Hello all i am attending the Ruby Wedding celebrations of my God parents next week and i would love to add some more to my tree to show them so if anyone is researching the following i would love to hear from you 1901 census Bradford Listerhills 69 Bower St Edward JONES 49yrs a general Carrier born Wales Martha JONES (Nee DINSDALE) 49yrs born Boroughbridge and their children George JONES 11yrs Lettitia JONES 10yrs Edward JONES 4 yrs Also i have the following names that were on the same page that i downloaded from the 1901 if you would like the details just give a shout HOLROYD ALDERSLEY HOLLIGAN NUDLOSS MUFF BELL PARKINSON DENTON SMITH LAYCOCK VARLEY Best wishes Sandra Researching JONES - Bradford ,Oswestry MATTHEWS - Bradford DINSDALE - Bradford ,Kirby Hill COOPER - Barnsley, Rotherham HARPER - Rotherham, Barnsley McGRATH - Barnsley GARAN - Barnsley OSKER /OSCAR/HOSKER- Durham DENNIS - Durham DAVIS - Durham McCRICKARD - Bishop Auckland NIXON - Hamersterly CORRIGAN - Durham THOMPSON - Kingston upon Hull >From: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-D-request@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com >To: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-D@rootsweb.com >Subject: ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-D Digest V03 #309 >Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 05:07:34 -0600 > ><< message2.txt >> ><< message4.txt >> ><< message6.txt >> _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool emoticons - download MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

G'day, Does anyone know if there has been a book or CD produced on the MI in Bowling Cemetery..? I would love to purchase a copy... Just thought may be one of FHS has produced one.. Kind Regards Lori Mitchell

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Subject: re; Clara ; pronounciation Hello everyone who answered my query. Many thanks indeed 10 replies at least. I should have guessed there is no clear answer. Seems to be just in favour of sounding like Claira, as some thought Clara (as in Star) a little more 'classy' Continental or American. Oh dear I really don't know and my book of names doesn't help.! Thanks for all the replies . I've got two anyway so perhaps I should call one each way! Thank you Valerie N Yorks

Hello Mal, Yes do please post all you have. David Binns, Tyneside ----- Original Message ----- From: Mal Pace <mal_pace@ihug.co.nz> To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 5:36 AM Subject: [ BRAD] M.I.'s for Akeroyd and Ogden at Denholme. > Hi, found a few more, these are from Denholme though. > > Margaret daughter of Joshua and Sarah Akeroyd aged 13 months of Denholme, died 5 August 1862. Also Joshua Akeroyd died 14 March 1876 aged 45 years. Also Sarah died 30 May 1878 (?) aged 44 years. Annie Humphries died 15 March 1923 aged 65 years. > > Michael Akeroyd died 5 June 1871 aged 30 years, Sarah wife of Michael died 26 July 1904 aged 59 years. > > Ishmael Ogden of Thornton died 27 May 1847 aged 45 years. Thomas, son of John and Amelia Ogden, died 14 May 1850 aged 8 months. Nancy wife of Ishmael died 22 December 1866 aged 68 years. > > Hope these are useful to someone. I have more, should I post them on the List too? Cheers, Mal. > --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 01/09/03

Hi Denise, If Maria & her brood was giving you a headache on the 1841 census,just see what 1851 turned up !!!!!!!!! Bradford Census 1851,North Bierley. [Ref.2304 ED 8 Sch.14] 254,New Works,Low Moor. [All surnamed HARGREAVES] Maria,head,widow,aged 52,born North Bierley. Joseph,son,unmar.aged 26,Laabourer,born Parish of Halifax. Esther Hanah,dau.unmar.aged 18,Spinner at Mill,born Parish of Halifax. Mary Ann,dau.unmar.aged 15,Spinner at Mill,born Parish of Halifax. Martin,son,aged 11,Coalminer's boy,born North Bierley. John,son,aged 9,Coalminer's boy,born North Bierley. ======================================== So Maria in her 'widowhood' had 2 sons ! I got the ref.from the 1851 census card index,then went back to the original source and looked at the microfilm. There were no problems with reading any part of the entry----the above is exactly as the enumerator wrote it down. It looks like you'll have to get Martin's marriage cert.to find his father's name [if known !!!!!!] Maria must have been a VERY MERRY WIDOW. Cheers--------Derek Barraclough.

