Hi again this appears to be your man with 3 different spellings Christine View Record Athra Robinson abt 1855 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Head Thornton in Bradford Yorkshire ************************* View Record Daniel Robinson abt 1880 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Son Thornton in Bradford Yorkshire View Record Ernest Robinson abt 1877 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Son Thornton in Bradford Yorkshire View Record Firth Robinson abt 1876 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Son Thornton in Bradford Yorkshire View Record Hannah Robinson abt 1854 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Wife Thornton in Bradford Yorkshire 1871 View Record Arther Robinson abt 1855 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Son Thornton Yorkshire ************************* View Record Clara Robinson abt 1861 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Daughter Thornton Yorkshire View Record Daniel Robinson abt 1825 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Head Thornton Yorkshire View Record Enoch Robinson abt 1853 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Son Thornton Yorkshire View Record Hannah Robinson abt 1831 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Wife Thornton Yorkshire View Record Joseph Robinson abt 1866 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Son Thornton Yorkshire View Record Martha Robinson abt 1870 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Daughter Thornton Yorkshire View Record Mary Robinson abt 1869 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Daughter Thornton Yorkshire View Record Ruth Ann Robinson abt 1857 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Daughter Thornton Yorkshire View Record Seth Robinson abt 1864 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Son Thornton Yorkshire 1861 View Record Alba Robinson abt 1855 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Son Thornton Yorkshire ***************************** View Record Clara Robinson abt 1861 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Daughter Thornton Yorkshire View Record Daniel Robinson abt 1825 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Head Thornton Yorkshire View Record Enock Robinson abt 1853 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Son Thornton Yorkshire View Record Hannah Robinson abt 1831 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Wife Thornton Yorkshire View Record Ruth Ann Robinson abt 1857 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Daughter Thornton Yorkshire >> >> > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/380 - Release Date: 30/06/2006 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/380 - Release Date: 30/06/2006

