Hi Everyone, I am having trouble accessing the 1901 census... http://www.census.pro.gov.uk/ Is this still the web address Kind regards Lori Mitchell

Hi Everyone, I came across this during my EDMONDSON Will transcriptions and I wondered if this may be the same 'Park' that the MITCHELL brother's owned years before but possibly used as a hospital at this time. Or may this be another link between the EDMONDSON'S and MITCHELL'S much later? 1965 John EDMONDSON of Home View Terrace, Heaton, Bradford died 7 Feb 1965 at The Park, Rooley Lane, Bradford admin with Will proved Wakefield 16 Mar to Ralph Edmondson, wool warehouseman £1171 Can anyone provide any information on this please? Warmest Regards, Sue. Stourbridge, West Midlands Researching EDMONDSON and variants anytime, anywhere As well as:- Cambridgeshire WALSHAM Liverpool and Lancashire CALLAN, DILLON, GARVEY, Ann HOLT b1835, HUGHES, LEAH, LEEKE, McLENNON, NICHOLSON, ROBERTS, THOMPSON, WALSHAM Wirral:- Henry CLARE, DILLON, EDMONDSON, MORRIN, WYER/WYRE, WALSHAM (late 1800's) Yorkshire:- BARRACLOUGH, BARRON/BERRON, BLAMIRES, CHARLESWORTH, CLOUGH, EDMONDSON, FIRTH, ILLINGWORTH, JOWETT, KNOWLES, LUMB, MITCHELL, PRIESTLEY, SYKES Norfolk :- HARDY, JUBA, SHORTEN, WYER, Northampton :- TEAL, WALDEN http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/suerylands - password Edmondson http://www.gencircles.com/users/srylands/2

I am really, really pleased. I just received in the mail this morning a birth certificate which takes me one generation backwards. The occupation of the father is listed as - I THINK - Shew- on one line and then the word Man below that. Has anyone ever heard of a Shew-Man or can anyone come up with an alternative spelling? Shew-Man doesn't sound right. Lynda in Montreal

It looks like the server is down at the PRO for some reason - even their "home" server isn't responding.... hope they aren't long in sorting out whatever problems they are having...... -----Original Message----- From: Mike & Lori Mitchell [mailto:trimel1@bigpond.net.au] Sent: 21 May 2003 08:09 To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ BRAD] 1901 Census ? Anyone else.. Hi Everyone, I am having trouble accessing the 1901 census... http://www.census.pro.gov.uk/ Is this still the web address Kind regards Lori Mitchell ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== Do not advertise commercial or non genealogical content links after or within your messages without first seeking permission from the Admin. Do not use the list as a port hole to advertise website urls. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Could svks kindly look up the marriage of SAMUEL SOWDEN and MARY please? Samuel and Mary were both born in Bradford Yorkshire in 1831. Please could you tell me the surname of Mary and where they got married. TIA Diane Sowden --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.481 / Virus Database: 277 - Release Date: 5/13/03

G'day, Whoops Mitchells' are listed 52nd among the most common surnames....it gets worse. Kind regards Lori Mitchell

Hi Listers, If you are like me and researching the surname Mitchell then we are in deep trouble...82nd most common surname... It's a long way from 362nd Kind regards Lori Mitchell

The Family History Section of the Yorkshire Archaelogical Society based at Claremont in Leeds have just launched their new website. See: www.yorkshireroots.org.uk Please circulate to other suitable lists. Thanks Jackie

this was emailed to me by a work colleague who knows about my obsession :D Many many years ago when I was twenty three, I got married to a widow who was pretty as could be. This widow had a grown-up daughter who had hair of red. My father fell in love with her, And soon the two were wed. This made my dad my son-in-law And changed my very life. My daughter was my mother, For she was my father's wife. To complicate the matters worse, Although it brought me joy, I soon became the father Of a bouncing baby boy. My little baby then became A brother-in-law to dad. And so became my uncle, Though it made me very sad. For if he was my uncle, Then that also made him brother To the widow's grown-up daughter Who, of course, was my step-mother. Father's wife then had a son, Who kept them on the run. And he became my grandson, For he was my daughter's son. My wife is now my mother's mother And it makes me blue. Because, although she is my wife, She is my grandma too. If my wife is my grandmother, Then I am her grandchild. And every time I think of it, It simply drives me wild. For now I have become The strangest case you ever saw. As the husband of my grandmother, I am my own grandpa.

