[email protected] wrote snip<> Would anyone have any ideas as to a Village or town > that maybe could start with a Y and end in OLM > > I have a HOLT family in Keighley in 1851 Hi I had a look at the image and I think it is simply Yorkshire very badly written it is followed by Bradford Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Kelleher" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 3:20 AM Subject: [ BRAD] Village near Bradford > Hi > Would anyone have any ideas as to a Village or town > that maybe could start with a Y and end in OLM > > I have a HOLT family in Keighley in 1851 where the children Arthur, Edward > and Edmond are listed as being born in this town. > > Regards Sandra > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > Visit http://www.genuki.org.uk/ for initial information on all > aspects of genealogy in the UK.........For the Bradford pages visit > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Bradford/index.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.2/422 - Release Date: 17/08/2006 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 60 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now!

Hi List This is my first posting and is directed to list members in Bradford. I came to Australia in 1965 as a teenager with my parents. My parents are still alive and in their 80s. My mother told me recently that her mother, father and an un-named person were buried at Bowling Cemetery. The last being her mother Jessie Brewerton in 1964 (nee Coates), her father Charlie Brewerton was buried there earlier. My mother told me that another person was buried in the same grave. His name was Sydney or Sidney surname unknown. Would anyone having access to the Cemetery be able to find any information for me including, the name of the third person, the location of the grave. Thanking you in advance David Rawnsley South Australia

Hi Would anyone have any ideas as to a Village or town that maybe could start with a Y and end in OLM I have a HOLT family in Keighley in 1851 where the children Arthur, Edward and Edmond are listed as being born in this town. Regards Sandra

From: "Roy Stockdill" <[email protected]> > From: "Sandra Kelleher" <[email protected]> > > > Would anyone have any ideas as to a Village or town > > that maybe could start with a Y and end in OLM > > > > I have a HOLT family in Keighley in 1851 where the children Arthur, > > Edward and Edmond are listed as being born in this town.> > > Having looked closely at the image, I have come to the conclusion that > the word you are trying to make out is actually "Yorkshire", followed > by Bradford, meaning all the children were born in Bradford. Some 19th > century enumerators had appalling handwriting. > > The reason I think it's "Yorkshire" is that if you look at the entry > for the wife, Mary Holt, you will see that she was born at St Austell, > Cornwall (Bradford having been crossed out). So when the enumerator > came to list the children after her he had to put Yorkshire at the > beginning of the line and then Bradford. > > I've studied it for several minutes at different sizes and I am 99.9 > per cent certain it says Yorkshire. Compare it with the very first > entry on that page, right at the top, where it says quite clearly > "Yorkshire, Keighley" and I think you will see what I mean.> I should have added that immediately beneath the poorly written "Yorkshire" and "Bradford" in the following lines for the children you get dittoes and then in the next household below them you get "do, Keighley". So yes, it is undoubtedly "Yorkshire". Roy Stockdill Guild of One-Name Studies: www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

From: "Sandra Kelleher" <[email protected]> > Would anyone have any ideas as to a Village or town > that maybe could start with a Y and end in OLM > > I have a HOLT family in Keighley in 1851 where the children Arthur, > Edward and Edmond are listed as being born in this town.> Having looked closely at the image, I have come to the conclusion that the word you are trying to make out is actually "Yorkshire", followed by Bradford, meaning all the children were born in Bradford. Some 19th century enumerators had appalling handwriting. The reason I think it's "Yorkshire" is that if you look at the entry for the wife, Mary Holt, you will see that she was born at St Austell, Cornwall (Bradford having been crossed out). So when the enumerator came to list the children after her he had to put Yorkshire at the beginning of the line and then Bradford. I've studied it for several minutes at different sizes and I am 99.9 per cent certain it says Yorkshire. Compare it with the very first entry on that page, right at the top, where it says quite clearly "Yorkshire, Keighley" and I think you will see what I mean. Roy Stockdill Guild of One-Name Studies: www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

