Hi Folks, Please find below the Genuki Yorkshire updates and additions for the past few weeks. These are mainly Church photographs, as I have been given very few transcriptions over this period. If anyone has any transcriptions of out of copyright material or their own articles on things that are of general interest which they would be prepared to have placed on the Genuki site, please drop me a line. Best wishes, Colin Hinson In the village of Blunham in Bedfordshire U.K. Webmaster for the Genuki Yorkshire pages: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ Rare Books on CD: http://www.blunham.demon.co.uk/CDroms/ Baine's & Bulmers directories, History of Craven, Heywood/Northowram, National gazetteer of G.B & Ireland, Whelan's York & NRY Hunter's Hallamshire (Sheffield), Yorkshire: Past and Present Poulson's Holderness, Turner's Brighouse, etc etc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Places in brackets are the relevant (ancient) parishes. Unless otherwise specified, the churches are C of E. Don't forget the surnames interest list for Yorkshire: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/ -------------------------------------- Maggie Cassidy: WRY: Article on Ribblehead (Low Bentham parish) -------------------------------------- Bill Henderson WRY: Church photographs Hooton Roberts South Anston ERY: Harswell - 2 views -------------------------------------- Janice Wood Church Photograph NRY: Kirkdale -------------------------------------- John Ellerton: NRY: Burneston Various parish register transcriptions added. -------------------------------------- Andy Sefton: NRY: Malton Messenger transcriptions of BMDs. for 1863 (see under "Newspapers" on main Genuki YKS page.) -------------------------------------- Mike Greatorex WRY: Rotherham Article on the ship launch disaster at Masbrough 1841 -------------------------------------- Pauline Hinson: ERY: Many links made from parish pages into local web-sites -------------------------------------- Colin Hinson: All the above added to data base and formatted for the web. Transcriptions of 1868 National Gazetteer added to relevant parishes: Ainsty: 26 pages (52 places) ERY: 181 pages (489 places) NRY: 193 pages (858 places) WRY: 196 pages (1495 places) (This is the culmination of about a year's work). Church Photographs: ERY: Howsham (Scrayingham) - additional Great Kelk Chapel (Foston on the Wolds) Leavening Methodist (Acklam) Nafferton Methodist Norton - additional Norton St Peter on Langton Road Norton Trinity Methodist Norton Bethel Methodist Norton Salvation Army NRY: Dalby Scackleton (Hovingham) Scackleton Methodist (Hovingham) Stillington Methodist Terrington - additional Thornton le Clay Methodist (Foston) Westow - additional Barton le Willows Methodist (Crambe) Crambeck - ex-Chapel WRY: Steeton (Kildwick) Dinnington Firbeck - 2 views Harthill Harthill Methodist Kiveton Park Methodist (Harthill) Kiveton Park Roman Catholic (Harthill) Laughten en le Morthen - 2 views Thurcroft Thurcroft Christian Fellowship South Anston - additional South Anston - Methodist North Anston - Methodist (South Anston) North Anston - ex-Congregational (South Anston) Woodsetts (South Anston) Woodsetts Methodist (South Anston) Saint John's Thorpe Salvin Todwick Wales Wales Methodist Replacement Church Photos: ERY: Fordon (Hunmanby) Acklam Bridlington Emmanuel Bridlington Holy Trinity Bessingby St Mark Burythorpe Foston on the Wolds Harpham Howsham (Scrayingham) Leavening (Acklam) Lowthorpe Nafferton Wandsford (Nafferton) Norton Ruston Parva Westow Westow Methodist NRY: Brandsby Bulmer Welburn (Bulmer) Coneysthorpe Old Chapel (Barton le Street) Crambe Farlington (Sheriff Hutton) Whitwell on the Hill (Crambe) Foston High Hutton (Huttons Ambo) Marton in the Forest (Marton cum Moxby) Stillington Terrington Yearsley (Coxwold)

Elaine, and others, In the scan-group work is being done on the births of 1904-1906, marriages and deaths still need to be scanned, and they are planning to expand that as time goes on. By the way, if you have at least half an hour to spare each week, and have basic computer skills, why not join the FreeBMD volunteers and help with the transcribing. For some of the years you need access to a reader. But if you don�t, you can still help in the scan group. You will be allocated two scanned pages at a time, which you can transcribe with a program that you can download. Every little bit helps. Eliane Heseltine, Zoetermeer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internet wordt pas leuk als je mee kunt doen. Ga naar http://www.hetnet.nl