Hi All Just received a book in the post this morning - Wills in the York Registry 1636-1652 (printed in 1888 for the Yorkshire Archaeological Society) and pasted in the back is a newspaper clipping listing of those from the Bradford Parish. Here's the report & list [Bradford Observer(?) 24th July 1888]: "The Yorkshire Archaeological and Topographical Association have just issued the fourth volume of the Record Series (a publication in addition to the ordinary journal of the Association). The contents comprise a record of the Wills proved in the York Registry between 1636 and 1652. As Dr. Collins, the editor, explains in the introductory part, the usual practice of copying wills into registers was temporarily discontinued during the Civil Wars when, owing to the disturbed state of the country, most of the business of the kingdom came to a standstill. As a consequence, the will proved in the Exchequer and Prerogative Courts in York between the years 1636 and 1652 are to be found in bundles, either as originals or copies. It is from the materials accumulated, and which were never formally entered up in the registry, that the present volume has been compiled, and it accordingly constitutes an index to all wills proved during the period. The Council of the Association have it in contemplation to publish a complete index to the Wills in the York Registry from the earliest period, a boon which will be highly appreciated by archaeologists. Meanwhile the instalment now given will be none the less prized by those interested in genealogy and local history generally. The Volume is, as usual, excellently well printed, and the reputation of Dr. Colilns may be relied upon for its accuracy. We have taken out many references to wills referring to Bradford Parish, preserving the ancient form of spelling:- Wills Proved in 1636-7 Mary, widow of Thos. Bawme, Allerton William Clayton, Allerton Richard Cockroft, Allerton John Ellis, Brownroyd, Horton Thomas Fletcher, Horton Brian Fox, Wibsey John Gleydill, Great Horton John Michell, Manningham John Sowdon, Manningham Richard Steade, Bradforde, clothier Henry Walker, Burnett Field in Bolinge, clothier Michael Watson, Allerton, Clothier Joyce Yates, Bradford, widow. Proved in 1637-8 Michael Bearstow, Bradford John Fearnley, Kirkgate in Bradford Richard Hailey, Great Horton John Judson, Horton Isabel Lister, Manningham, widow Abraham Pearson, Thornton Peter Pearson, Bradford, yeoman Abraham Roodes, Heaton Roade, yeoman Thomas Sharpp, Little Horton, Bradforth Sistie, wid. Of Thos. Waddington, Bradforth Richard Waterhouse, Broad Oke in Bradford, blacksmith Elizabeth Whitley, Thornton Thos. Wilkinson, Kirkgate in Bradford, clothier. Proved in 1638-9 Robert Craven, Frizinghall, yeoman Margaret Fournes, Eccleshill, wid of George Fournes Nicholas Hardwick, Barkerend, Bradford, clothier William Hutchinson, Bradford, labourer Elizabeth Jowett, Clayton, widow Richard Mallinson, Bradford, yeoman Isabel Naylor, Bollinge, widow George Northroppe, Maningham John Pollard, North Beirle, yeoman Ellen Roydes, Allerton, widow Richard Sugden, Bolling, yeoman Robert Swaine, the elder, Horton, yeoman Jonas Wilkes, Bradford, carier Alice Wright, Manningham, Widow Proved in 1639-40 Robert Bawme, Horton, clothier Robert Bawme, Horton, yeoman Wlater Blackburne, Bowling William Booth the Elder, Lit. Horton John Hesledon, Horton, husbandman Abraham Rhodes, Maningham Richard Tempeste, Bolling, Kt. John Watmough, Preston Lane, late of Thornton Hall, Bradford Dale John Wilkinson, Willesten, clothier Proved in 1640-1 John Bower, Bollinge Walter Cordingley, Toffshay Thomas Field, Cockan in Clayton, yeoman William Grene, Barkerend, Bradford, clothier Edward Hopkinson, Bradford Ellen Hutchinson, Bradford, widow Susan Northcrop, Heaton, widow Thomas Swayne, the Elder, Little Horton John Thompson, Bolling Ricahrd Ward, Horton. Proved in 1641-2 Randal Boyle, Wibsey in North Byrle, yeom. William Drake, Thornton, clothier Annis Fournes, Northowram, widow of Richard Fournes, Allerton Jonas Gibson, Bradford John Jowett, Bollinge, yeoman Richard Nicholls, Bowling, smith Thos. Richardson, North Beirley, yeoman John Sharpe, the elder, Woodhouse, Bradford Abraham Sutcliffe, Allerton, yeoman Grace Walker, Brownroide, Horton, widow Susan Ward, Horton, widow Jeremie Waterhouse, Eccleshill, yeoman Proved 1642-3 John Jackson, Claton, carrier James Jowett, Bradford Christopher Parkinson, Bradford, yeoman Judith Roydes, Horton, widow Michael Saville, Clayton, yeoman Thomas Wilkinson, Roads Hall Park, clothier Proved 1643-4 John Mitchell, Thornton Richard Sowerbutts, Bowling, gentleman Proved 1644-5 Matthew Bourdall, North Breirley, clothier John Crabtree, Manningham Thomas Crofte, Bradford Robart Hollings, Lidgate in Clayton Matthew Hollins, Clayton John Howle, Bradford, linen draper Martha Okell, Bothestown, widow of John Okell, clerk, vicar of Bradford and Richard Batt, gent. Proved 1645-6 Margaret Bond als. Rendall, Bradford, spinster John Darnbrooke, Bradford Jonas Fearnley, Bradford, yeoman Robert Pearson, Bradford, yeoman Dame Elizabeth Tempest, Bolling, Widow Proved 1646-7 Abraham Barraclough, Nor. Bierley Francis Blagburne, Bradford John Blamire, North Bierley Samuel Firth, Bradford, yeoman Robert Garnite, Bradford Jonas Hall, Kippin in Thornton, yeoman John Hoyle, Bradford, yeoman Ann Jowett, Bradford, widow John Milner, Clayton, clothier John Nicholls, Horton, master of arts Abram Parkinson, Lit. Horton, tradesman Richard Pearson, Woodside, North Beirley, tanner Joseph Troughton, Bollinge William Webster, Barkerend, Bradford Edmund Widdop, Wibsey, clothier James Wilson, Bolling Proved in 1647-8 William Jowett, Little Horton John Midgley, Wilsden, yeoman Allan Proctor, Horton, yeoman Samuel son of Thos. Richardson, N.Beirley Proved 1648-9 John Booth, Horton Thomas Ibbotson, Bradford William Rawson, Bolling, yeoman Proved 1649-50 Ann, wid, of Nicholas Pollard, Bradfd Richard Rookes, North Beirley, yeoman Proved in 1650-1 John Ashbie, North Beirley, yeoman John Crabtree, Bradford Thomas Taylor, Bradford, clothier Proved in 1651-2 Francis Wood, Hunsworth, tanner [End of Transcription] Hope someone finds something useful in the list. If you do find a name in the list I can look in the actual book and find the exact date of the will - just drop me a line with the name and the year..... unfortunately the book isn't indexed by surname so I can't really do block searches for surnames unless you can provide a rough year between 1636 and 1651 that your antecedent died. Sorry about not capitalising the surnames but I typed the mail up in word first and didn't get around to making the surnames CAPS! :D I'm sure you'll all forgive me this once :D Bright Blessings Dawn (in Swindon where the rain is coming dahn like steer rods!)

