 - 6, Cleckheaton, Cleckheaton, 5 1290/6, 1 - 4, Drighlington, Drighlington Chapelry, 5 1291/4, 7 - 8, Cleckheaton, Hunsworth, 5 1291/9 - 1291/10, 5 - 10, Drighlington, Tong Chapelry, 5 1291/11 - 1291/12, 9 - 11, Cleckheaton, Wike, 5 1292/1, 7 - 10, Wilsden, Allerton, 6 1292/2 - 1292/7, 1 - 13, North Bierley, North Bierley, 6 1292/8 - 1292/12, 1 - 12, Bowling, Bowling, 5 1293/1 - 1293/12, 1 - 35, Bradford East End, Bradford, 1 1294/1 - 1294/11, 1 - 21, Bradford West End, Bradford, 2 1294/12, WH/CH/GA/CB, Bradford East End, Bradford, 1 1294/13 IN, Bradford West End, Bradford, 2 1295/1 - 1295/3, 14 - 21, Thornton, Clayton, 6 1295/4 - 1295/5, 12 - 16, Idle, Eccleshill, 4 1295/10, 10 - 13, Manningham, Heaton, 3 1296/1 - 1296/10, 1 - 25, Horton, Horton, 3 1297/1 - 1297/3, 1 - 9, Manningham, Manningham, 3 1297/4 - 1297/5, 14 - 17, Manningham, Shipley, 3 1297/6 - 1297/9, 1 - 13, Thornton, Thornton Chapelry, 6 1297/10 - 1297/11, 1 - 6, Wilsden, Wilsden Chapelry, 6 1298/1, 17, Idle, Bolton, 4 1298/2 - 1298/3, 1 - 5, Calverley with Farsley, Calverley with Farsley, 4 1298/4 - 1298/7, 1 - 11 + WH, Idle, Idle Chapelry, 4 1298/8 - 1298/13, 1 - 12, Pudsey, Pudsey, 4 LIST 2: ARRANGEMENT OF DISTRICTS ON INDEX FICHES (District, Township, Piece/Part Nos, E.D. Nos.) Fiche 1 Bradford East End, Bradford, 1293/1 - 1293/12, 1 - 35 Bradford East End, Bradford, 1294/12, WH/CH/GA/CB Fiche 2 Bradford West End, Bradford, 1294/1 - 1294/11, 1 - 21 Bradford West End, Bradford, 1294/13, IN Fiche 3 Horton, Horton, 1296/1 - 1296/10, 1 - 25 Manningham, Heaton, 1295/10, 10 - 13 Manningham, Manningham, 1297/1 - 1297/3, 1 - 9 Manningham, Shipley, 1297/4 - 1297/5, 14 - 17 Fiche 4 Calverley with Farsley, Calverley with Farsley, 1298/2 - 1298/3, 1 - 5 Idle, Eccleshill, 1295/4 - 1295/5, 12 - 16 Idle, Bolton, 1298/1, 17 Idle, Idle Chapelry, 1298/4 - 1298/7, 1 - 11 + WH Pudsey, Pudsey, 1298/8 - 1298/13, 1 - 12 Fiche 5 Bowling, Bowling, 1292/8 - 1292/12, 1 - 12 Cleckheaton, Cleckheaton, 1290/3 - 1290/5, 1 - 6 Cleckheaton, Hunsworth, 1291/4, 7 - 8 Cleckheaton, Wike, 1291/11 - 1291/12, 9 - 11 Drighlington, Drighlington Chapelry, 1290/6, 1 - 4 Drighlington, Tong Chapelry, 1291/9 - 1291/10, 5 - 10 Fiche 6 North Bierley, North Bierley, 1292/2 - 1292/7, 1 - 13 Thornton, Clayton, 1295/1 - 1295/3, 14 - 21 Thornton, Thornton Chapelry, 1297/6 - 1297/9, 1 - 13 Wilsden, Allerton, 1292/1, 7 - 10 Wilsden, Wilsden Chapelry, 1297/10 - 1297/11, 1 - 6 Enjoy! Arthur Kennedy akpak@waitrose.com http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~arthurk/