Yes it is... 1881Dwelling: Jackson Ing Census Place: Sowerby In Halifax, York, England Source: FHL Film 1342056 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 4416 Folio 66 Page 1 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Josuha MITCHELL M 65 M Sowerby, York, England Rel: Head Occ: Farmer 18 Acres Acheh MITCHELL M 65 F Collan-Bob, York, England Rel: Wife Henry MITCHELL U 26 M Hand Carr Mill, York, England Rel: Son Occ: Clogger (Mr) Mary MITCHELL U 31 F Swamp, York, England Rel: Daur Hannah MITCHELL U 24 F Hand Carr, York, England Rel: Daur Mike & Lori Mitchell <trimel1@bigpond.net.au> wrote:Hi Everyone, I would like to ask if someone who owns a copy of the 1`881 census if they could do a look up for me... Here is the internet version and I was just wondering if the christain name of Joshua's wife is ACHEH on the Cd Version. Kind regards Lori Mitchell Josuha MITCHELL Head M Male 65 Sowerby, York, England Farmer 18 Acres Acheh MITCHELL Wife M Female 65 Collan-Bob, York, England Henry MITCHELL Son U Male 26 Hand Carr Mill, York, England Clogger (Mr) Mary MITCHELL Daur U Female 31 Swamp, York, England Hannah MITCHELL Daur U Female 24 Hand Carr, York, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Jackson Ing Census Place Sowerby In Halifax, York, England Family History Library Film 1342056 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4416 / 66 Page Number 1 ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== Please NO VIRUS warnings or OFF TOPIC messages on this List. Any warnings regarding a virus please send them to the list admin who will decide if the warning should be posted. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

Hi List, Re FreeBMD's For all you GRO index starved genealogist........ It looks to me as if they are including ALL BMD's up to and including 1905. Just found one of my husbands skeletons....... Regards. Elaine Pickard. Ottawa. Canada. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.471 / Virus Database: 269 - Release Date: 11/04/03

[For Gavin in NZ,but they could be your rellies too] Hi Gavin, I had 50% success with your 2 addresses. There wasn't one single FIRTH anywhere on Wilfred Street. Raven Street was a different kettle of firths. Bradford Census 1891. 16,Raven Street. [All surnamed FIRTH ; all born Bradford] Robert A.head,marr.aged 45,[occupation unreadable--'Tinner'? 'Tanner'? 'Farmer' 'Sinner'--hopeless !!!!!] Margaret,wife,aged 45. Mary(?)K.dau.aged 24,Worsted weaver. John K.son,aged 19,Gaslamp lighter. Margaret,dau.aged 14,Worsted spinner. Joseph,son,aged 17. Emma G(?),dau.aged 12. Sarah E.dau.aged 10 ?`11 ?,badly written Florie,dau.aged 8 Clara,dau.aged 6 Tom,son,aged 4. [There was no occupation given for Joseph,Emma or Sarah ; simply 2 dashes beneath the words'Worsted spinner'for Margaret.Did it mean that those 3 were also Worsted spinners ? ] ======================================== Hope all this makes sense for you,Gavin,and anyone else who was reading it. Cheers-------Derek.

Hi. Anyone interested in Bottmley here are a few Births from my scans Births 1898 Third Quarter.. All BOTTOMLEY Ada Elizabeth - Hackney 521 Albert - Halifax 390 Alice - Keighley 219 Alice May - Leeds 543 Annie Maria - Holbeck 330 Arthur Leslie - Halifax 457 Austin Kilner - Huddersfield 274 Blanch - Bradford 8 Clara - Oldham 675 Clarence Otto - Halfax 427 Clarice - Huddersfield 274 Cyril - Halifax 427 Cyril John - St Saviour 122 Doris Eubank - Prestwich 431 Edith - Halifax 417 Elsie - Halifax 473 Frank - Oldham 654 Gertrude Eleanor - Saddleworth 260 Harry - Salford 134 Harry - Saddleworth 257 Hilda - Burnley 302 John - Dewsbury 706 John Henry - Melksham 125 John William - Sculcoates 200 Maria Jane - Todmorden 245 May - Burnley 287 Minnie Rosa - Hackney 488 Nellie - Keighley More later Kind regards Lori Mitchell