Hi Listers, Came across this recently. I hope you enjoy reading it! A Family Historian's Lament (Author Unknown) I've been doing my Family History for nearly 30 years, diligently tracing my illustrious forbears, from Pigeon Lake to Peterborough, Penrith to Penzance, my merry band of ancestors has led me quite a dance. There's cooks from Kent and guards from Gwent and chimney sweeps from Chester. There's even one daft fisherman lived all his life in Leicester. There's no one rich and famous, no not even well-to-do, though a second cousin twice removed once played in goal for Crewe. I've haunted Record Offices from Gillingham to Jarrow, the little grey cells of my mind would humble Hercule Poirot. I've deciphered bad handwriting that would shame a 3 year old, and brought black sheep back into the fold. My bride of just three minutes I left standing in the church, as I nipped into the graveyard to do a spot of quick research. Eventually I found an Uncle, sixty years deceased, that was far more satisfying than a silly wedding feast. After three weeks of wedded bliss, my wife became despondent, she named the Pulic Record Office as co-respondent. I didn't even notice when she packed her bags and went, I was looking for my Great Grandad's will, who died in Stoke on Trent. But now my 30 year obsession is lying in the bin, last Tuesday week I heard some news that made me pack it in. 'Twas my darling mother, who was not long for this earth, casually informed me they adopted me at birth! Regards Michael from Lancashire

