Please can contributors use meaningful Subject Headings. Like many others, I just don't have the time (or the inclination) to open items with vague headings. Items with subjects like "ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-D Digest V03 #131", or even "Research Interests" have no chance! > -----Original Message----- > From: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-D-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-D-request@rootsweb.com] > Sent: 21 April 2003 09:01 > To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-D@rootsweb.com > Subject: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-D Digest V03 #131 > > << Message: ATT00027.eml (792 bytes) >> << Message: [ BRAD] Early Bradford Recusants (1.07 KB) >> << Message: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-D Digest V03 #130 (1.14 KB) >> << Message: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-D Digest V03 #130 (1.01 KB) >> << Message: [ BRAD] RAG - deaths - initial 'B' TO 'E'- 1929 Bradford (945 bytes) >> << Message: [ BRAD] The STory of Wool in Photographs - e-bay #3515001596 (1.54 KB) >> << Message: [ BRAD] The Story of Wool - e-bay e-bay #3515001596 (1.72 KB) >>

Hi List Due to many problems I have had to change my ISP, this will be my new e-mail from now on. I am only just getting to grips with using Internet Explorer, after AOL.....and get there I will - eventually. Just come across this on e-bayNo connection here......BUT looks like a good book to own.if you had ancestors in the mills. Description The Story of Yorkshire Wool in Photographs by Ian Beesley with an introduction by Gary Firth was published in 1987. I understand that it is now out of print but I have been fotunate enough to find this brand new, unread copy. A beautiful book it measures just under 8 3/4" by 11 1/8" and has about 136 glossy pages. The back cover says "....Over 100 pictures in these pages cover the history of wool in Yorkshire from the Bronze Age, through the period of the monasteries in the Middle Ages, to the age of industrialisation in the nineteenth century, and up to the presetn. The book also records the processes through which wool passes as it is changed from a raw material into finished cloth, and shows some important side industries such as bobbin and shuttle making. There are certain kinds of information that photography cannot communicate. For this reason the book starts with an introduction by Gary Firth, an historian who has made a significant contribution to our understanding o! f the wool industry. This introduction acts as a fine completment to Ian Beesley's evocative and informative photographs." The National Museum of Photography, Film and Television at Bradford raised funds to enable Ian to work full-time on this project for a year. They were impressed with his enthusiasm and commitment, as well as by his photographic skills and they also felt that the subject itself was important, given that wool played, and contiues to play, such an important part in the economy and working life of Yorkshire. As well as this book there was an exhibition of photographs at the museum in 1987. Jan in Bronte Country Co List Admin Eng. Bradford List Admin Clewer Mailing List.

Hi List No connection here......BUT looks like a good book to own.if you had ancestors in the mills. Description The Story of Yorkshire Wool in Photographs by Ian Beesley with an introduction by Gary Firth was published in 1987. I understand that it is now out of print but I have been fotunate enough to find this brand new, unread copy. A beautiful book it measures just under 8 3/4" by 11 1/8" and has about 136 glossy pages. The back cover says "....Over 100 pictures in these pages cover the history of wool in Yorkshire from the Bronze Age, through the period of the monasteries in the Middle Ages, to the age of industrialisation in the nineteenth century, and up to the presetn. The book also records the processes through which wool passes as it is changed from a raw material into finished cloth, and shows some important side industries such as bobbin and shuttle making. There are certain kinds of information that photography cannot communicate. For this reason the book starts with an introduction by Gary Firth, an historian who has made a significant contribution to our understanding o! f the wool industry. This introduction acts as a fine completment to Ian Beesley's evocative and informative photographs." The National Museum of Photography, Film and Television at Bradford raised funds to enable Ian to work full-time on this project for a year. They were impressed with his enthusiasm and commitment, as well as by his photographic skills and they also felt that the subject itself was important, given that wool played, and contiues to play, such an important part in the economy and working life of Yorkshire. As well as this book there was an exhibition of photographs at the museum in 1987. Jan in Bronte Country

Hi everyone, I was sent an A4 sheet in error from Bradford Library, as far as I can tell dated 1929 (paper unknown) and after informing the archivist, promised I'd post them anyway for the benefit of others - brief details below, email me if more is required. BIRCH Clifton Middleton aged 75, husband of Agnes, Elizabeth Street. BRACEWELL Joseph of Windhill in his 70th year. BRIGGS Sarah Jane aged 72 of Prospect Road. COATES Thomas aged 56 years of Falkland Road, Eccleshill. DRACUP Hannah, aged 74 widow of Charles, Hill Top , Low Moor. DRIVER Rosannah, wife of John, aged 59 years of Shipley. ELLIS Harold, internment New Cemetery, Whitechapel Lane, Cleckheaton, died Eye and Ear Hospital. And a birth.....ROPER a daughter to Mr and Mrs F. A. ROPER (nee Annie PARKIN) , The Whetley Grange, Ingleby Road, Bradford on November 20. Warmest Regards, Sue. Stourbridge, West Midlands