Hi Valerie, I think it's likely to be a class thing. Clara (as in "star") would sound a bit more classy than the other way. Were your family trying to put on airs? The Earl of Harewood, for example, pronounced "Harwood" lives in Harewood House ("hare") in the village of Harewood ("hare"). Best wishes. Tim Pickard Ottawa Canada

Yes, it looks like she didn't miss her husband much!! Thanks VERY MUCH Derek, your help is VERY MUCH appreciated. Denise V derek deShelfe <derekdeShelfe1@activemail.co.uk> wrote: Hi Denise, If Maria & her brood was giving you a headache on the 1841 census,just see what 1851 turned up !!!!!!!!! Bradford Census 1851,North Bierley. [Ref.2304 ED 8 Sch.14] 254,New Works,Low Moor. [All surnamed HARGREAVES] Maria,head,widow,aged 52,born North Bierley. Joseph,son,unmar.aged 26,Laabourer,born Parish of Halifax. Esther Hanah,dau.unmar.aged 18,Spinner at Mill,born Parish of Halifax. Mary Ann,dau.unmar.aged 15,Spinner at Mill,born Parish of Halifax. Martin,son,aged 11,Coalminer's boy,born North Bierley. John,son,aged 9,Coalminer's boy,born North Bierley. ======================================== So Maria in her 'widowhood' had 2 sons ! I got the ref.from the 1851 census card index,then went back to the original source and looked at the microfilm. There were no problems with reading any part of the entry----the above is exactly as the enumerator wrote it down. It looks like you'll have to get Martin's marriage cert.to find his father's name [if known !!!!!!] Maria must have been a VERY MERRY WIDOW. Cheers--------Derek Barraclough. ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== E-mail etiquette pays dividends! - please CAPITALISE surnames, other text CAPITALisation usually means you are shouting! ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search

My Aunty Clara BROGDEN was born in Bradford in 1913 and still is Clara sounded AIR Perhaps it is which side of the road you came from?? Cheers Sharon Australia

Does anyone have access to the Yorkshire 1871 census or 1871 Bradford/Leeds census. I would greatly appreciate a look-up for the following if possible. Rose Ann Ferguson age 2 approx and a Robert Ferguson age unknown but older that Rose. It could be her brother or father. Thank you in anticipation, John

I think Clara [pronounced Claara] is more Continental European than British/Yorkshire.The composer Robert Schumann's wife was called Clara ; I have never heard her called 'Claira',always 'Claara'. Cheers-------Derek.

Hi, found a few more, these are from Denholme though. Margaret daughter of Joshua and Sarah Akeroyd aged 13 months of Denholme, died 5 August 1862. Also Joshua Akeroyd died 14 March 1876 aged 45 years. Also Sarah died 30 May 1878 (?) aged 44 years. Annie Humphries died 15 March 1923 aged 65 years. Michael Akeroyd died 5 June 1871 aged 30 years, Sarah wife of Michael died 26 July 1904 aged 59 years. Ishmael Ogden of Thornton died 27 May 1847 aged 45 years. Thomas, son of John and Amelia Ogden, died 14 May 1850 aged 8 months. Nancy wife of Ishmael died 22 December 1866 aged 68 years. Hope these are useful to someone. I have more, should I post them on the List too? Cheers, Mal.

