Hello Listers, I have searched LDS Fiche as well as Film but am still unable to establish parents for the following: William MORTIMER, b.Cleckheaton/Birstall about 1777. Married - Hannah MILLER of Gomersall on 24 August 1797. Unfortunately, only Bishops Transcripts are available at FamilySearch and they don't give any additional information in this case. Is there anyone who could access actual Parish Records for this period and send me details of witnesses and parents, please? As I am unsure where these records are kept, I am posting the same letter to the Leeds List as well. Kind regards, Joan Powell (née MORTIMER) Researching from Australia.

Thanks for the note Sharon. Unfortunately it is more than just the date: it is his occupation, his place of birth given on the census, and the fact that I cannot find his children's births anywhere. It is looking likely that the marriage of Thomas BREARE and Martha ROBINSON in Addingham, at just the right time, was a red herring which has taken me in the wrong direction. Thomas and Martha BREAR may well have originated in Manningham after all, as the registers for St Lukes Church in Manningham appear to be available only in Bradford Archives, so somehow I need to get a look at them. Thank you for your interest Regards Margaret Switzerland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Richardson" <sharich@bigpond.net.au> To: "Margaret Elliott" <meelliott@btinternet.com> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 11:02 PM Subject: RE: [ BRAD] BREAR > Margaret, > Is his birth date on the death certificate? > Remember that the census was taken at the end of March in 1851, so if his > birthday was in April or May he would have shown as 1 year younger, > Don't know if that helps, but if he was born in May, the census was taken in > March and he died in June that would account for a two year diference. > All the best > Sharon > Australia > > -----Original Message----- > From: Margaret Elliott [mailto:meelliott@btinternet.com] > Sent: Sunday, 29 June 2003 1:44 AM > To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ BRAD] BREAR > > > I'm still struggling vainly with my Thomas and Martha BREAR(E) of > Manningham, but despite a lot of information from a lady with a > transcription of the Addingham Parish register up to 1812, I am still unable > to be certain whether or not they are the couple that married in Addingham > in 1809. 'My' Thomas BREAR died in Manningham in 1857. His age is given > as 69 on his death certificate, but as he was only 60 on the 1851 census, > there may have been some doubt. Martha was certainly a few years older. > The census said that they were all born in Manningham > > Is anyone with access to later Addingham records able to tell me if the > Thomas BREARE born there in 1784 died there? At least that way I can > "eliminate him from my enquiries". > > Alternatively can someone explain why I am able to find neither the birth of > this Thomas BREAR, nor his marriage to Martha, nor the birth of any of his > children (Mary, Ann, David and William) except a daughter Sarah, who was > baptised in Bradford Parish Church in 1811? Which registers should I be > searching for Manningham? > > Help please! > Margaret > Switzerland > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > Please NO VIRUS warnings or OFF TOPIC messages on this List. Any warnings > regarding a virus please send them to the list admin who will decide if the > warning should be posted. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I'm still struggling vainly with my Thomas and Martha BREAR(E) of Manningham, but despite a lot of information from a lady with a transcription of the Addingham Parish register up to 1812, I am still unable to be certain whether or not they are the couple that married in Addingham in 1809. 'My' Thomas BREAR died in Manningham in 1857. His age is given as 69 on his death certificate, but as he was only 60 on the 1851 census, there may have been some doubt. Martha was certainly a few years older. The census said that they were all born in Manningham Is anyone with access to later Addingham records able to tell me if the Thomas BREARE born there in 1784 died there? At least that way I can "eliminate him from my enquiries". Alternatively can someone explain why I am able to find neither the birth of this Thomas BREAR, nor his marriage to Martha, nor the birth of any of his children (Mary, Ann, David and William) except a daughter Sarah, who was baptised in Bradford Parish Church in 1811? Which registers should I be searching for Manningham? Help please! Margaret Switzerland