Hi Roy - this James Bond was a Quaker, and is one of the witnesses to my 5xgt grandparents' marriage; most useful list of people. Thanks, Mal. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy@stockdillfhs.org.uk> To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 8:46 PM Subject: [ BRAD] Early Bradford Recusants > IT'S been a while since I posted some Bradford history (for earlier > messages re Bradford millowners, theatres, Chartists, etc, see the > list archives), so in the next few days I will post a few more > messages, hopefully including as many names as possible. Here's the > first... > > In the early years of the reign of Charles II, a relentless > persecution was pursued against Roman Catholics and Nonconformists > who neglected to attend divine service according to the Established > Church (Anglican). These people were called Recusants and were > proceeded against vigorously. There were two classes: Popish > Recusants (Catholic) and Dissenters (Nonconformists), which included > persons classed as indifferent, known as "Recusants Simple". > > Here's a list of people from the parish of Bradford who appeared > before Sessions at York for Recusancy between 1665 and 1671, as > named in the "York Depositions" (published by the Surtees Society)... > > Bradford: Mary SQUIRE, spinster, Richard JOWETT, Ann CROWTHER, Jas. > MARSHALL, James BOND (yes, really!!!), Moses SYKES, Mattw. WRIGHT, Wm > DAWSON and Mary, his wife. > > Thornton: Edwd HULLEY. > > Allerton-cum-Wilsden: George FABER. > > Haworth: Christr. JONES, Joseph SMITH, Wm CLAYTON junr, John CLAYTON > junr, Wm CLAYTON, John PIGHILLS, John TAYLOR, Jonas TURNER and Nathan > HEATON. > > Horton: Thomas CLOUGH and Mary, his wife, John PIGHILLS. > > Heaton-cum-Clayton: Jas BRADLEY, ----- JOWETT, widow, John BRADLEY, > John KELLETT. > > Bowling: Chrysis WALMESLEY, spinster. > > North Bierley: John VERITY. > > * Source: "Continuations & Additions to the History of Bradford and > its Parish", by John James FSA, originally published in 1866. > > Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) > SoG Executive & Director of Projects, FFHS > Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > Please NO VIRUS warnings or OFF TOPIC messages on this List. Any warnings regarding a virus please send them to the list admin who will decide if the warning should be posted. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

"Mal Pace" <mal_pace@ihug.co.nz> wrote..... > Hi Roy - this James Bond was a Quaker, and is one of the witnesses to my > 5xgt grandparents' marriage; most useful list of people. Thanks, Mal.> HE appears also (if indeed it is the same man, which I would not care to swear to or put money on!) in the book "Sufferings of Early Quakers: Yorkshire 1652 to 1690" as having been jailed at York in 1682 and dying in prison there in 1684. But is it the same James Bond who appeared in the list of Bradford Recusants? I honestly could not say, but perhaps you have more evidence? There is another lister here who descends from this man, with whom I have had some e-mail exchange. I am sure she will make herself known to you, Mal. Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) SoG Executive & Director of Projects, FFHS Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith

G'day List, Could anyone tell me when this above church was pulled down. I have it on a map in 1855 It was just up from Edmund st on the corner of Little Horton Lane and Manchester St. Senior way where it crosses Edmund and Wilton St is where it was. Ebor St was at the edge of the Church as well as John St all gone now. Regards Owen Clough Christchurch Nz

Dear Dawn, Thank you so much for the information. I will indeed look up Charles II, time frame. There is a "story" in the Haslam family. It tells of one of the Haslam rellies, being a commoner playmate, of a young "King" of England. Since I have read, and found there to have been a royal residence, in Yorkshire, It makes the story more appealing. Blessing to you all, Cindy Brewer Dooley Having a beautiful Easter Sunday, here in Denver, Colorado! >From: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-D-request@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com >To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-D@rootsweb.com >Subject: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-D Digest V03 #130 >Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 13:00:36 -0600 > ><< message2.txt >> ><< message4.txt >> ><< message6.txt >> ><< message8.txt >> ><< message10.txt >> ><< message12.txt >> ><< message15.txt >> ><< message17.txt >> _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