Hi Those who have ancestors buried in Undercliffe Cemetary might find this site of interest as I did, as my GGrrandfather Thomas BROWN 'S unmarked grave is there (which I actually visited nearly 30 years ago- even though it was just waist high weeds and grass- the caretaker was able to find the number of it. ) http://www.bbc.co.uk/bradford/sense_of_place/hidden_death_1.shtml Conditions were quite horrific in the early 1800 to mid 1800's in the handling of burials or I should say mishandling. Enjoy Best regards Jackie PICKARD Fyfe Montreal

G'day, Anyone have any connections to an Emily Lightowler. Marriage : Sept 1888 LIGHTOWLER Emily Bradford Y. 9b 289 Mitchell James Bradford,Y. 9b 289 Kind regards Lori Mitchell

G'day, I am interested in any members of this family... Vincent Crowther married Alice Mitchell daughter of Jonas Mitchell of Manchester Rd West Bowling. I have yet to discover the marriage date but I know they came to Australia as a married couple in 1911 or 1912 I have photos of this couple in Australia in Manly outside a block of flats called "Odsal Dene". These flats are still there today. I also have picture of them in India at a tea party. At one stage this couple lived in no 1 Nab Wood, Shipley. It is described as a bungalow. Would be very interested to hear from anyone with any connections to the said persons listed below Kind regards Lori Mitchell 1881 CENSUS for Crowther Source FHL Film 1342040 - Ref RG11 Piece 4355 Folio 104 Page 2 Address: Royd Ter, Heptonstall (close to Bradford) Abraham Crowther 33 married occup Oatcake Baker b. Walsden,Lancashire Mary Crowther 33 wife b. Rochdale, Lanchashire George Crowther 11 son occup Scholar bWalsden , Lancashire. Betty Crowther 9 daug occup Scholar b.Heptonstall, York Tom Crowther 6 son occup Scholar b.Heptonstall, York James Crowther 3 son b. Heptonstall, York VINCENT Crowther 1 Son b..Heptonstall, York 1891 CENSUS Source: Disk 3 Folio 12/3543 30 Page 27 Address: 6 Top of the Hill HEBDEN BRIDGE, YRKS Abraham Crowther 43 Head occup. Oat Cake Baker b Walsden Lancs Mary 43 wife b. Smallbridge, Lancs Betty 19 dau occup. ? Tailoress b. Hebden Bridge,Yorkshire Tom 16 son occup Mechanic Apprentice b Hebden Bridge James ? W 13 son occup Assistant Baker b Hebden Bridge Vincent G 11 son Scholar b Hebden Bridge Venas 9 dau Scholar b Hebden Bridge 1901 Census Ref : RG13 Piece 4082 - Folio 14 - Page 19 - Schedule No. 152 Address : Top oth Hill Abraham Crowther 54 marr Oat Cake Baker/working at home b.Walsden, Lancs Mary Crowther 53 wife b. Walsden Lancs Thomas Crowther 26 son singl occup Dyers Labourer Cotton b Hebden Bridge James W. Crowther 23 son singl occup Dyers Labourer Cotton bHebden Bridge Vincent G. Crowther 21 son singl occup Assistant Baker b.Hebden Bridge Married - Alice Mitchell - daughter of Jonas Mitchell Venas Crowther 18 daug singl occup Machinist Fustian Clothing b Hebden Bridge Mary Alice Crowther 9 Grand Daughter

G'day, Here is the information I have and wish to hear from anyone who may be able to provide a little more information in regards to John Midgley or his children. Tabitha was the sister of Nancy Womersley nee Mitchell. The father was Francis Mitchell and mother Hannah Hodgson John Midgley married Tabitha Mitchell 29th August 1830 - Tong Children of John and Tabitha are Hannah Midgley 1831 Joshua Midgley 1833 Sarah Midgley 1841 Samuel Midgley 1842 Mitchell Midgley 1855 ? Finally here is the 1881 census information for the family. Samuel is missing from the group 1881 CENSUS FHL Film 1342059 RG11 Piece 4432 Folio 9 Page 12 Address Bierley Lane North Bierley, York John MIDGLEY 70 Head Mar occup Farmer Of 13 Acres & Woolstapler b. Bradford abt 1811 Tabitha 70 wife occup Farmers Wife b. Bradford abt 1810 Hannah 50 daug singl occup Dressmaker b. Bradford abt 1831 Sarah 40 daug singl occup Dressmaker b. Bradford abt 1841 Mitchell 26 son singl occup Cashier in Worsted Manufacturers b.Bradford abt 1855 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1881 CENSUS Film No. 1342059 Ref RG11 4432 Folio 9 Page 12 Address Bierley Lane North Bierley, York Next door to Tabitha Joshua MIDGLEY 48 Head Mar occup Woolsorter b.Bradford, York abt 1833 Margaret 49 wife b.Bradford, York abt 1832 Frank 24 son singl occup Stuff Warehouseman b. Bradford abt 1857 John 16 son singl occup Stuff Weaver b. Bradford abt 1865

