Hi list Have just received a birth certificate for Sarah Ann Gallagher born June 1894 at 16 Melville Court the address of the informant is 65 King Street have borrowed the 1901 census discs from a friend and would like to look up these 2 addresses and see if the family's were still living there but there is no street index for Bradford in the 1901 census so can SKS tell me in what district these 2 addresses fall under as it will save me going through the whole of the Bradford discs trying to find them Thank you in advance Judith Gorbutt

Hi Elizabeth, I went to the library this arvo.to look for your Leach family on the 1841 microfilm for Allerton. Problem ! There were a lot of them !! I hardly expected to find William [b.1765] as he would have been c.76.;and I didn't. Problem !! There were several Johns [now there's a novelty !!!],but not one about 25 years old.There were some older & some younger,some with their parents,some with wives/kids etc.If you can give me more info.re possible names of spouses [or is the plural spise ?], and offspring,then I'll give it another go sometime. Success !!!!! I hope.I found a William who was exactly the age you indicated-35 as foliows-------- Bradford Census 1841,Allerton. Moorhouse. [All surnamed LEACH,all born Yorkshire] William,aged 35,Woolcomber. Martha,aged 30 Stephen,aged 8. Betty,aged 6. Joshua,aged 4. Jane,aged 1, ======================================= I just had time to take a quick look at the same family on the 1851 census card index. On that William's wife was 'Margaret' [Maybe I mis-read the 1841 name Martha ; the film was 'grotty'to say the least] There were 2 more kidlets---Mary and Charles. If this IS your family,I'll re-check '41 to verify the name 'Martha/Margaret'; and make a proper transcript of the 1851 entry. Cheers-------Derek.

Hello - I have some families of Haynes who may be found in your area. They originated in Haworth, Yks. but moved away to find work. 1881 census - Calverley-cum-farsley George Haynes 50 Stationer Mary " 44 Emilia 18 Pupil teacher Lucilla 14 Charlotte 12 Hannah 10 Mary 5 Norman 1 Hipperholme-cum-Brighouse 1881 census George Haynes 30 Bill Poster Emily 32 Anne 11 months Keighley 1881 census Seth Haynes 28 Iron labourer Elizabeth 32 Sarah E 5 Annie 2 Alfred 26 brother to Seth Iron labourer Rastrick 1891 census Amos Haynes 38 Cloth weaver Betty 37 Emma 10 Joseph 8 Mary J 6 Lily 4 Ann 1 Any connections? Pleased to hear from you Aileen in Australia

G'day Listers - isn't that term just so appropriate for the Bradford list!! re BradfordInfirmary: I'll make a tentative claim to these staff - can't exactly see which twig they are off at the moment - but they're probably from our Nidderdale STONEY's somewhere! - thanks, Derek. Mary Stoney,aged,43,un.Servant,Cook,born Pateley Bridge. Hannah Stoney,aged 21,un.Servant Housemaid,born Pateley Bridge. Elizabeth Hooper (P.S. I'm sure there were grapevines among those 16 fruit trees!!)

Hi Stuart, John Dean was also in the Bradford area in 1851 as a child with his parents. The whole family was born in Shelf [not Sheffield],and so was I,a few years later ! Bradford Census 1851 Cleckheaton District. Old Popplewell,Scholes. [All surnamed DEAN,all born Shelf] William,head,mar.aged 37,Coalminer. Hannah,wife,aged 33 John,son,aged 8,Scholar. Lucy,dau.aged 6,Scholar. Alfred,son,aged 4. ======================================= They had moved by 1861--- Bradford Census 1861,Wyke District. [All surnamed DEAN,all born Shelf] William,head,mar.aged 47,Coal proprietor and miner. Hannah,wife,aged 43. John,son,aged 18,Scholar. Lucy,dau.aged 16,Bonnet and dress maker Alfred,son,aged 13,Worsted piece hooker [Their address this time was---- Chapel Fold,Wyke.] ======================================== The fact that John was still a scholar at 18 is most interesting.I wonder which Grammar School he attended ? A possible could have been Hipperholme [which I attended,but a few years later !!] I didn't have time to see if William and Hannah were in the Bradford area in 1841 so I'll do it next time. Cheers-------Derek.