Roy, Thank you for the information. I thought since you gave the "history" on Charles II, that maybe some dates, were at hand?! It's always nice, when years are included in the history from the "Mother country". I lived in England, for about 17 months, enjoyed my stay. I find that having a rellie, makes me feel even closer to England. My grandfather Preston Sherlock Haslam, was very English, in his carriage and demeanor. I apologise for "acting like a Yank", and not looking up this information. Thank you, again for the information. Cynthia Brewer Dooley HASLAM, WOGAN, CALVERT, CONSTANTINE >From: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-D-request@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com >To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-D@rootsweb.com >Subject: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-D Digest V03 #130 >Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 13:00:36 -0600 > ><< message2.txt >> ><< message4.txt >> ><< message6.txt >> ><< message8.txt >> ><< message10.txt >> ><< message12.txt >> ><< message15.txt >> ><< message17.txt >> _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

Yoiks! Just about sure it's a typo Roy :D but Charles succeeding in 1949 would be a bit difficult to do! ;-) Cindy - as Roy says there are lot's of web-sites out there on the reign of Charles II and as with all sites some are good and some are bad. It's a very interesting period of English history and well worth a second look even if you aren't particularly interested in the English Monarchy per se. Bright Blessings Dawn in a suddenly quite chilly Swindon (though once again peaceful now that teenage daughter has returned to her father :D ) -----Original Message----- From: Roy Stockdill To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: 20/04/03 10:24 Subject: Re: [ BRAD] Re: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-D Digest V03 #128 "Cindy Dooley" <cinsings@hotmail.com> wrote..... > Roy, What years fall under the reign of Charles II? My History of the > monarchs, is very limited!> JUST this once I'll tell you - but, really, such information is very basic and could easily be found just by entering "Charles II" in google. I haven't bothered to try, but I imagine you'd come up with hundreds of websites! Charles II technically acceded to the throne on the execution of his father Charles I on January 30 1949, but of course spent many years in exile during the Commonwealth period and rule of Oliver Cromwell. Charles eventually came to rule on the Restoration of the monarchy in 1660. He died on February 6 1685 and was succeeded by his incompetent brother James II. Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) SoG Executive & Director of Projects, FFHS Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== The Mailing List Archives are at:- http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ENG-YKS-BRAD FORD http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ENG-YKS-BRADFORD ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Richard Tetley <richard.tetley@ntlworld.com> wrote..... > Roy Stockdill wrote: > > > JUST this once I'll tell you - > > Be a good chap and please turn off your caps lock. > In netiquette, its known as shouting. > We know, from your earlier posting on this issue, that you'd want us to be 'pc' on this list!> Dear Richard Very amusing, but your comment is hardly relevant to my earlier message on the subject. I pointed out that the sender of a total of six messages had written the whole lot ALL in caps throughout. This is not in any way the same thing as "capping" the initial word of a message. As most people know, I almost always cap the first word of my messages. This is a long-established newspaper tradition and old habits die hard! It is also a modern desktop publishing tradition followed by many people. For instance, the first word in every story that ever appears in the Journal of One-name Studies is always in caps, and if the first word happens to be an "I" then the first two words are capped. It's a long-standing publishing tradition. Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) SoG Executive & Director of Projects, FFHS Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith

Roy Stockdill wrote: > JUST this once I'll tell you - Be a good chap and please turn off your caps lock. In netiquette, its known as shouting. We know, from your earlier posting on this issue, that you'd want us to be 'pc' on this list! Regards Richard -- Born in Sheffield, but currently in Nottingham UK. Family names:- ASHFORTH, CAVE, CHAMPION, HODGES, HOPE, JACKSON, NICHOLSON, SIMPSON, SLEE, TETLEY, WALKER, WESTOVER, WOOLLEN, WILLIAMS. Home Website: http://freespace.virgin.net/richard.tetley/

"tpickard" <tpickard@sympatico.ca> wrote..... > As a native-born Yorkshireman myself, may I respectfully suggest that > there are times when it is better to refer to a spade as a "personal > earth-moving device".> I cannot think what you mean! No political correctness here, I hope? Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) SoG Executive & Director of Projects, FFHS Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith

"Cindy Dooley" <cinsings@hotmail.com> wrote..... > Roy, What years fall under the reign of Charles II? My History of the > monarchs, is very limited!> JUST this once I'll tell you - but, really, such information is very basic and could easily be found just by entering "Charles II" in google. I haven't bothered to try, but I imagine you'd come up with hundreds of websites! Charles II technically acceded to the throne on the execution of his father Charles I on January 30 1949, but of course spent many years in exile during the Commonwealth period and rule of Oliver Cromwell. Charles eventually came to rule on the Restoration of the monarchy in 1660. He died on February 6 1685 and was succeeded by his incompetent brother James II. Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) SoG Executive & Director of Projects, FFHS Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith

Can anyone help, My great great grandparents, John and Mary SAMMON (nee FOGARTY) moved to Bradford from Ireland between 1860 and 1870. They lived in the Bolon Road area of Bradford. The Fogartys were apparently related to the whisky distillers of the same name? John Sammon was a stone mason who was involved in the building of St Mary's RC Church. Can anyone help me with any info on the above? Cheers RC --

Dear Roy, As a native-born Yorkshireman myself, may I respectfully suggest that there are times when it is better to refer to a spade as a "personal earth-moving device". Regards, Tim Pickard Ottawa, Canada

IT'S been a while since I posted some Bradford history (for earlier messages re Bradford millowners, theatres, Chartists, etc, see the list archives), so in the next few days I will post a few more messages, hopefully including as many names as possible. Here's the first... In the early years of the reign of Charles II, a relentless persecution was pursued against Roman Catholics and Nonconformists who neglected to attend divine service according to the Established Church (Anglican). These people were called Recusants and were proceeded against vigorously. There were two classes: Popish Recusants (Catholic) and Dissenters (Nonconformists), which included persons classed as indifferent, known as "Recusants Simple". Here's a list of people from the parish of Bradford who appeared before Sessions at York for Recusancy between 1665 and 1671, as named in the "York Depositions" (published by the Surtees Society)... Bradford: Mary SQUIRE, spinster, Richard JOWETT, Ann CROWTHER, Jas. MARSHALL, James BOND (yes, really!!!), Moses SYKES, Mattw. WRIGHT, Wm DAWSON and Mary, his wife. Thornton: Edwd HULLEY. Allerton-cum-Wilsden: George FABER. Haworth: Christr. JONES, Joseph SMITH, Wm CLAYTON junr, John CLAYTON junr, Wm CLAYTON, John PIGHILLS, John TAYLOR, Jonas TURNER and Nathan HEATON. Horton: Thomas CLOUGH and Mary, his wife, John PIGHILLS. Heaton-cum-Clayton: Jas BRADLEY, ----- JOWETT, widow, John BRADLEY, John KELLETT. Bowling: Chrysis WALMESLEY, spinster. North Bierley: John VERITY. * Source: "Continuations & Additions to the History of Bradford and its Parish", by John James FSA, originally published in 1866. Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) SoG Executive & Director of Projects, FFHS Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith

Roy, What years fall under the reign of Charles II? My History of the monarchs, is very limited! Cindy Brewer Dooley, Denver, Colorado >From: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-D-request@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com >To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-D@rootsweb.com >Subject: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-D Digest V03 #128 >Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 05:03:34 -0600 > ><< message2.txt >> ><< message4.txt >> ><< message6.txt >> ><< message8.txt >> _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

"michael morgan" <dede.morgan@btopenworld.com> wrote..... > I apologise to anybody if I have offended them, with my caps on.. > IT'S not a question of offending anyone (I certainly wasn't offended, for one), but a matter of whether you could expect any replies to help your research, given the form in which your messages were posted. I was simply trying to explain to you that messages in all upper case are extremely difficult to read and most people will not bother but skip over them. I certainly do. If you expect sensible replies - which you rightly and properly do - then it helps to learn the rules and follow them. That is all I was saying and my advice was genuinely meant for your benefit, not as a means of belittling you. If it came across that way, apologies, but that's the way I give advice. Being a hard-nosed Yorkshireman, we tend to be blunt and call a spade a spade. I seriously suggest it might help you to look up the archives of this list and see what has been posted before. There has been much valuable background posted on Bradford by myself and others, which you can find by going to the archives. You will find these by going to the main rootsweb site, www.rootsweb.com, clicking on mailing lists, England and then Bradford (this list) and you will find a facility to browse or search the archives. Even though you are not apparently a complete newbie, could I suggest it still might help you to take a look at my Newbies' Guide, which is an 8,500-word resume of basic genealogical research in England (with particular emphasis on Yorkshire), available for download and printing out if you wish. Many people tell me they find it helpful. The only thing missing is in the section on censuses, where I need to update it to take in the 1901. I will do this as soon as my myriad other genealogical commitments allow! In the meantime, if you wish to know anything about Bradford, feel free to ask and I will do my best to answer. I was born there and have a small library of books about the city. Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) SoG Executive & Director of Projects, FFHS Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith

Debbie, good on you for having a go, it's a bit daunting when you know there are all those experienced people out there. I am still not sure if I am 'doing it right' So keep on keeping on don't worry about it. Carol