Ah thank you Judith - a suggestion perhaps. Another kind correspondent in private demonstrated to me that at least a few other Athra's exist in the BMD. Athra backwards is Arhta, but I get the point! I searched on both and found a couple or Arthas in 1871/81, but none mine. I just can't find my Athra in any census prior to 1881, and have tried every variant imaginable. I guess this suggests he may have taken the name in a whimsical way upon marriage or something. Just something about this sturdy sensible farming family makes me wonder why... Paul On Sun, 2 Jul 2006, Judith Kettlewell wrote: > Hi > If you look at ATHRA spelled backwards you get ARTHA. Not the correct > spelling but hey - many of the people couldn't read or write then let alone > spell. > > Perhaps they were just in whimsical mood and decided to make up a new name > like many of todays new parents. > > Doesn't get you any further I know but at least you have had one reply!!! > > Blessings > > Judith K > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "P S Mitchell" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 8:25 PM > Subject: [ BRAD] Unusual forenames: Athra, Firth, Squire > > >> Hope no-one minds if they've seen this mail before - for collectors >> of unusual forenames. I flung this mail at the YORKSGEN list but >> it's so far met with deafening silence. Might be because of sport >> and 4th July... >> >> Last night I stumbled on a seemingly odd cluster of forenames from my >> very straightforward ROBINSON clan around Bradford. A Daniel and Hannah >> Robinson seemingly christened a son ATHRA ROBINSON - transcribed on the >> IGI as Ethra, but very clearly written on multiple censuses as Athra, >> and clearly not a typo for Arthur. Athra's a plain old farmer in Shelf. >> >> After some googling, I can only come up with two possibilities for Athra >> as a name: one Iranian (unlikely!) and one from obscure Anglo-Saxon >> mythology. It also seems it may have been an obscure name/word in Welsh. >> >> Athra has a son called FIRTH ROBINSON. Not so unusual a surname, >> but still odd as a forename. >> >> I'm used now to the concept of a child (often a younger boy) >> being given his wife's maiden name as a forename - my own >> great-great-grandfather was called Shepherd ROBINSON, his mother >> born Alice SHEPHERD. But ATHRA doesn't seem to appear anywhere as a >> surname, and a very likely marriage for his parents (Daniel and Hannah >> Robinson) has his mother's maiden name as Jennings. Similarly with >> Firth Robinson - his mother appears to have been born Agnes Pollard. >> I've of course considered Athra as a variant or misspelling of Arthur, >> but it doesn't seem likely, or to have occurred elsewhere. >> >> The names were given to children in the period 1850-70, and seem >> unusual affectations for lower class rural families, surrounded as they >> are by families with the traditional Williams, Johns and biblically >> derived forenames like Isaacs and Abrahams. Any suggestions on >> derivations of these names particularly Athra welcome! >> >> Finally, Shepherd Robinson's sister Mary seems to have married a plain >> John Bland and lived on the same farm as Firth Robinson eventually >> lived on - and Mary and John christened one of their sons Squire >> (seen as a name from when a child). I can see that this is a more >> common forename seen elsewhere, and maybe specifically in Yorkshire, >> but would be interested in its derivation - a play/attempt by lower >> class families at gentrification via "esquire"? >> >> [My connection with the BLAND family? An odd addition to a ROBINSON >> gravestone from Old Dolphin Chapel, Clayton Heights as sent to me >> by Bradford Central Library from the Blackburn transcriptions - the >> graveyard's now just grass. Squire Bland is buried in the Robinson >> grave, and from census guesses, he's the half-brother of an Isaac >> Robinson, born illegitimately to Mary I think, Shepherd Robinson's >> sister before marriage to John Bland.] >> >> Paul >> >> >> ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== >> Bradford List covers the whole of the Bradford Postal Code >> area........which is Skipton and beyond, Tong and beyond, Cleckheaton and >> beyond, & Keighley & Beyond >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > E-mail etiquette pays dividends! - please CAPITALISE surnames, other text > CAPITALisation usually means you are shouting! > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Hi If you look at ATHRA spelled backwards you get ARTHA. Not the correct spelling but hey - many of the people couldn't read or write then let alone spell. Perhaps they were just in whimsical mood and decided to make up a new name like many of todays new parents. Doesn't get you any further I know but at least you have had one reply!!! Blessings Judith K ----- Original Message ----- From: "P S Mitchell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 8:25 PM Subject: [ BRAD] Unusual forenames: Athra, Firth, Squire > Hope no-one minds if they've seen this mail before - for collectors > of unusual forenames. I flung this mail at the YORKSGEN list but > it's so far met with deafening silence. Might be because of sport > and 4th July... > > Last night I stumbled on a seemingly odd cluster of forenames from my > very straightforward ROBINSON clan around Bradford. A Daniel and Hannah > Robinson seemingly christened a son ATHRA ROBINSON - transcribed on the > IGI as Ethra, but very clearly written on multiple censuses as Athra, > and clearly not a typo for Arthur. Athra's a plain old farmer in Shelf. > > After some googling, I can only come up with two possibilities for Athra > as a name: one Iranian (unlikely!) and one from obscure Anglo-Saxon > mythology. It also seems it may have been an obscure name/word in Welsh. > > Athra has a son called FIRTH ROBINSON. Not so unusual a surname, > but still odd as a forename. > > I'm used now to the concept of a child (often a younger boy) > being given his wife's maiden name as a forename - my own > great-great-grandfather was called Shepherd ROBINSON, his mother > born Alice SHEPHERD. But ATHRA doesn't seem to appear anywhere as a > surname, and a very likely marriage for his parents (Daniel and Hannah > Robinson) has his mother's maiden name as Jennings. Similarly with > Firth Robinson - his mother appears to have been born Agnes Pollard. > I've of course considered Athra as a variant or misspelling of Arthur, > but it doesn't seem likely, or to have occurred elsewhere. > > The names were given to children in the period 1850-70, and seem > unusual affectations for lower class rural families, surrounded as they > are by families with the traditional Williams, Johns and biblically > derived forenames like Isaacs and Abrahams. Any suggestions on > derivations of these names particularly Athra welcome! > > Finally, Shepherd Robinson's sister Mary seems to have married a plain > John Bland and lived on the same farm as Firth Robinson eventually > lived on - and Mary and John christened one of their sons Squire > (seen as a name from when a child). I can see that this is a more > common forename seen elsewhere, and maybe specifically in Yorkshire, > but would be interested in its derivation - a play/attempt by lower > class families at gentrification via "esquire"? > > [My connection with the BLAND family? An odd addition to a ROBINSON > gravestone from Old Dolphin Chapel, Clayton Heights as sent to me > by Bradford Central Library from the Blackburn transcriptions - the > graveyard's now just grass. Squire Bland is buried in the Robinson > grave, and from census guesses, he's the half-brother of an Isaac > Robinson, born illegitimately to Mary I think, Shepherd Robinson's > sister before marriage to John Bland.] > > Paul > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > Bradford List covers the whole of the Bradford Postal Code > area........which is Skipton and beyond, Tong and beyond, Cleckheaton and > beyond, & Keighley & Beyond > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Hope no-one minds if they've seen this mail before - for collectors of unusual forenames. I flung this mail at the YORKSGEN list but it's so far met with deafening silence. Might be because of sport and 4th July... Last night I stumbled on a seemingly odd cluster of forenames from my very straightforward ROBINSON clan around Bradford. A Daniel and Hannah Robinson seemingly christened a son ATHRA ROBINSON - transcribed on the IGI as Ethra, but very clearly written on multiple censuses as Athra, and clearly not a typo for Arthur. Athra's a plain old farmer in Shelf. After some googling, I can only come up with two possibilities for Athra as a name: one Iranian (unlikely!) and one from obscure Anglo-Saxon mythology. It also seems it may have been an obscure name/word in Welsh. Athra has a son called FIRTH ROBINSON. Not so unusual a surname, but still odd as a forename. I'm used now to the concept of a child (often a younger boy) being given his wife's maiden name as a forename - my own great-great-grandfather was called Shepherd ROBINSON, his mother born Alice SHEPHERD. But ATHRA doesn't seem to appear anywhere as a surname, and a very likely marriage for his parents (Daniel and Hannah Robinson) has his mother's maiden name as Jennings. Similarly with Firth Robinson - his mother appears to have been born Agnes Pollard. I've of course considered Athra as a variant or misspelling of Arthur, but it doesn't seem likely, or to have occurred elsewhere. The names were given to children in the period 1850-70, and seem unusual affectations for lower class rural families, surrounded as they are by families with the traditional Williams, Johns and biblically derived forenames like Isaacs and Abrahams. Any suggestions on derivations of these names particularly Athra welcome! Finally, Shepherd Robinson's sister Mary seems to have married a plain John Bland and lived on the same farm as Firth Robinson eventually lived on - and Mary and John christened one of their sons Squire (seen as a name from when a child). I can see that this is a more common forename seen elsewhere, and maybe specifically in Yorkshire, but would be interested in its derivation - a play/attempt by lower class families at gentrification via "esquire"? [My connection with the BLAND family? An odd addition to a ROBINSON gravestone from Old Dolphin Chapel, Clayton Heights as sent to me by Bradford Central Library from the Blackburn transcriptions - the graveyard's now just grass. Squire Bland is buried in the Robinson grave, and from census guesses, he's the half-brother of an Isaac Robinson, born illegitimately to Mary I think, Shepherd Robinson's sister before marriage to John Bland.] Paul

