Thank you very much to all those who replied to my original query. I trust that I have replied individually but just in case - thanks to all I have learnt a lot - I have had some things confirmed - I have been pointed to other sources - and I have been pleasantly surprised as some new avenues for research have opened up as I now know that one set of my maternal great-great-grandparents, well at least the husband, came from Devon! Jim Jim & Beverley Payne NEW ZEALAND jr_bjpayne@xtra.co.nz Our web page has moved to the following URL: http://www.shampayne.org.nz > > My maternal great-grandparents left England to settle in New > Zealand in 1874 and although I know something about their > life in England I was wondering if SKS could help me with a > look up in the earlier English census. I realize that the > lack of an index in many of these census makes it hard to > locate people but nothing ventured - nothing lost! > > My great-grandfather was Thomas Nathaniel or Nathaniel Thomas > PAYTON b 1840 High gate, Parish of Ashton, WAR, ENG s/o > Frederick PEYTON/PAYTON and Ann DOWNERS while my great-grand > mother was Ann MARTIN b Yardley, WORK, ENG d/o John MARTIN and > Charity PARK HOUSE. They were married 10 June 1861 Beardsley, > WAR, ENG which was after the 1861 census so I would like to > know about the details on the 1871 census probably in > Yardley, WORK, ENG with their children Mary Jane b 1862, > Frederick John b 1864, and Eliza b 1868 - my grandmother > > I would also like to see the 1841, 1851 and 1861 census pages > or full details for each of Thomas Nathaniel PAYTON and Ann > MARTIN when they were single (and living with their parents?) > >