Warmest Wishes Jan in Bronte Country List admin ENG-YKS-Bradford. List admin Clewer surname OPC- Keighley-one-place-study. AVG updated daily ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Parkinson" <philipparkinson@ukonline.co.uk> To: <WEST-RIDING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 1:29 PM Subject: [WRY] RAG: STARKEY > Dear Listers, > > I have a sampler which may be of interest if anyone has the STARKEY family in their tree. > > The details on the sampler are very clear. If any one is interested please contact me off list. To spread this as wide as possible, if you are on any other email lists could you please forward it on. > > Philip Parkinson > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > Sampler > > MARIA STARKEY was born 35 minutes past 11 in the night March 20th 1781 > > RICHARD STARKEY was born 19 minutes past 10 at night March the 19th 1782 > > ROBERT STARKEY was born 20 minutes past 11 in the night October 28th 1783 > > SARAH STARKEY was born 55 minutes past 5 in the morning November 24th 1785 > > JULIA STARKEY was born 20 minutes past 10 in the night September the 30th 1787 > > > > THOMAS STARKEY was born 15 minutes past 5 at night February the 11th 1794 > > ANN STARKEY was born 30 minutes past 3 in the afternoon February 16th 1795 > > ELIZABETH STARKEY was born 15 minutes past 1 in the day January the 10th 1798 > > JOHN STARKEY was born 20 minutes past 1 in the day December the 21st 1800 > > Julia Starkeys work agd 11 years > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > > This message has been checked for all email viruses by Norton Antivirus 2002. >

Hi, Having seen postings for the name BREARE I would like to add my very small contribution. I believe that Fanny BROGDEN born in Bradford in 1882 married John BREARE. This is not confirmed, as I arrived at this conclusion as a John and Fanny BREARE were the witnesses at the wedding of Talbot BROGDEN and Emily HUDSON, and one of Talbot's sisters was Fanny. Anyone have John and Fanny in their tree who can confirm this? Thanks Sharon Australia

G'day Everyone, Looking for any conections to these persons below. Marriage : Mar QRT 1884 CROWTHER Annie Bradford Yorks 9b 213 MITCHELL Harry Bradford,Y. 9b 213 Harry Mitchell b 1858/59 son of Joseph Mitchell and Phoebe (nee Sutcliffe) The lived at Duchy House, Queens Rd, Harrogate. Children of Harry and Annie Mitchell are Gladys F Mitchell b. 1883/4 Marjorie F Mitchell b. 1886/7 Leonard Mitchell b 1892/3 I believe Duchy House is now a private hospital (Nuffield) Kind Regards Lori Mitchell

G'day Everyone, I have not written on this list before and would like to see if there is anyone out there who may have connections to this family.. Marriage : Jun QRT 1879 FOSTER William Bradford,Y. 9b 1 MITCHELL Clara Bradford Y 9b 1 She was the daughter of Joseph Mitchell 1831 - 1877 and Phoebe Mitchell Children of this couple are Marion Foster born 1880 William Garnet Foster born 1882 abt Mabel Foster born 1883 abt Phoebe Mitchell Foster born about 1888 They lived at Whiteshaw House, Denholme West Yorkshire Kind regards Lori Mitchell