Hi all Many replies, so good to know that you are all still out there and the Rootsweb is still functioning It would appear that most of the world is enjoying the sunshine and the football and the tennis The Americans & Canadians are celebrating their national identities Genealogy is a winter sport! Enjoy the sun whilst it lasts! Best wishes Susan

Red Gin was first a simple mine , then a farmhouse and finally a farm/beerhouse in Bowling; it was bought for Holy Trinity church in 1735 and sold in 1859. Can anyone tell me where exactly in the Bowling area Red Gin Farm was located?

Um - those of us in England not to mention Scotland Wales and Ireland Australia New Zealand etc - may not be celebrating July 4th. Ros in Market Harborough where the sun is shining and there is no breeze whatsoever - perhaps everyone else is outside - or at the swimming pool? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lois B." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 12:37 AM Subject: [ BRAD] Re: Is Anyone Out There > Well, the football wasn't very much fun and with most of the US celebrating the long 4th of July weekend, maybe there are only two of us left? > > Best regards, Lois > > > > ______________________________Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 20:48:51 +0100 > From: "susan wiseman" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Where is everybody? > > Is there anyone out there or are you all watching football & tennis? > > > > Lois Blackburn > Massachusetts > > Blackburn, Carr, Dixon, Murgatroyd, Oates, Rollinson, Sugden, Thornton all WRY, mostly Halifax & Bradford. > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > E-mail etiquette pays dividends! - please CAPITALISE surnames, > other text CAPITALisation usually means you are shouting! > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

No - I'm doing what seems like never ending paperwork - its been multiplying in drawers I suspect Ros ----- Original Message ----- From: "susan wiseman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 8:48 PM Subject: [ BRAD] Where is everybody? > Is there anyone out there or are you all watching football & tennis? > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > FLAMING will not be tolerated on this mailing list - Anyone receiving Hostile and/or Unsavoury mail should contact the List Owner and include the received mail > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

A quick Google shows that Cudworth's "Bolton and Bowling" has info on Red Gin farm. Colin Hinson has a CD ROM with this and "Rambles round Horton" -- more info here: http://blunham.com/CDroms/Descriptions/BoltonBowlinHorton.html Rob > Red Gin was first a simple mine , then a farmhouse and finally a farm/beerhouse in Bowling; it was bought for Holy Trinity church in 1735 and sold in 1859. Can anyone tell me where exactly in the Bowling area Red Gin Farm was located? > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > FLAMING will not be tolerated on this mailing list - Anyone receiving Hostile and/or Unsavoury mail should contact the List Owner and include the received mail > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > >

'Where is everybody ?' asks Susan. I don't know where Susan lives,but here in the Northern Hemisphere it's almost mid-summer,a time when a majority of the population is enjoying a well-earned holiday away from home,somewhere in Beautiful Britain,or getting away from it all in some exotic place abroad. For those who are still at home,if the choice is------- a) sitting in a hot library/archives trying to find Great Aunt Agatha,who died somewhere in Yorkshire,sometine in the 1850s,or--- b) slaving over a hot PC trying to find the same info on the net,or-- c) sitting in a shady part of a sun-drenched garden,thinking of nothing particularly erudite,with a tall glass of something cool, interesting and thirst-quenching,well--- I know which I'd rather be doing !!!!!!!! Cheers-----bottoms up-----Derek.

Dear Listers, Dear Listers, Remember Benjamin Benn? He has been a thorn in my side for some time. I had him dead and buried around 1818, but no, I have found him alive and well and living in Durham in 1851. That was great news, because I had neither forward no backward information about Benjamin, but the census has opened a window of hope. He says that he was born in Clayton around 1791. Is there a kind person who could look up one of the parish records for me? His children were baptised in the Bradford Parish Church, and I'm hoping that it's where Benjamin might have a baptism there too. Best wishes, Knola Jeffery New Zealand

Is there anyone out there or are you all watching football & tennis?