Thanks to help recieved on this list I think I can finally trace references on the 1841. I've traced those MALTBY names entered and feel satisfied ,although they are not what I expected. I can now use these names to see if they are Grandmother, uncle etc. There are not too many MALTBY names about so it could be better than my SUTCLIFFE trail. Having said that I'm back on the census now to find My John SUTCLIFFE b Mountain and his father William. Just hoping might lead me to the 'Famed ' Bill at Mountain' who played 'Knurr and Spell' so well as reported by Derek Barraclough. Thanks Derek, that has spurred me on to do a bit more work before I go away for a week. I'll still be reading your messages but will have no resorces with me. THANKS to all who helped. Valerie

Hi List At the end Mr Greene and the staff of the Hippodrome expressed their thanks. More adverts.............originals can be scanned for you. KEIGHLEY & NIXON (prop P NIXON) Licensed game dealer. Changegate, Keighley T B DICKINSON & Son, Drapers & Furnishers. 8 High Street, Keighley, also Russell Street Warehouse. BACON & COATES, 75 Low Street, Keighley. Alfred LORD & Co showrooms near the Cross. 26 & 28 High Street Keighley Corporation Electricy Department. Borough Electrical Enginer & General Manager Harry WEBBER, M.I.E.E. M.I. Mech E, M.I.T. The Picture House, Skipton Rd Keighley was showing Colleen with Dick Powell & Ruby Keeler Anthony Adverse with Frederick MArch and Olivia De Havilland I MArried a Doctor with Pat O' Brian and Josephine Hutchinson Secret Interlude with Robert Taylor, Loretta Young, and Basil Rathbone. Last in the Sybil book....................... Next Maid of the Mountains. Jan in Bronte Country Co-List Admin Eng-Yorks, Bradford Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Updated daily automatically. WARNING ..... To help prevent any virus transmission DO NOT open any attachments to this mail unless the attachment filename is quoted in my first line of the message text

Hi List Amazing what you can do after visiting your Dr.....I wandered around some of Haworth and took a few unusual shots...of The Old Hall, Butt Lane, Views across to Black Moor, the Chapel on Sun Street....and many more................should anyone want some copies let me know........even found a shop specializing in memorabilia, old newspapers etc....asked if they needed staff, and was told....YES they did.....and they will contact me...... Less money BUT what the hell, I will be like a pig in ****if I get a job there.........what luck....so all keep your fingers crossed for me....................Actually thinking about it probably have no money if I keep buying the wonderful stock they have !!!!!! lol Warmest Wishes Jan in Bronte Country Co-List Admin Eng-Yorks, Bradford Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Updated daily automatically. WARNING ..... To help prevent any virus transmission DO NOT open any attachments to this mail unless the attachment filename is quoted in my first line of the message text

Hello Listers, As you might expect Yorkshire Past and Present gives a very fullsome account of the Chuches and Chapels in Bradford. In 1873 there were"no less than ninety-seven edifices devoted to divine worship". Transcribing that lot is beyond me at present but if there are any specific enquiries I will be happy to respond. About Christ Church it says "situated at the top of Darley Street, was built in 1815, at a cost of £5400, which was raised by subscription; one anonymous subscriber, a lady, alone contributed £800. It was enlarged and repaired in 1826 and 1836. The register dates from 1837. The building is in the Gothic style, and contains 1300 sittings, of which 600 are free. Best wishes to all, David Binns, Tyneside. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lynne Smith <lyn@dalemoor.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 6:46 PM Subject: [ BRAD] Re: Christ Church > Hi > > The Bradford Parish Church is St Peter's Church. Christ Church was a > different Church also in Bradford. > Lynne > > ______________________________

Hello folks. just had a 'google' and found that the game is one of the bat and ball variety. A wooden ball I believe. So some kind of sport and a lot of followers. Has anybody got information on how widespread it was, how played. only the two players were mentioned in the report Derek sent.Not a team game then? Could 10,000 people see what was going on ? It must have been pubicised to get that many spectators. Not ventured into sport research before.Where do I look for information, posters, other matches for my (possible) connection with 'Bill at Mount' 1859 Valerie N Yorks

[From a book by James Parker 1902] This Company was established in the year 1860,and was Registered in March of the same year,with a capital of �20,000. The Districts lighted by the Company were as follows--Wibsey,Low Moor, Bierley,Oakenshaw,Wike,Clifton,Hartshead Moor,Scholes,Buttershaw,and Shelf. LIST OF OFFICERS FOR THE YEAR 1862. Chairman ; Charles James North Vice-Chairman ; J.M.Woodcock Treasurer ; Henry Woodcock Secretary ; F.Bower Bankers ; Harris & Co.Bradford Solicitors ; Wood and Killick Auditors ; Jonathan Holden and John Greenhough,Wibsey Directors ; Chas.J.North,Slack Side ; J.M.Woodcock,Thomas Dixon,Henry Woodcock H.B.Woodcock,Eli Wadsworth,W.Barraclough James Parkinson,David Hillam,J.L.Clough, all of Low Moor ; H.I.Lee,Bowling ; Joseph Myers,Horton ; Sampson Shaw, W.Greenwood,George Kellett,Seth Breaks, J.H.Tordoff,Edmund Tordoff,all of Wibsey M.Brayshaw,Bowling Lane ; Joseph Wright, Wibsey. It continued as a Company till 1900,when Bradford Corporation purchased it for �169,433 plus mortgage loans on the Gas Works of �11,375. ======================================== Here are more worthy Victorian Bradfordians for you ; hopefully you can identify some of them as 'yours' Cheers--------Derek.

Derek, maybe I'm the lucky one today, maybe, maybe not My John SUTCLIFFE born Mountain around 1841 I just got the marriage certificate and his father was William Sutcliffe. Seems worth checking out to me . I now show my ignorance.What exactly is a 'knurr and spell match'? So many people there too.! This is fascinating stuff and in the right area. Of course with SUTCLIFFE so common it could be any William, or one related or even John's father. They could have been there anyway. So who can tell me about 'knurr and spell' and the scoring for it ? Very interesting. Valerie N Yorks Maybe I should add the SUTCLIFFE name to my list for 1841 references .Mountain is the place I'm looking for.

Hi List Looks like a new resource.never seen it before..............Enjoy! http://viewfinder.english-heritage.org.uk/ Welcome to ViewFinder, a new online image resource for England's history. Choose from England at Work for images of the industrial age Warmest Wishes Jan in Bronte Country Co-List Admin Eng-Yorks, Bradford Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Updated daily automatically. WARNING ..... To help prevent any virus transmission DO NOT open any attachments to this mail unless the attachment filename is quoted in my first line of the message text

Hi - I have read the film (ages ago now) and it does list children, but not all, of Shipley. Worth a look, I found 2 out of 5 from one family. Cheers, Mal. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michelle Cook" <chelcooknz@yahoo.co.nz> To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 7:12 AM Subject: Re: [ BRAD] Register of Children in Shipley? > Hi Elaine, > I would also like to know as I have a Pickard family > living in Shipley in that time period. > > Regards > Michele Cook > Christchurch > New Zealand > > > > --- etpickard <etpickard@rogers.com> wrote: > Hi > List, > > > > I have just been searching for material for my > > husband to help him research > > his (Pickard) family in Shipley. > > > > I have just found the following film from the > > LDS...... I wondered if others > > had actually seen it? Can you tell me about it if > > you have. > > > > It States.... > > A Register of children in the township if Shipley in > > the Parish of Bradford. > > 1774-1858..........FHL British Film.1597063 item 1. > > > > Regards. > > Elaine Pickard. Ottawa. Canada. > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system > > (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release > > Date: 25/02/03 > > > > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > > Do not advertise commercial or non genealogical > > content links after or within your messages without > > first seeking permission from the Admin. > > Do not use the list as a port hole to advertise > > website urls. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > > online genealogy records, go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > http://mobile.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Mobile > - Exchange IMs with Messenger friends on your Telstra or Vodafone mobile phone. > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > Do not advertise commercial or non genealogical content links after or within your messages without first seeking permission from the Admin. > Do not use the list as a port hole to advertise website urls. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

[From a book of Bradford's districts by James Parker,pub.1902] 'A great knurr and spell match took place at Wibsey,on May 2nd.1859,between W.Sutcliffe,or 'Bill at Mount',from Mountain,near Queensbury,and J.Jagger, for �20 a side.There were about 10,000 persons present at the match. 'Bill at Mount'had a score of 306. Jackey Jagger had a score of 270. 'Bill at Mount'won the match by 36 score ======================================= The people with these surnames in their ancestry are legion.I would like to think that someone,somewhere can claim these 'Sporting Heroes'as theirs !!!! Cheers-------Derek.

I'm was hoping that some kind person could help me find this relative of mine. I have George RHODES born circa 1843 Heaton or Allerton, which I believe is in the Bradford area. Unfortunately I don't know anything else about him which is why I would live it if the 1851 census index could be checked, and this may lead me to the names of his parents, and any other siblings. I would be truly grateful for any help you can give. Gwen Nadin Auckland