Lori, I am sure there must be a connection with us. But I have only recently found the names Foster and Mitchell on my tree. My family, Earnshaw, came from Denholme. Two of my ancestors married into the Foster name and the son of one of them (Joseph Foster Earnshaw) married Emma Mitchell in 1879. Emma's address was Edge Bottom in Denholme, and she was born in Langfields. I know there is a large number of Foster's in the area and presumably an equal number of Mitchell's Over time, I want to expand my knowledge of this part of the family, as I don't understand why Joseph Foster Earnshaw moved from Denholme to Luddenden about the same time as my ggg grandfather did (he was JFE's great uncle) have a look at http://jearnshaw.me.uk and see if there is a name you can fit into your tree. Regards Jack Earnshaw please respond to jack@jearnshaw.me.uk <mailto:jack@jearnshaw.me.uk> -----Original Message----- From: Mike & Lori Mitchell [mailto:trimel1@bigpond.net.au] Sent: 26 June 2003 22:00 To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ BRAD] Any connections.. G'day Everyone, I have not written on this list before and would like to see if there is anyone out there who may have connections to this family.. Marriage : Jun QRT 1879 FOSTER William Bradford,Y. 9b 1 MITCHELL Clara Bradford Y 9b 1 She was the daughter of Joseph Mitchell 1831 - 1877 and Phoebe Mitchell Children of this couple are Marion Foster born 1880 William Garnet Foster born 1882 abt Mabel Foster born 1883 abt Phoebe Mitchell Foster born about 1888 They lived at Whiteshaw House, Denholme West Yorkshire Kind regards Lori Mitchell ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== The Mailing List Archives are at:- http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ENG-YKS-BRADFORD http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ENG-YKS-BRADFORD ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Last week I posted a question about the Farrar's and whether they were related to Farrer. In it I said I had ordered certificates to try to patch together some Earnshaw names. I was trying to find whether the person christened and buried as William John Earnshaw was the person who was married etc as John Earnshaw (as the wife's first names were the same). Yes they were the same person as address, father etc fitted exactly. But the reason I was trying this search was to try to find where a Joseph Foster Earnshaw (although called John Foster on 1881 census) may have fitted in. I guessed that the Foster middle name meant his mother was originally Foster and there was a marriage of John Earnshaw to Mary Ann Foster. When I looked at the birth certificate, initially my heart sank as his father was Benjamin Earnshaw and mother was Martha (nee Foster). Then it dawned on me - John Earnshaw had a brother Benjamin and he married a Martha something. So I had got it, almost, right. Joseph Foster Earnshaw was a family member - but two brothers had married two Foster girls - I guess they might have been sisters. So from one guess, but keeping a slightly open mind, I managed to fit together a large branch rather than just another twig on the tree. But I wish I could get into their minds and not just see bits of paper. Why did half the family move from Denholme to Wilsden - and then come back again a few years later? Anyway, quite a leap forward, but I wish I lived a bit nearer so I could follow up more searches rather than just save them up for another "holiday" in Yorkshire. Jack Earnshaw "ex pat" from the Bronte country

Tim I am still desperately trying to sort out my Manningham BREARS, without too much success. I'm pretty sure now that my Thomas and Martha Brear originated in Bradford, not Addingham,but I can find neither birth nor marriage for them. However, I have the following information which may (or may not) be of interest to you, supplied by two helpful ladies who have the Addingham records. A Samuel Breare, son of Joshua Breare, was born in Addingham on 10 Feb 1798. The reason I think you might be interested in him is that there are also lots of Robinsons in Addingham. Thomas Breare, who married Martha Robinson in 1809, and who I hoped might be 'mine' called his son Robinson too. Hope this helps Regards Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "derek deShelfe" <derekdeShelfe1@activemail.co.uk> To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [ BRAD] BREAR,1841 Census,Bradford. > [For Tim,but he wont mind you sharing the info.] > Hi Tim, > I had some unexpected time on my hands this afternoon,so I went to the > library for your look-up. > It was one of the easiest I've ever done > There were 11 Brear refs.for Manningham > and yours was the 2nd.I looked at > BRADFORD CENSUS 1841,Manningham District > Skinner Lane. > [All surnamed BREAR ; all born Yorkshire > Samuel,aged 40,Stuff weaver > Nanny,40 > Mary,20,Factory weaver > Hannah,19,Factory Stuff weaver > Elizabeth,15, do. > Joseph,10 > Maria,9 > Robinson ? 6 > Solomon,3 > Eliza,9 months > ======================================= > Tim,do you think Nanny's maiden name might have been ROBINSON ? I put a > query after the son Robinson,because I wasn't sure if it was Robinston or > Robinson ; other researchers felt sure it was the latter. > Cheers--------Derek. > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > E-mail etiquette pays dividends! - please CAPITALISE surnames, > other text CAPITALisation usually means you are shouting! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I believe I have thanked everyone personally, if I have missed anyone please accept my thanks for the help and considerable information received. Teresa Darwin Australia

Has anyone done any work on the family of Thomas and Martha BREAR who were in Manningham, at least from the beginning of the nineteenth century? I have a lot of information, but it just doesn't add up. For sure I know that Thomas was a weaver and died on 27 May 1857 while living on Whetley Lane. His age at death was given as 69. His wife Martha was a laundress, older than Thomas according to the 1851 census, and still alive in 1861. Certain children are Sarah, Mary, Ann, David and William, born between 1811 and 1826, but I have found none of their births. David married Maria HAIGH in Bradford in 1841: Sarah and Mary were unmarried laundresses. The IGI lists a marriage in Addingham between Thomas BREARE and Martha ROBINSON in 1809, but I have no proof that this is the correct one. Also I am very wary of this information as the IGI lists a possible birth for "Thomas or John" BREARE in Addingham on 1st Sept1784, baptised 17th September. Has anyone access to Addingham records who could check that out for me please? I've never come across an 'or' before! Any help or information would be greatly appreciated. Regards Margaret