And it's Canada Day for us Canucks. Edna in Victoria BC ----- Original Message ----- From: Lois B. To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 4:37 PM Subject: [ BRAD] Re: Is Anyone Out There Well, the football wasn't very much fun and with most of the US celebrating the long 4th of July weekend, maybe there are only two of us left? Best regards, Lois ______________________________Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 20:48:51 +0100 From: "susan wiseman" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Where is everybody? Is there anyone out there or are you all watching football & tennis? Lois Blackburn Massachusetts Blackburn, Carr, Dixon, Murgatroyd, Oates, Rollinson, Sugden, Thornton all WRY, mostly Halifax & Bradford. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== E-mail etiquette pays dividends! - please CAPITALISE surnames, other text CAPITALisation usually means you are shouting! ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Well, the football wasn't very much fun and with most of the US celebrating the long 4th of July weekend, maybe there are only two of us left? Best regards, Lois ______________________________Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 20:48:51 +0100 From: "susan wiseman" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Where is everybody? Is there anyone out there or are you all watching football & tennis? Lois Blackburn Massachusetts Blackburn, Carr, Dixon, Murgatroyd, Oates, Rollinson, Sugden, Thornton all WRY, mostly Halifax & Bradford. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.

Hello, I wonder if anyone knows the area or enumeration district of the above college in the 1841 Census for Bradford. It will assist me in trying to locate someone who was their at the time. I have so far been unsuccessful in finding the college but if I have at least the district I can trawl through the census returns. many thanks Keith

Hi Cas The Index produced by Philip Rushworth, relates to the 177 volumes of MI's produced by Arthur Blackburn. The Mi's recorded are for the Bradford area, excluding most of the municipal cemeteries and does not cover the West Riding. If I remember correctly, the Index is in two sections and both need to be checked. The index is very useful, because quite often people are not buried where you expect them to be. Wives can be buried in their parents plot rather than with their husband, and I have come across references to people who died overseas. Regards John -----Original Message----- From: Cas and LISA Liber (& family) [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 27 June 2006 14:09 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ BRAD] Bradford Central Library lookup request Better still Keith, don't get the index but find the film (of the Blackburn register MIs) of the area you're lookng for on the IGI. The index I guess would be useful if looking for a rare name and unknown locality across west yorkshire. cheers Cas -----Original Message----- From: Janet C [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 27 June 2006 11:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ BRAD] Bradford Central Library lookup request Hi Keith I'm not able to help on this one, as I don't live in the Bradford area either, but did you know that you can borrow a film of the Blackburn Index from your local LDS Family History Centre. Details from the familysearch.org website are as follows:- Title Index to "Inscriptions and monumental stones and tablets" compiled by A. Blackburn, 1928-1933 Authors Rushworth, Philip (Main Author) Blackburn, Arthur . Inscriptions and monumental stones and tablets (Name/Title) Index to "Inscriptions and monumental stones and tablets" compiled by A. Blackburn, 1928-1933 FHL BRITISH Film 1648143 Item 2 Good luck, I hope you find what you're looking for. Janet C Cheadle Hulme, Cheshire >From: "Keith Farrell" <[email protected]> >If any kind listers are visiting Bradford Central Library, could they >please check the Blackburn Monument Inscription Volumes for Joseph ROBINSON ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== E-mail etiquette pays dividends! - please CAPITALISE surnames, other text CAPITALisation usually means you are shouting! ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== FLAMING will not be tolerated on this mailing list - Anyone receiving Hostile and/or Unsavoury mail should contact the List Owner and include the received mail ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 268.9.3/374 - Release Date: 23/06/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 268.9.3/374 - Release Date: 23/06/2006

Better still Keith, don't get the index but find the film (of the Blackburn register MIs) of the area you're lookng for on the IGI. The index I guess would be useful if looking for a rare name and unknown locality across west yorkshire. cheers Cas -----Original Message----- From: Janet C [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 27 June 2006 11:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ BRAD] Bradford Central Library lookup request Hi Keith I'm not able to help on this one, as I don't live in the Bradford area either, but did you know that you can borrow a film of the Blackburn Index from your local LDS Family History Centre. Details from the familysearch.org website are as follows:- Title Index to "Inscriptions and monumental stones and tablets" compiled by A. Blackburn, 1928-1933 Authors Rushworth, Philip (Main Author) Blackburn, Arthur . Inscriptions and monumental stones and tablets (Name/Title) Index to "Inscriptions and monumental stones and tablets" compiled by A. Blackburn, 1928-1933 FHL BRITISH Film 1648143 Item 2 Good luck, I hope you find what you're looking for. Janet C Cheadle Hulme, Cheshire >From: "Keith Farrell" <[email protected]> >If any kind listers are visiting Bradford Central Library, could they >please check the Blackburn Monument Inscription Volumes for Joseph ROBINSON ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== E-mail etiquette pays dividends! - please CAPITALISE surnames, other text CAPITALisation usually means you are shouting! ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