Hi All, just found a notebook from a visit home ten years ago (been packed in a box and hasn't seen the light of day for seven years) in which I copied some M.I.'s at Haworth, as follows: John son of James & Phoebe Murgatroyd of Lane End. 29th December 1829, aged 22. Phoebe wife of James died 30 December 1847 aged 76. James died 20 August 1852, aged 76. Margaret wife of James Murgatroyd of Sutton died 12 April 1837, aged 26. Sarah daughter of Pickles and Sarah Murgatroyd of Lane End died 8 March 1841 aged 1 year. Sarah wife of Pickles died 7 February 1843 aged 25. Pickles died 13 November 1876 aged 62. Roger Murgatroyd of Ovenden died 10 June 1855 aged 37. (There were also two Redmonds buried in the same plot). Isaac son of James and Mary Jowett of Bridgehouse died 23 July 1798. Joseph son of James and Mary died 7 April 1808 aged either 5 or 8 (difficult to read), also John died 21 April 1812 (?) aged 1 year. Mary Jowett died 28 September 1814 aged 38 (?). Mary daughter died 2 April 1819 aged 18 years. James Jowett died 16.6. 18-9 (difficult to read). Hope that is useful to someone.

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For me and my wife, or should it be my wife and I, both agree (seperately) on Clara. Sorry as in star not air. We are both born and bred wet yorks Bradfordians. That's our opinions for what it's worth anyway. Regards Graham & Chris

Hi Valerie - definately 'clairah' pronunciation, 'clarrah' was more European I think. Cheers, Mal. ----- Original Message ----- From: "vgilbert" <vgilbert@supanet.com> To: <ENG-YKS-BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 4:32 AM Subject: [ BRAD] Clara .... pronounciation > Having almost mapped out the life of my elusive ancestor Clara Galloway I would like opinions in how the name was likely to have been pronounced . Clara was born 1861 and it seems to be a fairly common name. > I have been thinking Clara ,the ar rhyming with star, but have heard someone suggesting Clara with it rhyming with air. It is not important to the genealogy but what would have been more likely in West Yorks in 1860/70 ? > > Your thoughts on this please,Any grandmothers or Aunts called Clara ? > > Valerie N Yorks > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > E-mail etiquette pays dividends! - please CAPITALISE surnames, > other text CAPITALisation usually means you are shouting! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello I would like to make contact with anyone, especially descendants, who has a connection to Sam MORTIMER and his first wife Ada Lavinia (possibly WATMOUGH) who were married in Bradford, Yorkshire in 1872. Thank you and also many thanks to Janet and Richard who replied to my earlier posting. Magdalen in South Africa. mwmaggin@mweb.co.za

Hello, Many thanks Judith for the 1871 Census information. Absolutely spot on. Regards, Dennis Farmery

Hi Magdalen, It is not possible to be certain, because folk were often buried in a family plot, that was near to where they used to live, or buried in a cemetery associated with the church at which they worshipped. However, Ash Grove is very close to the general cemetery at Undercliffe, so that is where I'd start my search, if I were you. Another possibility is Scholemoor. This is the address and phone number for Undercliffe cemetery Undercliffe Cemetery, Undercliffe Lane, Bradford, BD3 0QD, Telephone (01274) 642276 The Undercliffe burial register indexes have been filmed. I'm sure I've looked at them in Bradford Library. Perhaps someone can say if the LDS have filmed them. Regards Richard Magdalen MGuinness wrote: > Hello > > Annie MORTIMER second wife of Sam MORTIMER died March Q 1897in Bradford aged 29. > They probably lived at 57 Ash Grove, Bradford. address given when they married in 1894. > Could anyone give me an idea of where Annie might be buried, and if there are burial records available > please? > -- Born in Sheffield, but currently in Nottingham UK. Family names:- ASHFORTH, CAVE, CHAMPION, HODGES, HOPE, JACKSON, NICHOLSON, SIMPSON, SLEE, TETLEY, WALKER, WESTOVER, WOOLLEN, WILLIAMS. Home Website: http://freespace.virgin.net/richard.tetley/

Hi Valerie, My 4 West Yorkshire grandparents were all born c.1870,and I'm 100% CERTAIN that all 4 would have pronounced Clara with the 'ar' to rhyme with 'air'.In fact as there was a Clara in the family, that's the only pronounciation I ever heard in family circles. Cheers--------Derek.