Hi List Marvellous map on here of Bradford, also one of Leeds just been added Enjoy! http://www.yourmapsonline.org.uk/MapBradford.JPG Warmest Wishes Jan in Bronte Country List admin ENG-YKS-Bradford. List admin Clewer surname OPC- Keighley-one-place-study. AVG updated daily

My uncle was born in Boston Lincs 5. 8.31 the address on the birth certificate 15 days later when registered is 35 Pine St Bradford. I have found Pine St (running between Sun St and North St) Could SKS please tell me if number 35 Still exists? and would it be possible to get a picture if it does? Thanks in advance Teresa Darwin Australia

I am wondering if SKS has the Parish records for Heaton nr Bradford and would you please look up for me on the surname of PHILLIPS. Parents are Matthew PHILLIPS and Mercy FOX 1.Sarah ( AKA Sally Fox) Christening 20th May 1814 in Bradford Eng. DIED in 1893 2.Judith Christening 8th June 1815 Bradford Eng, died 1845 3. Jonathon Christening 17th August 1817, Bradford Eng . died 1875. 4. Caroline Christening 18th Feb 1821 Bradford Eng 5.Thomas born 18th April 1819 ( My line ) in Australia 6.Matthew , born 17th October.1824 Bradford Eng. DIED 1899 7. Samuel Christening 25th June 1826 Bradford Eng - no other details on the line 8. Joseph Christening 5th November 1828 Bradford Eng. no other details on the line 9. James fox Christening 14th October 1832 Bradford Eng. no other details on the line . And have been told they were born in Heaton . Hope to hear from anyone again Ann in Australia

"DA & TR SHEAN" <sheany@austarnet.com.au> wrote..... > New to this list but utilising several others - seems my grandparents had a very itinerant lifestyle and I am trying to piece together some of their moves. > > I have received an Aunts birth certificate (1939) place of birth > > 217 Horton Lane U.D registered Little Horton > > Can anyone tell me if 217 Horton Lane still exists and are there any pictures of the area available please?> THE address rang huge bells with me - it appears on MY birth certificate, too! I was born there the year after your aunt. It is actually St Luke's Hospital, Horton Lane, where half the population of Bradford was born. Of course it is still there. I recently returned to St Luke's to visit an elderly cousin who was in there for a few weeks - the first time I'd been back since my emergence into the world. Pictures wouldn't mean much to you, though, since it looks just like a million other hospitals. Best wishes Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) SoG Executive & Director of Projects, FFHS Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith

Hello, Managed to get hold of my Mum's cousin Margaret RAYNOR nee KELSEY. she remembers as a child in the 1940's visiting a Haberdashery/dressmakers store in Bradford which was run by either her Aunt Louie BROGDEN or her Grandmother Emily BROGDEN nee HUDSON (yes my elusive Emily). Apparently it was a Haberdashers in front and dressmakers in the rear, and there was a little house beside it where either Emily or Louie or both lived. Anyone by chance remember this store or the lady/ies who ran it? Many thanks Sharon Australia

Hi, New to this list but utilising several others - seems my grandparents had a very itinerant lifestyle and I am trying to piece together some of their moves. I have received an Aunts birth certificate (1939) place of birth 217 Horton Lane U.D registered Little Horton Can anyone tell me if 217 Horton Lane still exists and are there any pictures of the area available please? TIA

Sorry I gave a wrong date for the marriage of Ada BROGDEN and Robert Kelsey on my first posting, it should be 1935. Thanks Sharon OZ

Hi list, Anyone researching KELSEY or BROGDEN from Bradford? I have Ada BROGDEN marring Robert KELSEY around 1835, they had children Dennis born 1936 Robert (Bobby) born abt 1937 Margaret Born 1939 married David RAYNOR in the early 1960's and migrated to Australia around 1970. Graham Allan Also looking for Louie and Jean Brogden, Louie was put into foster care as a baby around 1918-20 and Jean was born some time after that. Their mother was Emily BROGDEN nee HUDSON, she had left her husband before Jean was born however she gave the child the name BROGDEN. Thanks Sharon Australia