Warmest Wishes Jan in Bronte Country List admin ENG-YKS-Bradford. List admin Clewer surname OPC- Keighley-one-place-study. AVG updated daily ----- Original Message ----- From: <info@1837online.com> To: <janperkins@blueyonder.co.uk> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 12:48 PM Subject: www.1837online.com - New price plan and August offer! New price plan In response to great demand from our customers, we hope you will be pleased to hear that from today, 5th August 2003, www.1837online.com has added a new price plan of £25 GBP for 300 units (equivalent of 8.5 pence per page) lasting 120 days - please see the "Buy Units" section of our site. August offer During August 2003 only, any customer who buys the new £25 price plan will receive an additional 20 units free. Added to the additional 10% of units we are currently offering, this makes a total of 52 extra units (equivalent to over £5 worth of units) free. We have received many suggestions from you and are currently examining these with a view to making some changes to the site. Please do keep writing to us with suggestions at info@1837online.com and, of course, please feel free to e-mail us at the same address or to telephone us, with any queries that you may have. Kind regards, Colin Miller Head of Operations - Family Research Link

Whilst things are a little quiet will post this again....................if anyone is on the Lake District list or the Sussex List.......................please feel free to pass this message on..................would love to re-unite them Hi List I have just bought some photographs, not sure where they belong really, BUT if any of you come across a Rev. Douglas EDWARDS, Dr TAYLOR, Miss BECK, Mr HORNS, taken near Bera Tarn...these must belong to some-one. Mention of the HOWARD family including Marjorie HOWARD, H.J. HOWARD & Ruby and I think Rosemary CANTLEY age 4, John CANTLEY age 7. They are really lovely, in black and white, but so much family history in them, including Kim the dog. Some taken at Felpham (which I believe is in Sussex) and more taken at Troutbeck, and Thirlmere, in the Lake District. I know this is a long shot, but if anyone knows any of these names, give me a shout..........could be local famies, but could be much further afield. Warmest Wishes Jan in Bronte Country List admin ENG-YKS-Bradford. List admin Clewer surname OPC- Keighley-one-place-study. AVG updated daily

Dear List, Is anyone researching JOSEPH SAWDEN who was born in Hull in 1801, if so I would like to hear from you. Because I am researching the same people, he is a member of my husband's family. Diane --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 8/4/03

I am new to the list and have an interest in the following names: John PATCHETT born 1811 in Bradford(his name appears as PADGETT in the 1881 census) Charlotte born 1812 in Nottingham, wife of John. Sarah PATCHETT daughter of John and Charlotte who married Edward KING. Albert KING born 1863 in Bradford, sub-district of Idle. Would like to hear from anyone who information on the above. Helen Anderson

maureen <maureenf@connexus.net.au> wrote..... > I am coming to the UK next month and want to look up Guisley/Horsforth > records. Could anyone please tell me if I would find these in the Bradford > Library.> DEPENDS what you want, but both Bradford Local Studies Library (in the reference library at Bradford Central Library) and Leeds Central Library are superb resources. You would probably be better off at Leeds for Horsforth. Try and visit them both if you have the time - Leeds and Bradford are only about 10 miles apart and there are fast road, rail and bus links between the two cities. However, the parish registers of both Guiseley and Horsforth, if that is what you mean, are at the West Yorkshire Archives Service at Sheepscar, Leeds (not the Central Library). Horsforth was a chapelry of Guiseley. Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) SoG Executive & Director of Projects, FFHS Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith

"Diane Sowden" <diane@sowden8945.freeserve.co.uk> wrote..... > Does anyone on this list know the url for subscribing the the Suffolk mailing list please, I can't seem to be able to find it anywhere?> GO to the main Rootsweb site, www.rootsweb.com, and click on Mailing Lists. Scroll down to "International " and then click on ENGLAND. You will see all the mailing lists there for the whole of the UK. Click on Suffolk and you will find all the details for subscribing, browsing the archives etc. Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) SoG Executive & Director of Projects, FFHS Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith

Hi Listers, I am coming to the UK next month and want to look up Guisley/Horsforth records. Could anyone please tell me if I would find these in the Bradford Library. Thanks, Maureen in Australia

I am interested to make contact with THORNTON'S family that related to these lines. They apparently from the Tong area of Yorkshire Joseph Thornton married a Judith PHILLIPS and they married in 1826 in Bradford and they had the following Children Extracted from the 1841 Census William aged....15 Ann aged......13 Mary aged....9 John aged... 6 Jonathan aged....4 James aged....9 weeks 1891 Census - Jonathan married a Nancy? and they had 7 Children 1.Albert ,2.Ada, ,3. Thomas 4.Joseph, 5. Harriett Ann,6. James, 7.Serenna - no other details at the moment to find anything on the children - James, married a Emma ? and they had 3 children Elizabeth, Walter, Arthur , no other details on these children Hope to hear from anyone that is researching this line Ann in Australia

Dear List, Does anyone on this list know the url for subscribing the the Suffolk mailing list please, I can't seem to be able to find it anywhere? Thanking you in anticipation. Diane --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.505 / Virus Database: 302 - Release Date: 7/30/03

I have obtained a Will for my PHILLIPS family and have a bit of a dilemma here and was wondering if SKS can do a look up on the 1861-1871 Census and what I have is the following - : I am wondering if you have a James Phillips and I don't know is wife but his children were - James , Joseph , Thomas , Annie and Emily , and it didn't give me their address's We have a feeling it was in Bradford or Leeds but maybe wrong ..... well in 1897 Will, James is deceased so it does break it down a bit Hope to hear from anyone that can help me with this dilemma Ann in Australia

I am emailing to see if anyone might know something on this line of WOOD family and I know that John married a Caroline PHILLIPS in 1842. Extracted from 1841 Census Spring row Manningham Bradford Job Wood 45 Inn Keeper born Yorkshire married Mary Brown in 22.3.1817 - Bradford , Yorkshire , England children John Wood born 1821 and he was a Wool Sorter born Yorkshire Hannah Wood born 1826 Yorkshire William Wood born 1826 Yorkshire Harrry Wood born 1828 Yorkshire Alfred Wood born 1830 Yorkshire Elizabeth Wood born 1833 Yorkshire Isaac Wood born 1791 Yorkshire Mary Wood born 1796 Yorkshire I would like to hear from anyone that is related or might know something on this line of WOOD family. I am not sure who Isaac is and where he belongs in this family - he maybe Job Brother.? Hope to hear from anyone that can assist me with this line Ann in Australia

HAPPY YORKSHIRE DAY!! Diane in California

"Jan Perkins" <janperkins@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote..... > Just seen this on the Listowners List, perhaps this is part of the proble= > ms > some of us have been experiencing. snip... > I thought this message passed on to me by my spouse would be of interest > to you, it was sent to the Manchester rootsweb :- > > I am a volunteer at a local LDS centre (not a church member). I know > extractions are still being carried out at my centre. Also, to keep up > with > what is happening regarding LDS info, the news page on the family search > site is useful, I copied this from it just now > > Updated International Genealogical Index > A new version of the International Genealogical Index is now available on > the FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service (FamilySearch Internet). This > new version contains the following enhancements: > > * More Names. More names have been added to the index. These names wer e > received since the last release in January 2000.> I BELIEVE it's worth pointing out rather firmly that, as I understand it, the additional names that have been added to the IGI are largely comprised of submitted information from LDS members and others. I don't know what other listers have found, but I've discovered that some names and events I KNOW were formerly there have disappeared! I've been told the LDS's ultimate intention is gradually to transfer the "proper" records - i.e. the officially extracted ones from parish registers and BTs etc - to CD, as on the Second Edition of the British Isles Vital Records Index, which contains over twice as many entries now as the first edition. Eventually, I gather, the IGI will consist largely of private patron submissions, which means of course that its value as a research tool is going to diminish fairly swiftly if this happens, since as a matter of course I never give any credence to any event submitted by another party without the original source being cited. No disrespect intended to LDS members, most of whom I am sure do their best to get it right, but the plain fact is there are some dreadful howlers in the IGI, as in those utterly worthless "birth about..." entries, which are arrived at by the simple guesswork process of deducting 25 years from a marriage date in the case of a male and 21 years in the case of a female. It really is time these were removed altogether from the IGI. Newcomers to genealogy may perhaps wonder how you tell which entries are official, extracted ones and which are member patron submissions? Easy - just look at the batch numbers. All batch numbers beginning with C, J or K indicate baptisms from a parish register or bishop's transcripts; M or E = marriages from a PR or BTs; P could contain either event from a printed register or typed transcript. All other batch numbers - those starting with an A or F or all-numerical ones - are private submissions that should be treated with the greatest caution. And, of course, any entry with the dreaded appendage "Relative" should be ignored totally! Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) SoG Executive & Director of Projects, FFHS Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith

Just seen this on the Listowners List, perhaps this is part of the proble= ms some of us have been experiencing. Hello All, I thought this message passed on to me by my spouse would be of interest to you, it was sent to the Manchester rootsweb :- I am a volunteer at a local LDS centre (not a church member). I know extractions are still being carried out at my centre. Also, to keep up with what is happening regarding LDS info, the news page on the family search site is useful, I copied this from it just now Updated International Genealogical Index A new version of the International Genealogical Index is now available on the FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service (FamilySearch Internet). This new version contains the following enhancements: * More Names. More names have been added to the index. These names wer= e received since the last release in January 2000. * Regular updates. The index will be updated as new information is received. Note: There are no current plans to update the International Genealogical Index on compact disc. * Individuals linked into families. Some individuals are linked into families and can be displayed on family groups and pedigree charts. The number of linked individuals is relatively small but is expected to grow significantly in the future. You can also download family group records and pedigree charts. * Additional event information. All events that were in original user submissions are now displayed and can be used as search criteria. * Improved searching. You can now search the index by given name, surname and state, and more types of events, even across regions. The processes used to find individuals in spite of spelling and other differences in the nam= e have also been improved. * Information to describe the source. When you display an individual=B9= s records, you will see messages that describe the source of the information. Hope this is of some help to some people Cheers, Lesley in Oz -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - Jan in Bronte Country Warmest Wishes Jan in Bronte Country List admin ENG-YKS-Bradford. List admin Clewer surname OPC- Keighley-one-place-study. AVG updated daily

Just seen this on the Listowners List, perhaps this is part of the problems some of us have been experiencing. Hello All, I thought this message passed on to me by my spouse would be of interest to you, it was sent to the Manchester rootsweb :- I am a volunteer at a local LDS centre (not a church member). I know extractions are still being carried out at my centre. Also, to keep up with what is happening regarding LDS info, the news page on the family search site is useful, I copied this from it just now Updated International Genealogical Index A new version of the International Genealogical Index is now available on the FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service (FamilySearch Internet). This new version contains the following enhancements: * More Names. More names have been added to the index. These names were received since the last release in January 2000. * Regular updates. The index will be updated as new information is received. Note: There are no current plans to update the International Genealogical Index on compact disc. * Individuals linked into families. Some individuals are linked into families and can be displayed on family groups and pedigree charts. The number of linked individuals is relatively small but is expected to grow significantly in the future. You can also download family group records and pedigree charts. * Additional event information. All events that were in original user submissions are now displayed and can be used as search criteria. * Improved searching. You can now search the index by given name, surname and state, and more types of events, even across regions. The processes used to find individuals in spite of spelling and other differences in the name have also been improved. * Information to describe the source. When you display an individual¹s records, you will see messages that describe the source of the information. Hope this is of some help to some people Cheers, Lesley in Oz -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jan in Bronte Country