My ggg-grandmother Sally HAGUE married John BOTTOMLEY 14-May-1796 at Bradford pc. She died 28-Jun-1819 in Soaper Lane there and is buried in Dolphin Chapel, Clayton Heights, Bradford. She was recorded as age 39 upon death, implying born about 1780 but perhaps in reality a year of two earlier. The couple lived in N Bierley (Bradford) right on the border with Shelf (Halifax), and had at least seven children. Looking for her parentage. A Sally HAGUE was baptised 2 Mar 1777 Bradford, father Joseph HAGUE. A Sarah HAIGH was baptised 1 Feb 1778 Bradford to David HAIGH, who also had a son Tamar HAIGH bpt in 1783. The 1841 census shows a Tamar HAIGH born abt 1761 in Northowram, so he could be related to David e.g. an uncle. A John HAIGH/HAGUE and Angelina FLETCHER lived (very) nearby for years (apparently no children): he was born about 1811 - so a nephew? Anyone know anything about these people? Thanks Howard Geddes

Looking for any evidence/record of the parentage of Hannah CARR, my gg-grandmother who died 28-Feb-1880 in Grove, Shelf (Halifax) and is buried in Wade House Chapel, Shelf. She married James BOTTOMLEY on 21-Dec-1818 Bradford, with her named as Sarah CARR. The censuses record Hannah CARR being born in Bowling in approx 1801. The couple lived on the Shelf / N Bierley border; they had at least eight if not nine children. Analysis of the IGI shows she might have been a daughter of John CARR & Martha WILSON or of Joseph CARR & Betty FEARNSIDE. Can anyone confirm or repudiate this? Howard Geddes

[email protected] wrote snip<>>>> 1861 Charlotte STEAD, wife, mar., 20, b. Yorks., Bowling. [nee JENNINGS] Hi Could this be Charlotte 1851 1851 England Census Record about Charlotte Jennings Name:Charlotte Jennings Age:10 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1841 Relation:Daughter Father's name:Frederick Mother's name:Charlotte Gender:Female Where born:Bradford, Yorkshire, England Civil parish:Bradford Town:Bradford County/Island:Yorkshire Country:England Registration district:Bradford Sub-registration district:Bradford East End ED, institution, or vessel:22 Neighbors:View others on page Household schedule number:130 Household Members:NameAge Charlotte Jennings43 Charlotte Jennings10 *****************************8888 Frederick Jennings48 Rhoda Jennings13 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Gallop" <[email protected]> To: "xpistiva" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [ BRAD] Look-up request 1851 census Charles STEAD > Well yes indeed this is certainly the right family. I'd come across a > William STEAD marrying a Nancy LUMB in 1843 and thought that this was > possibly my ggg grandparents so your 1841 information clinches it. > > That's pushed back another generation. And I have to look into some LUMBs > and BURTONs as new family names. > > Thanks a lot, Norman G. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "xpistiva" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 9:05 AM > Subject: Fw: [ BRAD] Look-up request 1851 census Charles STEAD > > >> >> >> >>> Hi again >>> this looks like them 1841 >>> William STEAD is a stone mason >>> Christine >>> >>> View RecordAnn Steadabt 1837 Yorkshire, EnglandBradford Yorkshire >>> View RecordChas Steadabt 1840 Yorkshire, EnglandBradford Yorkshire >>> View RecordNancy Steadabt 1816 Yorkshire, EnglandBradford Yorkshire >>> View RecordSusy Steadabt 1835 Yorkshire, EnglandBradford Yorkshire >>> View RecordWm Steadabt 1811 Yorkshire, EnglandBradford Yorkshire >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Norman Gallop" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:20 PM >>> Subject: [ BRAD] Look-up request 1851 census Charles STEAD >>> >>> >>>> The Two Charlies are my gg grandparents. I'd appreciate it if anyone >>>> can locate them in 1851 presumably in Bradford, no doubt in Bowling. >>>> >>>> Wakefield Road is pretty long. Does anyone know which way the numbers >>>> run? >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance, Norman G. >>>> >>>> 1861 census; 118 Wakefield Road, Bowling, Bradford; >>>> Charles STEAD, head, mar., 21, stone mason, b. Yorks., Bowling; >>>> Charlotte STEAD, wife, mar., 20, b. Yorks., Bowling. [nee JENNINGS] >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== >>>> Its expected that all subscribers to the list have a virus detection >>>> program installed. If you dont have one then please install one >>>> immediately. ***** You Know It Makes Sense ***** >>>> >>>> ============================== >>>> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>>> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>> Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.8/415 - Release Date: >>>> 09/08/2006 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== >>> This list covers Keighley through to Bradford..................through >>> to Skipton...................and beyond. Please feel free to post about >>> these places. >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.9/416 - Release Date: >>> 10/08/2006 >>> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >> It has removed 35 spam emails to date. >> Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >> Try SPAMfighter for free now! >> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.8/415 - Release Date: >> 09/08/2006 >> >> > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.9/416 - Release Date: 10/08/2006 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 35 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now!