G'day everyone, Is there anyone else who may have Womersley in their tree.... I would be interested to hear from you... This in the couple in question John Womersley married Nancy Mitchel - 4th September 1819 - Calverley 2 possible children so far and if there are more I do not know about them. Hannah baptised 1820 William baptised 1822 Kind regards Lori Mitchell

Hi all, Have just joined the list in hopes of breaking down a big brickwall. My Great grandmother, according to the 1901 census aged 37, was born in Bradford Yks. She does not appear on the 1881 census, no birth registered on the GRO index anytime in the 1860's, no registered marriages anytime between 1880 and 1901. Also no marriage for her in the GRO Index of Marriages registered at British Consulates marriages 1880-1895. Of 6 children, 2 born in Romania, and the rest supposedly born in London, only my grandmothers birth certificate is registered. Her name on this is given as Aimee Florence CARNEGIE, formerly WILCOX. According to family story, she had been married before to a WILCOX and her maiden name was WHITEHALL. Two other branches of my family, from other children of this marriage (Carnegie) who I have only recently made contact with, all have the same story about her maiden name and first marriage. Aimee Florence WHITEHALL was apparently a Catholic, and the eldest of her children was buried, age 12, in St Patricks Catholic Cemetery, Leytonstone, London. My query is what were the names and how many Catholic Churches were there in Bradford in the 1860's. As a Catholic, am I right in thinking there would definitely be a baptism for her somewhere? Also, would I be right in thinking that her first husband would have had to have died and that divorce would not have been an option in the 1880's? I am beginning to wonder if maybe there is no marriage recorded because if the first husband was not dead then maybe they just said they were married. Apologies for the length of this but wanted to give all the background I have, which as you see isn't much at all. Hope someone can give me an idea of where to go next. Cheers Lynne in NZ

Hi Michael and list, Have just joined this list and I have used the website. Mainly because our local FHC does not have any of the GRO Indexes. So it is worthwhile for me. Works much the same as sitting down reading through fiche looking for entries. Pges are listed the same as you would find on fiche, by the first 3 letters of the first and last entries on each page. You can only do your initial search by Surname and years, first names don't figure. I personally think the biggest problem is that you are only able to search by the first 3 letters of a surname. This means if searching for WHITEHALL, it has sometimes given me over 20 pages (and as many as 50+) to choose from to look at ( it appears some years are not alphabetised properly, so got every page from WAA-WZZ to choose from). Other times it gives 3-5 pages of WHI, so you take a chance on picking the right page. If like me you can't search the indexes personally it is a wonderful tool, but it is paying for pages that you don't need to search because you have a choice of more than one that I hope they will be able to correct sometime However as its the only complete index available for me I will definitely keep using it. Cheers Lynne in NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: <Parkhlmhist@aol.com> To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 8:26 AM Subject: [ BRAD] Website query > There is a web site for the Family Research Link (http://www.1837online.com), > which has copies of the microfiched GRO indexes on line. > > It is a "Pay per View" site, and, before I try it out, I was wondering if > anybody has tried it and has any comments as to its usefulness (or > otherwise). > > Michael from Lancashire > > ______________________________

Hello Listers, My great great grandmother JANE THORNTON married JAMES HINDLE at Kildwick on 28.8.1842. She was the daughter of JOSEPH THORNTON married to MARY TEAL on 13.2.1809 at Kildwick and they had other children as follows : Henry .b.2.6.1810 married to Elizabeth Binns on 11.12.1828 George.b.23.5.1812.married to Mary Smith on 23.12.1832 at Leeds. Jane. b. 23.12.1815 bapt.29.6.1837 m.28.8.1842 to James Hindle at Kildwick Johanna. b.24.10.1818 John b. 14.5.1822 Thomas b.25.7.1825 Joseph b.17.2.1828 William b.17.7.1831 Elizabeth b.1.4.1834. This family were members of Ickornshaw Methodist, parish of Kildwick. If anyone can see any connection to any of Jane's siblings, pleased to hear from you. Kindest regards, Derek Hindle in Tasmania, Australia.

Parkhlmhist@aol.com wrote..... > There is a web site for the Family Research Link (http://www.1837online.com), > which has copies of the microfiched GRO indexes on line. > > It is a "Pay per View" site, and, before I try it out, I was wondering if > anybody has tried it and has any comments as to its usefulness (or > otherwise). > > Michael from Lancashire > RUSH out and buy the latest issue of Family Tree Magazine (April). It has a major feature on the website. I have not tried it myself and have no intentions of doing so, since I am fortunate enough to live within 20 miles of the Family Records Centre at Islington and go there constantly, where you can access the original indexes in volumes for free. However, I have heard some criticisms of the site inasmuch as if you are looking for a very common surname and have only a vague idea of when and where a birth, marriage or death took place, then it could cost you quite a lot of money. If you are certain of the when-and-where, fine, but if you are looking for someone, say, born between 1860 and 1870 you will have to search through 40 quarters comprising hundreds of pages! Be clear about this - the site does NOT offer a transcribed index (except for entries after 1984), but scanned images from the original pages. It's the same thing as looking through page after page of the original books or microfiche, but you will be doing it online and totting up the cost. There is, of course, an alternative. Many libraries and record offices have copies of the GRO Indexes on fiche (the same ones as the website owners scanned them from). There are bound to be a number of libraries in Lancashire that possess copies (equally, there many in Yorkshire that have them). Find out where the nearest one is to where you live and then spend a day going there to inspect them. It may be the cost of your travel, etc, will be cheaper than spending ages online. Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith

"Arthur & Pauline Kennedy" <akpak@waitrose.com> wrote... > Please could anyone tell me where the registers are kept for Cowling Hill > Baptist Chapel, in the parish of Kildwick? The NIPR gives no information at > all.> I SUSPECT that as the NIPR for the West Riding does not list the whereabouts of any registers (and you are correct, I've just checked for myself), there is a strong possibility that they don't exist. However, IF there are any registers, then the most likely place they will be is the PRO. As you will know, the NIPR says the chapel was founded in 1744 and was a branch of Bacup, Lancs, until 1756. The only other reference is to the Baptist Handbook 1861. Not very helpful, I know! Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith

Roy, Thanks for your reply. I will take your comments on board. Regards Michael from Lancashire

Hello I have a ¼ page of HOLMES men who are listed on the above publication - Bradford Volume. If anyone recognises any of these men let me know & I will send you the complete entry. HOLMES F [my grandfather] RGA of 11 Wordsworth Street HOLMES G. West Riding Regiment of 126 Ripon Street HOLMES J Kings Royal Rifle Corps of 14 Wild Boar Lane HOLMES JE Royal Engineers of 22 Ash Street, Otley Road HOLMES JW 18th West Yorks of 122 Garnett Street HOLMES R 6th West Yorkshire Regiment of ?? Ash Street Kind regards Judith Kettlewell

Please could anyone tell me where the registers are kept for Cowling Hill Baptist Chapel, in the parish of Kildwick? The NIPR gives no information at all. I am looking for the birth of Eleanor (or Ellen) EMMOTT in around 1767 (or a later baptism entry): she was a minor when she married John STOW in 1786, and according to her MI she was 76 when she died in Feb 1844. She doesn't appear in the Keighley FHS transcript of the Kildwick Parish Church baptism register, or on the IGI, and as there are several EMMOTTs in the Cowling Hill MIs, I wondered if her birth might be recorded there. Thanks for any help, Arthur Kennedy akpak@waitrose.com http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~arthurk/

There is a web site for the Family Research Link (http://www.1837online.com), which has copies of the microfiched GRO indexes on line. It is a "Pay per View" site, and, before I try it out, I was wondering if anybody has tried it and has any comments as to its usefulness (or otherwise). Michael from Lancashire