"Cindy Dooley" <cinsings@hotmail.com> wrote..... > Roy, > How was the family reunion? Did you meet any new rellies? I love to > hear about families, even if they aren't mine! > Nice to have you back, your information is always appreciated. > Cindy Brewer Dooley, in Colorado> THANKS for asking, Cindy, it was splendid! There were about 60 of us altogether, mostly from the US (Pennsylvania, Virginia, Kentucky, Georgia, one of the Carolinas - forget which - Florida, Connecticut and Colorado), plus two new Canadian cousins we hadn't met before, with their spouses, from Edmonton, Alberta, and seven of us from the UK, myself, wife and younger son from Hertfordshire, and my cousin Garry Stockdill, wife and two sons from Bradford. We had four Stockdills from Boulder, Colorado, who are not actually related to me, at least as far as I've been able to discover. They stem from the Irish Stockdales/dills. We also had some Stockdills from PA who I have been in touch with for a few years, but despite having traced their ancestry back to Leeds in the 19th C. I have yet to establish a connection with. However, we regard them all as honorary family. We held the reunion - which is named for James Henry Ambler (1855-1923) from Leeds and Fanny Jane Stockdill (1862-1946), a cousin of my grandfather, who married in London in 1885 and migrated to America in 1906/7, founding the US family - at a very nice country resort in rural Pennsylvania. It's called the Allenberry Inn Resort & Playhouse (it has a 400-seat theatre in which we saw a professional production of the musical "Annie") at Boiling Springs PA (near the town of Carlisle in Cumberland County) over a couple of days. I can thoroughly recommend the resort for a reunion or similar event, as it has comfortable lodges, pool, tennis courts, trout fishing and many function rooms, plus the theatre as mentioned. Prior to the reunion we spent a few days in Philadelphia, which we hadn't been to before, It's a very nice city (nowhere near as dreary as W. C. Fields always depicted it!) but I am bound to say that I found it supremely incongruous queueing to see icons of freedom such as Independence Hall, where the Declaration of Independence was signed in 1776, and the famous Liberty Bell, and being subjected to airport-style security, X-ray and body searches etc and being hassled and shouted at by security guards who are not always the most sensitive people in the world. Freedom? What is it these days? I was also mildly surprised at having to produce a passport just to purchase rail tickets for a simple 100-mile trip from Philadelphia to Harrisburg by Amtrak. Perhaps they thought I was going to hijack the train! I spoke to several Americans who agreed that official paranoia is now rampant since 9/11. Understandable, perhaps, but a sad comment on the state of the world, all the same. However, it was only a very minor blip. After the reunion, we were transported by some of our US cousins down to Washington, stopping off en route to see the Gettysburg battlefield, which I found overwhelming. I've never seen so many memorials (there are over 1,300) and the actual battle site is considerably larger than I'd imagined. We took the car tour with a CD that guides you round. We had a few days in Washington, including a couple of nights in Alexandria VA - a gem of a place which we discovered on previous visits - and had a day excursion by train to Baltimore. Got home to land at Heathrow the day before all hell broke loose with the BA strike! Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) SoG Executive & Director of Projects, FFHS Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith

According to my audit log it failed on me (first failure) at 19:32 on Tuesday evening and I performed 5 retries, all failed. I got a "SEA 501 - unable to perform request" three times then an "Administration error - access denied. Please contact your system administrator" twice. To me that looks very like a "server being taken out of service abruptly" problem... eg. it died and fell off the network. So then by Wednesday they were probably running their "backup servers" intermittently whilst trying to get the main web-server back online. Hence the "now you see me, now you don't scenario". OK techy speak over. This was just to be in competition with Roy "Condescending" Stockdill :D Roy just had luck (and I suspect a cached page as his home page so that he could at least "see" the site) on his side and the rest of us didn't...... Like people servers have nervous breakdowns, overload and they die... it happens... but this is only the second time in about 5 years I can remember LDS having this problem so I think we can count ourselves VERY lucky. I wish the kit I worked on was that reliable. (And possibly some of the people too!) Has this subject been done to death yet? Bright Blessings Dawn -----Original Message----- From: Roy Stockdill [mailto:roy@stockdillfhs.org.uk] Sent: 31 July 2003 13:04 To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ BRAD] Does anyone know what's happened to the FamilySearch "Sherrie Wright" <curecf@prexar.com> wrote..... > My word Roy, you've been back on the list now, what.....2 days maybe and already you sound condescending.< WELL, maybe, but I've been using the site all week and found no problems at all. Perhaps I was just lucky in logging on at the right time every tim.! Because I use the site so often I've set it as my default home page in Internet Explorer (using Tools and Internet Options) and it just goes straight to familysearch every time I log on. I promise to let you know and hold my hands up the first time it doesn't work! Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) SoG Executive & Director of Projects, FFHS Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== Do not advertise commercial or non genealogical content links after or within your messages without first seeking permission from the Admin. Do not use the list as a port hole to advertise website urls. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