Hi again this looks like them 1841 William STEAD is a stone mason Christine View RecordAnn Steadabt 1837 Yorkshire, EnglandBradford Yorkshire View RecordChas Steadabt 1840 Yorkshire, EnglandBradford Yorkshire View RecordNancy Steadabt 1816 Yorkshire, EnglandBradford Yorkshire View RecordSusy Steadabt 1835 Yorkshire, EnglandBradford Yorkshire View RecordWm Steadabt 1811 Yorkshire, EnglandBradford Yorkshire ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Gallop" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:20 PM Subject: [ BRAD] Look-up request 1851 census Charles STEAD > The Two Charlies are my gg grandparents. I'd appreciate it if anyone can > locate them in 1851 presumably in Bradford, no doubt in Bowling. > > Wakefield Road is pretty long. Does anyone know which way the numbers run? > > Thanks in advance, Norman G. > > 1861 census; 118 Wakefield Road, Bowling, Bradford; > Charles STEAD, head, mar., 21, stone mason, b. Yorks., Bowling; > Charlotte STEAD, wife, mar., 20, b. Yorks., Bowling. [nee JENNINGS] > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > Its expected that all subscribers to the list have a virus detection > program installed. If you dont have one then please install one > immediately. ***** You Know It Makes Sense ***** > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.8/415 - Release Date: 09/08/2006 > >

[email protected] wrote snip<> 1861 census; 118 Wakefield Road, Bowling, Bradford; > Charles STEAD, head, mar., 21, stone mason, b. Yorks., Bowling; Hi Norman Could this be Charles living Wakefield Road Mother Nancy shows married 1851 England Census Record about Charles Stead Name:Charles Stead Age:10 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1841 Relation:Son Mother's name:Nancy Gender:Male Where born:Bradford, Yorkshire, England Registration district:Bradford Sub-registration district:Bowling ED, institution, or vessel:3 Neighbors:View others on page Household schedule number:17 Household Members:NameAge Anne Stead14 Charles Stead10 ************************************ Eliza Stead5 Nancy Stead36 Sarah Stead16 William Stead7 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Gallop" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:20 PM Subject: [ BRAD] Look-up request 1851 census Charles STEAD > The Two Charlies are my gg grandparents. I'd appreciate it if anyone can > locate them in 1851 presumably in Bradford, no doubt in Bowling. > > Wakefield Road is pretty long. Does anyone know which way the numbers run? > > Thanks in advance, Norman G. > > 1861 census; 118 Wakefield Road, Bowling, Bradford; > Charles STEAD, head, mar., 21, stone mason, b. Yorks., Bowling; > Charlotte STEAD, wife, mar., 20, b. Yorks., Bowling. [nee JENNINGS] > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > Its expected that all subscribers to the list have a virus detection > program installed. If you dont have one then please install one > immediately. ***** You Know It Makes Sense ***** > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.8/415 - Release Date: 09/08/2006 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 35 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now!