In article <BAY2-F4J3kEPF3cMnA0000030cc@hotmail.com>, A Lee <aw2010@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi Listers, > At first sight this does not look like a Bradford problem, > but he has surfaced in my Yorkshire Family and I am trying to find out > how and why. If any one is at the PRO. could they look up JAMES HOWARD > who's marriage appears in the December records of 1858 marrying in > Depwade District of either Suffolk or Norfolk. I need to know who he > married. Hopefully it will to a Maria and I can then place him in the > tree. Many thanks. > Bye Anna Hello Anna The marriage is listed on FreeBMD (http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/) in Marriages Dec 1858 as HOWARD James Depwade 4b 675. If you click on the page number (675) you get a list of the names recorded on that page, which are : Howard James Lighton Caroline Todd John Clearly there is a name missing and not all of this quarter has been transcribed yet. The missing name could indeed be someone called Maria but nobody could possibly find her at the PRO (or at the Family Records Centre or anywhere else) without knowing a surname to look for. You could search the church marriage register from October to December 1858 if you knew which church they were married in, but presumably you don't know this. So I'm afraid that the only way you are likely to find who James HOWARD married is by paying for a marriage certificate. I hope you find these are the people you are looking for. Robin -- Robin Illingworth, Leeds (illingworthr@argonet.co.uk) -----------------------------------------------------

Hi Listers, At first sight this does not look like a Bradford problem, but he has surfaced in my Yorkshire Family and I am trying to find out how and why. If any one is at the PRO. could they look up JAMES HOWARD who's marriage appears in the December records of 1858 marrying in Depwade District of either Suffolk or Norfolk. I need to know who he married. Hopefully it will to a Maria and I can then place him in the tree. Many thanks. Bye Anna _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile

Hi Listers This was sent to the OPC Keighley...................thought I would see if any of you can connect with it. Warmest Wishes Jan in Bronte Country List admin ENG-YKS-Bradford. List admin Clewer surname OPC- Keighley-one-place-study. AVG updated daily ----- Original Message ----- From: "christine" <granny1945@btopenworld.com> To: <opc-yks-keighley@british-genealogy.com> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 11:45 PM Subject: [Opc-yks-keighley] Knight family > I would like to find someone researching the Knight family of the Holycroft > area of Keighley > I have an old Indenture document relating to a Reuben Knight. > Would like to share it with someone related to the family. > Christine > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/2003 > > _______________________________________________ > Opc-yks-keighley mailing list > Opc-yks-keighley@british-genealogy.com > http://www.british-genealogy.com/mailman/listinfo/opc-yks-keighley

Male Patients in the Infirmary on Census night. [See previous posting for comments on enumerator's writing,& almost unreadable ages] Malachi Lonegan,aged 4,born Bradford. Henry Lister/Lester ?,aged 7,Scholar, born Wakefield. Isaac Kitchen,aged 61,mar.Woolcomber, born Allerton. Joseph Pickles,aged 21,mar.Cotton Warp dresser,born Wilsden. Jeremiah Hutchinson,aged 29,mar. Woolcomber,born Baildon. William Moore,aged 21,un.Labourer,born Bingley. Mark Hanson,aged 11 ?,Scholar,born Bradford. John Topcliffe,aged 67,mar.Gentleman's servant,domestic,born Howden. James Lightfoot,aged 14,Worsted spinner,born Bolton [Yorkshire] John Bates,aged 19,un.Shoemaker,Horton. Michael Smith,aged 30,mar.Woolcomber, born Haworth. James Haigh,aged 36,mar.Mason,born Halton ? William Press ?? aged 16,un.Machine comber,born on the Atlantic,[British Subject] Alfred Margerison,aged 11/17 ? un. Worsted spinner,born Bradford. Richard McAvery/McAvoy ? aged 50 ? Woolcomber,born Ireland. Joseph Taylor,aged 12,Scholar,born Gibraltar [British Subject] Michael McNamara,aged 17,mar.Fire Tenter born Ireland. John Hudson,aged 43,mar.Delver-stone, born Halifax. David Wilson,aged 52 ? mar.Puddler-iron, born Wakefield. John Varley,aged 68 ? wid.Hand-loom weaver,born Pudsey. Joseph Hutchinson,aged 25 ? un. Woolcomber,born Bradford. ======================================== Actually the 2 young boys at the top of the list were in with the female patients. I have first hand knowledge of this system of putting young children in a women's ward.In 1934 I was in this infirmary,aged 5,in a women's ward.I was in to have a plaster cast put on my leg,and as plaster of Paris was slow drying in those days I was in overnight. A memory I do NOT cherish !!!!! I hope someone on this list is claimed as a relative by a reader. Cheers----Derek.

Female Patients in the Infirmary on Census Night. [The enumerator's writing left a lot to be desired ! Some names are either educated,or wild,guesses.The age column was virtually unreadable !!] Sarah Reid,aged 20,unmar.Power-loom weaver worsted,born Low Moor. Harriet Bailey,aged 44,wid.Manglewoman, born Low Moor. Hannah Rogers,aged 68,mar.Woolcomber's wife,born Farnley/Farsley ? Esther Wilkinson,aged 16,un.Domestic servant,born Mapplebeck ?[Mapplewick ?] Judith Holliday,aged 26,un.P-L Weaver worsted,born Baildon. Nancy Motley,aged 29 ? wid.Dress maker born Wilsden. Mary Leonard,aged 42,mar.P-L weaver worsted,born Ireland. Mary Burton,aged 11 ? un.Millhand worsted,born Abingdon,Berks. Eliza Law,aged 26,un.P-L Weaver worsted born Ireland. Margaret Hanlon,aged 16,un.Rover-worsted born Ireland. Winifred Brannan/Brannon aged 20,un. Woolcomber,born Ireland. Catherine Flann/Hann ? aged 15,un.P-L weaver worsted,born Ireland. Margaret Hayes,aged 20,un.P-L weaver worsted,born Plymouth. Mary Egan,aged 17,un.Worsted spinner, born Ireland. Jane Trotter,aged 17,un.Worsted spinner, born Bradford. ======================================= I'm hoping that somone on the above list is recognised and claimed as a long lost relative. The next posting will be the male patients. Cheers------Derek.

Bradford Infirmary [now the Royal Infirmary],was originally built at the junction of Westgate & Lumb Lane.It opened for Out Patients in 1843,and In Patients the following year.It's census debut was therefore 1851. Bradford Census 1851, Bradford Infirmary. [Staff on duty on census night] William Knowles,aged 27,unmar,Resident Surgeon,born Batley. Emma F.Rowley,aged 41,unm.Matron,born Wos'bro'dale. Joseph H.Greenwood,aged 27,un.Assistant House Surgeon,born Brighouse. Hannah Taylor,aged 59,wid.Nurse,born Honley. Mary Townend,aged 42,mar.Nurse,born Lincoln. Ann James,aged 50,un.Nurse,b.Canterbury. Ann Taylor,aged 30,un,Visitor,Dress maker,born Manchester. Thomas Pullan,aged 24,un.Servant,Porter, born Bradford. Mary Stoney,aged,43,un.Servant,Cook,born Pateley Bridge. Hannah Stoney,aged 21,un.Servant Housemaid,born Pateley Bridge. ======================================== As there was a very dark 'shadow' right down the ages column I've done the best I can at figuring them out.If any are wrong I'm sorry. My next posting will be the female patients who were'in residence'that night. Cheers--------Derek.

Hi Gwen, Glad my last posting was helpful.After I'd done my own research at the lib'ry this afternoon,I had time to find this for you------ Bradford Census 1841 Chellow Grange.Shipley [All surnamed RHODES,all born Yorkshire] Benjamin,aged 55,Farmer. Mary,aged 52 George,aged 20,Farmer. Jesse,aged 15. Job,aged 10. And right next door was------ William Rhodes,aged 25,Farmer. Mary Rhodes,aged 20. Susannah Rhodes,aged 1. Hannah Drake,aged 5. [All born Yorkshire] Bradford Census 1851. Chellow,Shipley. [All RHODES,except the last entry] Benjamin,head,mar.aged 66,Farmer 35 acres,born Bingley. Mary,wife,aged 66,born Bingley, Jesse,son,unmar.aged 27,born Allerton. Job,son,unmar.aged 25,born Allerton. Hannah DRAKE,grand dau.aged 15,born Allerton. ======================================= I'll try to find William & family in 1861 as soon as possible. Cheers-------Derek.

Thankyou so very much Derek, as I would not have found this info without your wonderful input. Truly appreciated. Kindest regards Gwen ----- Original Message ----- From: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 5:01 PM Subject: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-D Digest V03 #280

I've thanked Derek in private for the work he has done and I'd just like to say it publicly as well. I'm extremely grateful that he went to the trouble of finding my family in the 41, 51 and 61 censuses. He has saved me an awful lot of work. When I posted it was a small hope that a kind soul would find the time to lookup the family in the 1861 Bradford surname index. Derek exceeded my expectations by not only looking for them in the indexes but by searching out the family in the three census and then transcribing the details for me. Thanks you so much Derek. -- Stuart Morgan http://www.tase.co.uk/ List Admin: [MORGAN-UK] [GREENSHIELDS-UK]

G'day all, I would be appreciative if someone who has access to the 1841 Census for Allerton could look up the following for me, please: William LEACH b.c.1761 and his wife Martha William LEACH b. 1806 John LEACH b. 1816 If you look them up and don't find them, please also let me know that, as it will probably mean they were no longer in the land of the living!! Many thanks. Also - my querie re an epidemic in Allerton created some comment! That family actually buried 4 young daughters and 2 adult children and when the Mother died there was only one son alive at Allerton, plus the grandson she'd reared as her own from age 10 when his Mum died. Her other son, a wool sorter, had come to Aus. - and compared with Roy's account, by the time he had established a wool and hide business in rural N.S.W. we can appreciate how glad this couple, who had lived in a back-to-back inChapel Terrace, must have been to have a house block large enough to have a veritable market garden. Letters indicate they kept a cow and chooks (hens) and grew potatoes, tomatoes, cucumbers, lettuce, cauliflowers, cabbage, peas, broad beans, melons, pumpkins, asparagus, rhubarb, rock melons, 9 orange and lemon trees and 16 other fruit trees which the kids could pick from their beds on the open verandah! With these they fed a family of 10 (8+2), preserved for the winter in Agee jars, and by greasing the eggs, gave to friends and neighbours, sent cases of produce to extended family by train or with family visitors and then included dressed fowl. During W.W.I they even sent butter by train...! But this family in their early years in Australia had also buried two little ones. Elizabeth Hooper Vic. Aus.

Hi Stuart, Here's the rest of today's findings. Having found your OXLEY family in 1861,I had enough time to see if they were at the same address in 1871. 'Yes' and 'No'! They had moved 2 doors away !!!! Bradford Census 1871,Manningham. 1,Whetley Terrace. [All surnamed OXLEY] Joe,head,marr.aged 47,Steam saw sharpener,born Huddersfield. Hannah,wife,aged 50,born Westmoreland, Langdale. John Benjamin,son,aged 21,Stuff warehouseman,born Bradford. Mary,dau.aged 18,Weaver,born Bradford. William Henry,son,aged 17,Painter,born Bradford. Isaac,son,aged 15,Joiner,born Bradford. Frederick,son,aged 14,Bobbin taker off, born Bradford. ======================================== Thinking back to the 1861 census & the appearance of Margaret who wasn't on the 1851 census.I wonder if she was staying with relatives in 1851 ? Cheers-------Derek.

Hi Stuart, Had a spare hour this afternoon so went to find Phoebe in 1861. Using the street and surname indexes made it easy to locate the family,even though they had moved house. Bradford Census 1861,Manningham 3,Whetley Terrace. [All surnamed OXLEY] Joe,head,marr.aged 38,Sawyer,born Huddersfield. Hannah,wife,aged 42,born Lancashire, Hawkshead. Joseph,son,aged 18,Plumber and Glazier, born Hawkshead. Phebe,dau.aged 16,Worsted spinner,born Hawkshead. Margaret,dau.aged 15,Worsted spinner, born Leeds. Jonathan,son,aged 13,Worsted spinner, born Dewsbury. John B.son,aged 12,Scholar,b.Bradford. Hannah,dau.aged 10,Scholar,b.Bradford. Mary,dau.aged 9,Scholar,born Bradford. William,son,aged 8,Scholar,b.Bradford. Isaac,son,aged 6,Scholar,born Bradford. Frederick,son,aged 4,Scholar,b.Bradford ======================================== I think Joe's wife Hannah must have had an iron constitution to bear 10 children with very little time between each. Equally noteworthy is that none of the 10 died in infancy !!! Cheers------Derek. 'And there's more',as Frank Carson used to say.

Hi, I have just re-subscribed to this list hoping SKS will be able to help. Elias HARTLEY was my g.g.grandfather, born Knaresborough 1802, married in Leeds 1823 to Rhoda Swift. They lived in Knaresborough, he was a blacksmith and they had three children: Elizabeth, Thomas and William (my ggf). Rhoda died in 1840 and I can find no further trace of Elias. The 1841 and 1851 Census for Knaresborough show the children with their grandmother. I have combed the 1837 records and can only find listings of an Eli Hartley death i.e. June qtr 1852 Bradford Vol 9b page 72 March qtr 1853 Skipton (no vol or page) June qtr 1853 Keighley, Vol 9a page 143 and three possible marriages i.e. Ely Hartley Dec qtr Halifax 1842 Vol 22 page 140 Ellis Hartley, June qtr 1850 Knaresborough Vol 23 page 384 Ely Hartley, March qtr Stockton 1852 vol 10a page 71 I know he was dead by 1871 Please will someone tell me where I can look to check out these references. Where are the Census Records kept and also where would I find the Parish Records. I live in Cumbria but would be willing to make the trip if I thought I could solve this riddle. He is driving me nuts! Any help would be very much appreciated. Look forward to hearing from you. Ruth

Hi Gwen, I first looked for your Rhodes family on the 1851 census card index,to find out where they lived.They were at Chellow, Shipley. Bradford Census 1851 Chellow,Shipley. [All surnamed RHODES] William,head,marr.aged 36,Farmer of 22 acres,born Allerton. Mary,wife,aged 32,born Manningham. Susannah,dau.aged 11,born Heaton. George,son,aged 7,Scholar,born Heaton. Benjamin,son,aged 5,Scholar,born Heaton John,son,aged 3,born Heaton. Samuel,son,aged 1,born Heaton. ====================================== So I looked for them at the same address in 1861,but only got this------ Bradford Census 1861 Chellow,Shipley. [All surnamed RHODES] Benjamin,head,marr.aged 75,Farmer of 65 acres,born Bingley. Mary,wife,aged 75,Farmer's wife,born Bingley. Job,son,unmar.aged 32,Farm labourer, born Allerton. John,grand son,aged 13,Farm labourer, born Heaton. [I suspect that this old couple were the parents of your William ; and the grandson,John,was William's son.] ======================================= Sorry I didn't locate William in 1861. I'll try again sometime,using the surname index. Cheers--------Derek.

Hi Stuart, Yes your Oxley family WERE in Yorkshire in 1851---- Bradford Census,1851,Manningham Top of Green Lane,Manningham. [All surnamed Oxley ; spelling as per census entry ] Joe,head,marr.aged 27,Sawer,born Huddersfield. Hannah,wife,aged 30,Domestic duties, born Lankishire. Joseph,son,aged 8,born Westmoreland. Phebe,dau.aged 6,born Lankishire. Jonathan,son,aged 3,born Dewsbury. John B.son,aged 2,born Bradford. Hannah M.dau.aged 4 months,b.Bradford. ======================================== They certainly moved about a bit !! Cheers-------Derek.