Hello Listers, Last instalment, regards, David Binns, Tyneside Bradford Churches 1873 from Bradford Past and Present Roman Catholic and Quaker 1) First mass celebrated at the Roebuck Inn in 1822. 2) St Mary's, Stott Hill, Roman Catholic. 3) St Patrick's, Westgate, Roman Catholic. 4) St. Ann's, Hardy Street, Roman Catholic. 5) St. Joseph's, Grafton Street, Roman Catholic. 6) St. Peter's, Leeds Road, Roman Catholic. 7) Goodmansend an acre of land, "in trust for "the children of light, whom the people of the world commonly call Quakers," to use as a burial ground." 8) Meeting house built on the site of the old chapel in 1811, enlarged in 1825, Quaker.

Hello Listers, Here's the next instalment. Bradford Churches 1873 from Yorshire Past andPresent Methodist 1) First meeting-house was at the Cock-pit which the Baptists vacated in 1755. 2) Octagon, Great Horton Road was the first building of their own and where "John Wesley preached last in Bradford, at five o'clock in the morning of May 2, 1788". 3) Kirkgate Chapel was built in 1811. 4) Eastbrook Chapel was built in 1825. 5) White Abbey Chapel was built in 1838. 6) Centenary Chapel, Clayton Lane, was built in 1839. 7) Bradford Moor, large Methodist chapel. 8) Dudley Hill, large Methodist chapel. 9) Richmond Terrace, large Methodist chapel. 10) Undercliffe, large Methodist chapel. 11) Mount Street, large Methodist chapel. 12) Little Horton Lane (Annesley), large Methodist chapel. 13) Girlington, large Methodist chapel. 14) Great Horton, large Methodist chapel. 15) Prospect (Bowling), large Methodist chapel. 16) Carlisle Road (Manningham), large Methodist chapel. 17) Heaton Road, large Methodist chapel. 18) Otley Road under construction in 1873. 19) Frizinghall new chapel in 1873. 20) Carlisle Road, Manningham, Primitive Methodist. 21) Daisy Hill, Primitive Methodist. 22) Townend, Great Horton, Primitive Methodist. 23) Horton Bank, Primitive Methodist. 24) Laister-dyke (Zion), Primitive Methodist. 25) Manchester Road, Primitive Methodist. 26) Sun Street (Philadelphia), Primitive Methodist. 27) Rebecca Street, Primitive Methodist. 28) Park Lane, Primitive Methodist. 29) Horton Lane (Ebenezer), Methodist New Connection. 30) Sticker Lane, Methodist New Connection. 31) Bowling Old Lane, in 1873, Methodist New Connection opened a preaching place. 32) Bridge Street, Dudley Hill, United Methodist Free Church. 33) Otley Road, Free Street (Mount Olive), United Methodist Free Church. 34) Westgate, Homes Street, United Methodist Free Church. 35) Swaine Green (Providence), United Methodist Free Church. 36) Bowling Old Lane (Muff Field), Wesleyan Reformers. 37) Peckover Street (Bethesda), Wesleyan Reformers. 38) Abbey Street, Wesleyan Reformers. 39) Infirmary Street, United Presbyterian. 40) Little Horton, Moravians. 41) Infirmary Street, New Jerusalem. 42) Kirkgate, Latter Day Saints. 43) Salem Street, the Bretheren.

Hi Listers Just read Jan's message about the job in the shop in Haworth (Good Luck Jan!) I've often thought a great place to work would be the Register Office but don'thave a clue about what qualifications, or experience you need, or of course what else the job entails besides registering births, marriages and deaths and looking out entries for family historians! It's just something I muse about when I'm having a less than happy day in my current job. Kind Regards Wendy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

Hi, Researching for descendants of Hersham MILNER, married Annie TORDOFF Feb 24, 1900 in Bradford Don in OZ

Hi Listers, Please I was wondering if anybody on the list lived in Lilian street Dudley Hill, Bradford or knew of anybody who may have lived there back in 1957 and onwards. I am tracing my husband's grandfather, Percy Stafford Mitchell and his wife Alice Mitchell. He wrote to the Repatriation Office (now known as Veteran Affarirs) in Sydney on 2nd February 1957 to say he was now residing with his wife at this address... Percy Stafford Mitchell was in the A.I.F and came to Australia in 1911/12 at 19 years of age with his father Jonas, mother Mary, sisters Alice & Jane, brother Henry and the sister's husband, Vincent Crowther and Marshall Pickles.. In 1919 he was demobilised after WW1 he returned to Bradford and joined the Bradford Police Force in Nov 1920...but stayed only 4 months due to suffering from Trench feet. He returned to Australia in 1922 and continued to live in various addresses in Sydney. The last known address was 46 Wimbledon St, Narrabeen...before returning to Bradford aboard the 'Otranto' leaving Sydney 5th September 1956. I would like to also ask can I check for his name on a passage list for this ship?.. He paid 116 pounds for the trip back to the U.K. Kind regards Lori Mitchell

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Hi Listers, An extract from "A Topographical Dictionary Of Yorkshire" dated 1822 has an entry under "Wadlands" stating that Wadlands was a farmhouse in the township of Calverley-with-Farsley and the parish of Calverley; 3 miles from Bradford. By 1849, it looks like Wadlands Hall may have been known as "Wadlands Grange", at least for a time. Does anyone have any further information on the history of Wadlands? Any help most appreciated. Regards Michael from Lancashire

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Hi List More of these characters 'Market Kitty' MACDONALD was one of the men who stood with shovels at the bottom of Cavendish Street outside the coal yards. He was a great drinker and very jolly. Every so often he would go ona rant (a bender) When O'Banks the coal merchant's opened in Keighley, Market Kiity's two sons and brother became the their three carters. and Market Kitty worked full time filling bogs with coal at the East Parade yard. He was a brother of Widow Tush. Johnny HOGAN or 'One Round HOGAN' Worked at Hattersleys as a moulder, He only had one leg. If you got into an argument with him, he would hit you with his walking stick. He NEVER missed hence his nickname. When his wife Dolly wanted to go for a drink, she would his his peg leg, on the ash places. He used to drink the the catholic club at weekend........They lived in West Lane. 'Ginger John' Was the CAtholic Club doorman, He sat on the second landing of the stairs on a chair.....and if a bobby came he pressed a button, a bell rang in the bar and it was quickly closed. He lived in west Lane. 'Bingley Ned' Was a semi retired cattle buyer. who drank at the Ship Inn at T' Top o' Town. He would but for any Keighley butcher at Bingley Auction Mart. Ginger John, would always meet him at the station, because he was Ginger John's greatest friend. Harold HOYLE Was a cattle buyer. He bought all kinds of animals for all the butchers in town. He pushed a big old green bicycle but hardly ever rode it. He would push it for miles and miles around neighbouring farms. He would continually lose it, and have to collect it from the police station. He lived at a farm at the top of Fell Lane, where the 'Three Horses' public house is now. 'Ossie' HOYLEHarold's son, lived at the farm. He dealt in stocks and shares on the stock market, after having a college education.............BUT never seemed to work for a living. 'Florrie' HOYLE Harold's daughter, worked in the mill at Oakwroth, despite there being buses available she would walk to Oakworth and back daily, she had been used to doing this all her life. More later................Enjoy!!!!! Warmest Wishes Jan Jan in Bronte Country Co-List Admin Eng-Yorks, Bradford Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Updated daily automatically. WARNING ..... To help prevent any virus transmission DO NOT open any attachments to this mail unless the attachment filename is quoted in my first line of the message text

Hello Listers, More churches for you. This time it's Presbyterians and Baptists. Final posting will be Methodists. Bradford Churches 1873 From Yorkshire Past and Present: Non conformist Chapels- Presbyterian and Baptist 1) Presbyterian Chapel, Chapel Lane, established after 1672, replaced 1717. Pulled down in 1868. New building being erected. 2) Thornton first meeting held in 1655, "in a place afterwards known as "Kipping House".In 1672 the church at Kipping sent a member, George Wade, to be present at the formation of a Congregational Church, Call Lane, Leeds". New chapel built 1766. New building and school house erected in 1844. 3) Little Horton Lane chapel built about 1784. New chapel built in 1862. 4) Salem Chapel, Manor Row, built in 1836. "Preaching places at Spinkwell and Valley Road were attached to it." 5) "Airdale Independent College, for the training of Independent ministers, is the expansion of an academy founded for the same purpose, in 1756, at Heckmondwike. It was removed for a time to Northowram. The college was founded at Idle in 1800..." "The present college at Undercliffe was erected .. in 1831.in 1872, it was resolved to erect a new building in the neighbourhood of Bradford" 6) Airdale College Chapel, in Park Street, Otley Rd. was built in 1839. 7) Independent Chapel at Lumb Lane, Greenfield, proposed to be rebuilt. 8) Independent Chapel at Lister Hills 9) Independent Chapel at Essex Street, Bowling. 10) Independent Chapel at Cambridge Place. 11) Independent Chapel at High Street, Great Horton. 12) Independent Chapel at Thornton Lane. 13) Independent Chapel at Wesley Place, Great Horton. 14) Independent Chapel at Jer Lane, Horton Bank. 15) Independent Chapel at Holme Lane. 16) Independent Chapel at Cemetery Road, Lidget Green. 17) Independent Chapel at Valley Road. 18) The Baptist church commenced in 1751 at the house of Elizabeth Frankland in Manningham. They moved to "the Cock-pit", near the end of Thornton Road. In those days new members were baptized in the mill-goit at the bottom of Silsbridge Lane. In 1775 a chapel was erected at the top of Westgate, now the school room of Westgate Chapel. 19) A Baptist chapel was erected at Farsley in 1777. 20) Westgate Chapel was erected in 1782. 21) The Baptist College commenced in Little Horton in 1806 and removed to Rawden in 1859. 22) Sion Chapel, Bridge St., was erected in 1823 and it was decided to build a new one on a site in Harris Street, Leeds Road which when opened in 1873 will be styled Sion Jubilee Memorial Chapel. 23) Trinity Chapel, Little Horton Lane, rose in 1857. 24) Hallfield Chapel and schools, Manningham Lane, were built in 1863. 25) Preaching place at Allerton Road (Lady Royd). 26) Preaching place at New Leeds (Mulgrave Street). 27) Preaching place at Caledonia Street. 28) General Baptist chapel in Infirmary Street. 29) Baptist chapel at Tetley Street. 30) Baptist chapel at Darfield Street. 31) Baptist chapel at Ripley Street, Manchester Road.

Thank you David for the very useful list of churches and chapels in the Bradford area. Have you come across any information about St. Mary Magdelene near Lumb Lane. I was christened there and I would be interested in any information relevant to it. Regards Shirley J. North Yorkshire England

Hello Listers, By request here is a list of chuches with very brief details relevant to FH research. There is more information about the architecture, size, cost and the like for the older chuches. Contact me directly if you are interested. Parts 2 and 3 of this posting will deal with nonconformist chapels. Bradford Churches 1873 From Yorkshire Past and Present: " For members of the establishment" 1) The parish church of St Peter. Erected about 1458. 2) Bierley Church was built in 1766, but not consecrated until 1824. 3) Christ Church, situated at the top of Darley St., was built in 1815, register dates from1837. 4) St. James' Church, Manchester Rd. Foundation stone laid 31st October, 1836. 5)St. John's Church, Manchester Rd. was opened in 1840, "but the situation being inconvenient, a large new church, to take its place, is now in the course of erection (1873), in Little Horton Lane". 6) St. John's Church, Bowling was built in 1840. 7) St. Jude's Church, Lumb Lane was erected in1843. "The congregation have opened a mission room in Golden Square, White Abbey, and intend to build a new church, schools, and house in the district,." 8) St Paul's Church, Manningham, was built in 1848. "Another church, St. Mark's, is to be built in Grosvenor Rd., Manningham.." 9) St. Andrews Church, Lister Hills, was erected in 1853. 10) All Saints', Little Horton Green, was consecrated in 1864. 11) St. Luke's Church was built in 1862 on a piece of land in Chandos Street, Wakefield Rd. 12) St. Thomas's Church, Butterfield Place, was built in 1862. 13) "A neat little church in Leeds Road is dedicated to the Hoy Trinity." 14) St. Matthew's, Wibsey Bank Foot, is "modern". 15) St Mary's, Laister Dyke, is "modern". 16) St. Stephen's, Bowling, is "modern". 17) St. Michael's, Brick Lane, is "modern". 18) St. Philip's, Girlington Road, is "modern". 19) St. Stephen's School Chapel, Chapel Green, is "modern" 20) St. Augustine's School Chapel, Undercliffe, is "modern" and is "to be supplemented with a church." 21) St. Chrysostom's Mission Church is in Bolton Rd., and is "modern" a site for a new has been given. 22) Bolton School Church is "modern" and it "is proposed to build a church there." 23) St. Bartholomew's Church, Ripleyville, is "modern". 24) Bell Chapel, Great Horton is to be replaced by a new church. 25) St. Barnabas' Church, Heaton, is "modern". Hope this is of interest. Best wishes, David Binns, Tyneside .

Hi list Can anyone admise me how I can find (or tell me) what the law was in England , 19th century, regarding the marriage of a woman to her uncle(by marriage). i.e. could a woman marry the husband of her aunt - after she had died of course. Was this legal? Thanks Colin New Zealand

Thank you John for such a clear explanation of this 'Knurr and Spell' game.It does seem a big crowd 10,000 people .If there was money on it ,as you say it drew the crowds. Does anyone still play? I wonder. I shall certainly try to get to the area soon as there is a lot I want to see. I'll add the museum to my list. I knew someone on this list would come up with help even if the game is a bit obscure. Now all I need to do is 'prove' that Bill at Mountain was of my tribe. It might be easier to learn to play the game ! Thank you Valerie

My g.grandfather TOM ARTHUR PICKARD was born in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE, 19 Dec 1867 at 19 Dixon Street. His parents were Charles Edward PICKARD and Caroline ROBERTSHAW. Charles was a 'maker up in a stuff warehouse' which has me completely baffled. I would appreciate any info - thanks

These remained unchanged until 1907: A woman was not permitted to marry: Grandfather Grandmother's husband Husband's Grandfather Father's Brother Mother's Brother Father's Sisters Husband (guess that answers your question Colin :D ) Mother's sisters husband Husband's Father's Brother Husband's Mother's Brother Father Step-Father Husband's father Son Husband's Son Daughter's husband Brother Husband's Brother Sister's Husband Son's Son Daughter's Son Son's Daughter's Husband Daughter's daughter's Husband Husband's Son's Son Husband's Daughter's Son Brother's Son sister's Son Brother's Daughter's Husband Sister's Daughter's Husband Husband's Brother's Son Husband's Sister's Son Same for a bloke but the other way round (if you see what I mean!) Bright Blessings Dawn (extremely windy and very wet Swindon, wiltshire, UK) -----Original Message----- From: cchild@actrix.co.nz To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: 07/03/03 19:17 Subject: [ BRAD] Marriage laws Hi list Can anyone admise me how I can find (or tell me) what the law was in England , 19th century, regarding the marriage of a woman to her uncle(by marriage). i.e. could a woman marry the husband of her aunt - after she had died of course. Was this legal? Thanks Colin New Zealand ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== Visit http://www.genuki.org.uk/ for initial information on all aspects of genealogy in the UK.........For the Bradford pages visit http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Bradford/index.html ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Bob, Here's what you asked for--- Bradford Census 1851,Tong. 335,Cutler Height Lane William Cawthray,head,marr.aged 46, Farmer of 22 acres,born Tong. Susannah C.wife,aged 43,born Bowling Charlotte C.dau.aged 23,Stuff Weaver, born Bowling Elijah C.son,aged 16,Farmer's son,b.Tong Ruth C.dau.aged 14,Stuff Weaver,b.Tong. Elias C.son,aged 13,Spinner-Worsted,born Tong William C.son,aged 11,Farmer's son,born Tong Alfred C.son,aged 9,Errand Boy,born Tong Elizabeth C.dau.aged 7,Scholar,born Tong Mary Ann C.dau.aged 2,born Tong. [Ref-2310 ED 2D Tong Sch.106] ======================================== No chance of finding Sarah Greenwood on the 1851 card index unless you can tell me her parent's names----Sorry. Cheers-------Derek.

Derek kindly did a lookup for my MALTBY family. Thank you Derek Although they were in Bradford for the birth of daughter Martha in 1840 they do not appear in Bradford at all in 1841.or 1851 I am now guessing that the birth was at 'Grans' and they have returned to a home elsewhere. My guess would be Leeds area. If anyone spots a MALTBY family in Leeds 1841, 1851 I would love to know.They are William MALTBY, wife Mary Ann, children John b 1838 and Martha b 1840 ( Bradford). Indeed they could be anywhere in WRY. John was in Armley Goal 1881 and Martha married John Galloway.I will do some checking for the marriage of daughter Martha. William and Mary Ann (GLOVER) married in Farnley in 1837 so I will try that area.Back to looking for GLOVER parents in Bradford 1841. Maltby is not over common so if anyone spots any I would be glad to know. Thank you Valerie N Yorks

Hi Colin, Looked all over for my old Church of England prayer book for the marriage laws (consanguinity) but couldn't find it. Glad Dawn was able to come up with it however. BUT...... as we all know it seems to have been overlooked in many cases. As it probably was in your uncles case..... What comes to mind was did they have to prove they were not related.... etc etc. They certainly were not related by blood just by marriage. That would have been scrapped after 1907... one would hope..... Regards. Elaine Pickard. Ottawa. Canada. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 25/02/03