The Two Charlies are my gg grandparents. I'd appreciate it if anyone can locate them in 1851 presumably in Bradford, no doubt in Bowling. Wakefield Road is pretty long. Does anyone know which way the numbers run? Thanks in advance, Norman G. 1861 census; 118 Wakefield Road, Bowling, Bradford; Charles STEAD, head, mar., 21, stone mason, b. Yorks., Bowling; Charlotte STEAD, wife, mar., 20, b. Yorks., Bowling. [nee JENNINGS]

Replies sent offlist. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Gallop" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:20 PM Subject: [ BRAD] Look-up request 1851 census Charles STEAD

Norman, May I suggest contacting Shelagh A Mason in Kent, UK, who is a member of the Guild Of One Name Studies, aka GOONS, - because she has a large data base of STEAD names...and is very nice;-) Contact her using: [email protected] It is often worth checking a surname on the Guild website as many surnames are being extensively researched - sadly no Smiths or Browns.....but lots of others. Here's the page to look at all those currently registered: http://www.one-name.org/register.shtml Good luck, Ruth in Brum. > The Two Charlies are my gg grandparents. I'd appreciate it if anyone can locate them in 1851 presumably in Bradford, no doubt in Bowling. > > Wakefield Road is pretty long. Does anyone know which way the numbers run? > > Thanks in advance, Norman G. > > 1861 census; 118 Wakefield Road, Bowling, Bradford; > Charles STEAD, head, mar., 21, stone mason, b. Yorks., Bowling; > Charlotte STEAD, wife, mar., 20, b. Yorks., Bowling. [nee JENNINGS]

Hi Christine, Thanks so much for all the help in researching this family. I sent for the marriage license and Margaret Benn's father was listed as Samuel Benn so who Benjamin was is a mystery - maybe her father's brother. Since they were living at the same address, that's a possibility. I have a friend whose father married her mother's sister after her death. I'm coming to believe no matter how much information you find, there seems to be more questions. Regards. Esther __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi All I asked a friend of mine as I have never searched in Bradford. Her answer "You can search Scholemoor yourself if you go to the office and I think they may have the Bowling records there also. You can have a search done for them but I think it is rather expensive and also someone I was in touch with said they waited absolutely ages. I have found the man at Scholemoor very knowledgeable and pleasant to speak to on the phone and he has checked the odd one for me when I knew the exact date of death --over the phone by me phoning him back an hour or so later" Jan www.simplesite.com/Keighleyhistory

Hi All I asked a friend of mine as I have never searched in Bradford. Her answer "You can search Scholemoor yourself if you go to the office and I think they may have the Bowling records there also. You can have a search done for them but I think it is rather expensive and also someone I was in touch with said they waited absolutely ages. I have found the man at Scholemoor very knowledgeable and pleasant to speak to on the phone and he has checked the odd one for me when I knew the exact date of death --over the phone by me phoning him back an hour or so later" Jan www.simplesite.com/Keighleyhistory

Hi Harry Bowling Burial Registers are at Scholemoor. The charge for looking up a burial etc was £27 GBP. It may be more now. They used to do this for freee but the Bradford Council put a charge on it. This also applies to Utley Cemetery in Keighley. Last time I visited there they even charged to look to see who else was in a certain grave. Searching the registers for yourself is free but obviously you can't do this from Canada. Undercliffe Friends usually ask for a donation. Kind regards Judith K ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barb & Harry Blott" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 7:57 PM Subject: [ BRAD] Cemeteries > Does anyone know if I would get the same results from Scholemoor/Bowling > cemetery as Barry got from Undercliffe cemetery and if so how? > > Harry (Canada) > > > ==== ENG-YKS-BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > Its expected that all subscribers to the list have a virus detection > program installed. If you dont have one then please install one > immediately. ***** You Know It Makes Sense ***** > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

Following on from my enquiry last month and the helpful replies I got I thought you'd be interested to know the outcome. I wrote to The Friends of Undercliffe Cemetary and have received a most helpful response from their Registrar, Mrs Ann Clark, providing me with details of the graves I was seeking and maps showing me whereabouts in the grounds I would find them. I shall be writing to thank Mrs Clark for her kindness. Barry Emmott

Does anyone know if I would get the same results from Scholemoor/Bowling cemetery as Barry got from Undercliffe cemetery and if so how? Harry (Canada)

Would anybody know if I would get the same response from Scholemoor/Bowling cemeteries as Barry got from Undercliffe cemetery ? Harry (Canada)