Hello Andrew: I am researching MARSDEN but that family is not one of mine. In 1881 mine were mostly in Tong and Bowling. I note that the mother, Mary, was a widow. Do you know her former husband's name or Mary's maiden name? I have some information on Bradford MARSDENs unconnected to mine. Regards, Gordon in Ottawa At 08:26 PM 18/05/2003 +0100, Andrew partridge wrote: >Hi, >Can anyone help , >I am new to the list, trying to trace my MARSDEN line. >My GREAT GRANDFATHER was HENRY WILLIAM RIPLEY MARSDEN 12 OCCUPATION- >WORSTED DOFFER in the 1881 census living at 17 ISAAC STREET ,MANNINGHAM >,BRADFORD, YORK, with his family , is anyone else researching this family >MANY THANKS >ANDY PARTRIDGE

"Martin Bentley" <treemaker@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote..... > For information of Roy and anyone else who may be interested, the > Office of National Statistics did a surname survey in 2002 which > involved 54 million individuals in England and Wales. Out of those > 5> million, just 246 were named Ormondroyd, making it the 18,639th > most popular name,,,not exactly "oodles", but there you go.< THE latest version of the UK-Info CD (2003) which supposedly contains 60 million names has just 30 Stockdills on it, ie one in two million of the population. Where does that put us? Mind you, there are plenty of names with only ONE example! Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) SoG Executive & Director of Projects, FFHS Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith

Wow I'm ranked - 4894th! Only 1448 of us! -----Original Message----- From: Martin Bentley [mailto:treemaker@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 19 May 2003 01:43 To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ BRAD] Was 1861 Lookup - Ormondroyd For information of Roy and anyone else who may be interested, the Office of National Statistics did a surname survey in 2002 which involved 54 million individuals in England and Wales. Out of those 54 million, just 246 were named Ormondroyd, making it the 18,639th most popular name,,,not exactly "oodles", but there you go. If anyone wants to check their surname in the survey click on the link below. Regards Martin Bentley (the 362nd most popular surname) http://www.taliesin-arlein.net/names/search.php ________________________________________________________ If you have BENTLEY from the West Riding of Yorkshire in your tree - check out my website at www.westridingbentley.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk ________________________________________________________ ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== Visit http://www.genuki.org.uk/ for initial information on all aspects of genealogy in the UK.........For the Bradford pages visit http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Bradford/index.html ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

For information of Roy and anyone else who may be interested, the Office of National Statistics did a surname survey in 2002 which involved 54 million individuals in England and Wales. Out of those 54 million, just 246 were named Ormondroyd, making it the 18,639th most popular name,,,not exactly "oodles", but there you go. If anyone wants to check their surname in the survey click on the link below. Regards Martin Bentley (the 362nd most popular surname) http://www.taliesin-arlein.net/names/search.php ________________________________________________________ If you have BENTLEY from the West Riding of Yorkshire in your tree - check out my website at www.westridingbentley.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk ________________________________________________________

Hi Knola If you can get to an LDS library, you can order Films 1648144 & 1648145 which are of an 'Alphabetical computerized grave index for Bradfords Undercliffe cemetery, 1854 - 1958'. The first is for consecrated graves & the second the very end of the consecrated graves & all the unconsecrated. I used the first a few weeks ago. It's easy to use (tho' it seems weird to film a computer printout). It's divided into 6 or 7 blocks of years & is alphabetic by surname within those blocks. Data consists of year of burial, a reference number, surname, fornames, 'condition' (infant, spinster, married woman, clogger's apprecentice - you'll do better with men here!) & area (BFD West, Bowling etc). No age unfortunately. Thhe LDS library reference says the original is in Bradford Central Library. Hope this is useful Rosemary Ackroyd ----- Original Message ----- From: "keith jeffery" <keithandknola@xtra.co.nz> To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 1:43 PM Subject: [ BRAD] Cemetery know-how. > Dear listers, > > I have a strong feeling that my great-grandmother was buried in the > Undercliffe cemetery in 1901. Name is Sally Greenwood, and she lived very > close by. >

Hi, Can anyone help , I am new to the list, trying to trace my MARSDEN line. My GREAT GRANDFATHER was HENRY WILLIAM RIPLEY MARSDEN 12 OCCUPATION- WORSTED DOFFER in the 1881 census living at 17 ISAAC STREET ,MANNINGHAM ,BRADFORD, YORK, with his family , is anyone else researching this family MANY THANKS ANDY PARTRIDGE _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

Hi List Can You Help?? Looking for Thomas SPENCER's Death, he was born abt May 31, 1819 in Heptonstall and his Wife Mary MITCHELL death, she was born to Joseph MITCHELL and Mary MADEHILL on May 8, 1820 in Clayton by Bradford They had a child William SPENCER born June 20, 1842 at Thornton, Bradford William died in Cleckheaton in 1904, Sept 25 I cannot confirm Thomas's Death and also Mary's death They were married in St Peter's Bradford on may 29, 1842 Were Thomas and Mary divorced or did Mary die and Thomas remarry?? I am having difficulty with the areas?? is it Halifax or Bradford and what parish Maybe someone can help on the parishes or some idea which areas I could start to research the SPENCER's of Heptonstall or Thorton Any Help would be greatly appreciated Regards Alan Spencer Melbourne, Australia

"John Oughtibridge" <johnny@cyberwc.net> wrote... > I have an interest in Ormondroyds. My grgr grandmother was an Ormondroyd. > Can you provide me with any names? Any help would be appreciated.> IF you can be specific about an area, perhaps, but I'm afraid I don't have the time to cut and paste 77 individuals entries from the phone CD into a file (and they cannot be done in one pass as a list). Sorry. Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) SoG Executive & Director of Projects, FFHS Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith

Roy Stockdill wrote: > There are 77 Ormondroyds on it, 59 of them in Yorkshire. By contrast, > there are only around a dozen Stockdills. So Ormondroyd is quite unusual and Stockdill is even more unusual. What a relief that is! Rich -- Born in Sheffield, but currently in Nottingham UK. Family names:- ASHFORTH, CAVE, CHAMPION, HODGES, HOPE, JACKSON, NICHOLSON, SIMPSON, SLEE, TETLEY, WALKER, WESTOVER, WOOLLEN, WILLIAMS. Home Website: http://freespace.virgin.net/richard.tetley/