I have some WINDLEs from Kirkby Malham, N of Skipton circa 1791 if you are interested Charles Expatriot Yorkshireman Suffolk UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Woolsey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 3:10 PM Subject: [ BRAD] SMITH / WINDLE - Was SHACKLETON MARRIAGE AT BINGLEY > > > Hi List, > > Haven't posted anything in a long while, but I too have a (Tenuous) SMITH > link in the Calversyke area, not a million miles from Bingley. > This family is associated with my Doncaster based WINDLE tribe. > > I don't really want to delve too deeply into any SMITH lines, as I'm > having > enough problems with my WILDMAN and CHAPMAN research in the area, but if > anyone can associate their research to this family, I would like to hear > from you. > > My Maternal GGGrandmother Sarah Ann WINDLE died 7. 5.1913, at 281 > Calversyke Hill Keighley. (was buried Hyde Park Doncaster). > > The informant on the death certificate is named as Eliza SMITH > "Daughter" - > present at death. > > It would appear that my GGGran went to live with the SMITH family in > Calversyke at some point following the death of her husband in 1890 (at > 10.Swifts Court, Marshgate, Doncaster). > > So far I've not been able to find any reference to Calversyke Hill or by > another reference to it as " Calvey the Hill, Calversyke"! > > Also, I don't know of any daughter by the name of Eliza, I've traced all > the > children I know of except one (who vanished into the Keighley area from > Doncaster early 1900's, where she's with my GGGran as a visitor in a > household there on the 1901 census. (I've lost the census record for the > moment, so unable to give details). > > Some time ago I was sent the following info (thanks to Lynn SMITH): > > Eliza Smith died 30th July 1932 in her 71st year . Second wife of Robert > Smith . First wife Martha died 7th April 1892 age 53. Jane Ethel daughter > of > Robert and Eliza died 23 January 1897 aged 2.Robert died 21 June 1915 in > his > 70th year. > > I don't know if this Eliza is the same person my GGGran stayed with or > totally unconnected, but if anyone can make anything of a connection to my > WINDLE family, please contact me. > > Kind regards > > John Woolsey (Bridlington East Yorks). > > Researching: > > WILDMAN - (all years to date.) > Bingley, Morton (East Morton) Laycock, Sutton in Craven, Haworth, > Keighley. > > CHAPMAN - ( 1871 >). Bingley, Sutton in Craven, East Morton. (> 1871) - > Therfield & Kelshall, Hertfordshire). > > HAWKER - Sutton in Craven? (C1900>) > > SMITH (isn't there always one<G>) Any years> - Tenuous link only to my > maternal WINDLE GGrandmother in Doncaster) - Calverley (Hill?) area > Bradford. > > MATHESON - 1900 > Sutton, Bingley, < 1900 Cambridge. (Married into my > CHAPMAN line) > > BROWN - where my WILDMAN line joined up with 'cuz' Joyce Battersby's line > (Grace BROWN & Walter WILDMAN, Walter is my maternal GGGrandfather). > > LIGHTOWLER. Sheffield & Doncaster. All years to date> + Canada? (seem to > have just fallen to earth in Sheffield for a few decades and aparrently > levitated off it again ..........t'was ever thus!). May now have > originated > in Doncaster. (Rupert) > > DAVIS. Doncaster, Worksop, Edwinstowe, Rufford, Thorpe Hesley. (Collateral > to my HOWARD line). > > WINDLE. Doncaster (All Years). Farnsfield NTT (all & anything WINDLE > connected)! Poss DBY > > LINDSEY. (c1900>) Doncaster, Rotherham. (c1950>) (Ben LINDSEY was > connected > to ChristChurch Doncaster somehow. Married into my HOWARD line. > > BONING. NFK. All Years. > > HOWARD. NFK. (All Years.) Rudham, Reedham, Nth Elmham, Norwich. > > HOWARD. Sheffield 1860> to date. Doncaster 1868 to date. > > BRIGHT. LIN. (all years) Spalding, Gedney? > > WOOLSEY. LIN. Spalding, Gedney, Waddington, Gainsborough. > > CARDINAL (Yeeeeees Really! <G> ............... my Ggrandmother Elizabeth, > and myDad never knew.............. I found out at his funeral! > ............ > He would have loved that snippet!) <BG> > Can you just imagine a CARDINAL & WOOLSEY wedding eh! Ye Gods .......... > could only happen to my lot! > LIN.Spalding, Gedney, Ireland? (family lore has it that the family came > from > there, ................. but ................... (isn't there always a > But!)<G> > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Smith [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 24 June 2006 14:56 > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [ BRAD] SHACKLETON MARRIAGE AT BINGLEY > > Joyce > > I have SMITH links to Bingley and wondered if you had any more information > on the grandfather William SMITH - what age, where born, any other family > members? I have a couple of William SMITH links - it's a long shot, but > there might be some connection. > > I also have couple of stray SHACKLETONs that I have recorded, but probably > no direct connection to you; for example, > > 1841 Census. (night of 7 June) 1294/1 2:6 Mill Bank, West Bradford > > Isaac Shackleton 35 ? Y > Hannah do 35 Y > Sarah do 15 Y > Joseph do 14 Y > Hannah do 10 Y > Sarah Smith 60 Ind Y > > (Sarah Smith assumed to be widowed mother of Hannah Shackleton......) > > > Regards > > Stephen Smith > > Researching SKIRROW, SMITH, WOMERSLEY in Bradford and Bingley c 1800 > -----Original Message----- > From: joyce [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 24 June 2006 12:32 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ BRAD] SHACKLETON MARRIAGE AT BINGLEY > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > E-mail etiquette pays dividends! - please CAPITALISE surnames, > other text CAPITALisation usually means you are shouting! > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > >

Hi List, Haven't posted anything in a long while, but I too have a (Tenuous) SMITH link in the Calversyke area, not a million miles from Bingley. This family is associated with my Doncaster based WINDLE tribe. I don't really want to delve too deeply into any SMITH lines, as I'm having enough problems with my WILDMAN and CHAPMAN research in the area, but if anyone can associate their research to this family, I would like to hear from you. My Maternal GGGrandmother Sarah Ann WINDLE died 7. 5.1913, at 281 Calversyke Hill Keighley. (was buried Hyde Park Doncaster). The informant on the death certificate is named as Eliza SMITH "Daughter" - present at death. It would appear that my GGGran went to live with the SMITH family in Calversyke at some point following the death of her husband in 1890 (at 10.Swifts Court, Marshgate, Doncaster). So far I've not been able to find any reference to Calversyke Hill or by another reference to it as " Calvey the Hill, Calversyke"! Also, I don't know of any daughter by the name of Eliza, I've traced all the children I know of except one (who vanished into the Keighley area from Doncaster early 1900's, where she's with my GGGran as a visitor in a household there on the 1901 census. (I've lost the census record for the moment, so unable to give details). Some time ago I was sent the following info (thanks to Lynn SMITH): Eliza Smith died 30th July 1932 in her 71st year . Second wife of Robert Smith . First wife Martha died 7th April 1892 age 53. Jane Ethel daughter of Robert and Eliza died 23 January 1897 aged 2.Robert died 21 June 1915 in his 70th year. I don't know if this Eliza is the same person my GGGran stayed with or totally unconnected, but if anyone can make anything of a connection to my WINDLE family, please contact me. Kind regards John Woolsey (Bridlington East Yorks). Researching: WILDMAN - (all years to date.) Bingley, Morton (East Morton) Laycock, Sutton in Craven, Haworth, Keighley. CHAPMAN - ( 1871 >). Bingley, Sutton in Craven, East Morton. (> 1871) - Therfield & Kelshall, Hertfordshire). HAWKER - Sutton in Craven? (C1900>) SMITH (isn't there always one<G>) Any years> - Tenuous link only to my maternal WINDLE GGrandmother in Doncaster) - Calverley (Hill?) area Bradford. MATHESON - 1900 > Sutton, Bingley, < 1900 Cambridge. (Married into my CHAPMAN line) BROWN - where my WILDMAN line joined up with 'cuz' Joyce Battersby's line (Grace BROWN & Walter WILDMAN, Walter is my maternal GGGrandfather). LIGHTOWLER. Sheffield & Doncaster. All years to date> + Canada? (seem to have just fallen to earth in Sheffield for a few decades and aparrently levitated off it again ..........t'was ever thus!). May now have originated in Doncaster. (Rupert) DAVIS. Doncaster, Worksop, Edwinstowe, Rufford, Thorpe Hesley. (Collateral to my HOWARD line). WINDLE. Doncaster (All Years). Farnsfield NTT (all & anything WINDLE connected)! Poss DBY LINDSEY. (c1900>) Doncaster, Rotherham. (c1950>) (Ben LINDSEY was connected to ChristChurch Doncaster somehow. Married into my HOWARD line. BONING. NFK. All Years. HOWARD. NFK. (All Years.) Rudham, Reedham, Nth Elmham, Norwich. HOWARD. Sheffield 1860> to date. Doncaster 1868 to date. BRIGHT. LIN. (all years) Spalding, Gedney? WOOLSEY. LIN. Spalding, Gedney, Waddington, Gainsborough. CARDINAL (Yeeeeees Really! <G> ............... my Ggrandmother Elizabeth, and myDad never knew.............. I found out at his funeral! ............ He would have loved that snippet!) <BG> Can you just imagine a CARDINAL & WOOLSEY wedding eh! Ye Gods .......... could only happen to my lot! LIN.Spalding, Gedney, Ireland? (family lore has it that the family came from there, ................. but ................... (isn't there always a But!)<G> -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Smith [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 24 June 2006 14:56 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ BRAD] SHACKLETON MARRIAGE AT BINGLEY Joyce I have SMITH links to Bingley and wondered if you had any more information on the grandfather William SMITH - what age, where born, any other family members? I have a couple of William SMITH links - it's a long shot, but there might be some connection. I also have couple of stray SHACKLETONs that I have recorded, but probably no direct connection to you; for example, 1841 Census. (night of 7 June) 1294/1 2:6 Mill Bank, West Bradford Isaac Shackleton 35 ? Y Hannah do 35 Y Sarah do 15 Y Joseph do 14 Y Hannah do 10 Y Sarah Smith 60 Ind Y (Sarah Smith assumed to be widowed mother of Hannah Shackleton......) Regards Stephen Smith Researching SKIRROW, SMITH, WOMERSLEY in Bradford and Bingley c 1800 -----Original Message----- From: joyce [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 24 June 2006 12:32 To: [email protected] Subject: [ BRAD] SHACKLETON MARRIAGE AT BINGLEY

Hi Keith I'm not able to help on this one, as I don't live in the Bradford area either, but did you know that you can borrow a film of the Blackburn Index from your local LDS Family History Centre. Details from the familysearch.org website are as follows:- Title Index to "Inscriptions and monumental stones and tablets" compiled by A. Blackburn, 1928-1933 Authors Rushworth, Philip (Main Author) Blackburn, Arthur . Inscriptions and monumental stones and tablets (Name/Title) Index to "Inscriptions and monumental stones and tablets" compiled by A. Blackburn, 1928-1933 FHL BRITISH Film 1648143 Item 2 Good luck, I hope you find what you're looking for. Janet C Cheadle Hulme, Cheshire >From: "Keith Farrell" <[email protected]> >If any kind listers are visiting Bradford Central Library, could they >please check the Blackburn Monument Inscription Volumes for Joseph ROBINSON