"Sherrie Wright" <curecf@prexar.com> wrote..... > My word Roy, you've been back on the list now, what.....2 days maybe and already you sound condescending.< WELL, maybe, but I've been using the site all week and found no problems at all. Perhaps I was just lucky in logging on at the right time every tim.! Because I use the site so often I've set it as my default home page in Internet Explorer (using Tools and Internet Options) and it just goes straight to familysearch every time I log on. I promise to let you know and hold my hands up the first time it doesn't work! Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) SoG Executive & Director of Projects, FFHS Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith

Mmm - my lack of technological expertise ;-) Pity I do this computer support as a job - only for the last 27 years though! :D Perhaps I need more practice..... but then again ony 18 more years until I retire. I do remember the last time they "upgraded" the service their servers were up and down like the proverbial for a couple of days so let's hope whatever it was has now been completed and everyone can return to being happy little hunters again. Speaking of which I'm still stuck with Robert FEATHER (b. Haworth circa 1808 lived in New Halifax, Thornton until the 1851 census then lost!) and his wife Betty HOLMES (b. Oxenhope c.1808). Can't work out their predecessors from the 5 christening options and would love to know what happened to their eldest son Abraham FEATHER (last known in the North Beirley Union Workhouse 1881). Any help in this matter would be greeted with a fainting fit and (when I regain conciousness) a large drink of your choice! Bright Blessings Dawn (in dreary Swindon but going to Lincoln for a weekend camping in the rain!) -----Original Message----- From: Sherrie Wright [mailto:curecf@prexar.com] Sent: 31 July 2003 02:09 To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ BRAD] Does anyone know what's happened to the FamilySearch My word Roy, you've been back on the list now, what.....2 days maybe and already you sound condescending. Didn't that vacation do your temperament any good? Numerous people on many lists were experiencing difficulties, perhaps you just happened to try it when the site was sorting itself out. No need for you to belabor OUR supposed inadequacy with technology. Might I say it was rather pleasant on the list while you were on vacation. Lighten up! Cheers ~ Sherrie ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== FLAMING will not be tolerated on this mailing list - Anyone receiving Hostile and/or Unsavoury mail should contact the List Owner and include the received mail ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Roy I just tried it again.................and I am getting a blank page.................no setting have been changed on my computer.................................so no idea what the problem is. Not been able to access it for a few days now. Not too worried though.............GOT my 1901 census on CD delivered today ..................WOWEE!!!!!!!!! Plenty to look at now, but really sorry that others are having these problems.................! Warmest Wishes Jan in Bronte Country List admin ENG-YKS-Bradford. List admin Clewer surname OPC- Keighley-one-place-study. AVG updated daily ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy@stockdillfhs.org.uk> To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:02 AM Subject: Re: [ BRAD] Does anyone know what's happened to the FamilySearch > I AM sorry folks, but I really do not understand what the problem is! > > I have www.familysearch.org set as the default on my computer > whenever I launch Internet Explorer and it just goes to the website > every time. Might I suggest that those of you who are not finding it > should look quite closely at your settings? > > Roy Stockdill (Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies) > SoG Executive & Director of Projects, FFHS > Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you, if he does not why humiliate him? - Canon Sydney Smith > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > Its expected that all subscribers to the list have a virus detection program installed. If you dont have one then please install one immediately. ***** You Know It Makes Sense ***** > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >