Many years ago I found the following on the Worcestershire 1881 census fiche: 13 Canal Side E, Oldbury, Worcestershire: Name Age Birthplace Relationship Occupation Thomas Sands 47 Quina Brook, Shropshire, England Head Carrier Sarah Sands 43 Oldbury, Worcestershire, England Wife Hannah Sands 17 Oldbury, Worcestershire, England Daughter Thomas Sands 16 Oldbury, Worcestershire, England Sarah Sands 11 Oldbury, Worcestershire, England Daughter Samuel Sands 9 Oldbury, Worcestershire, England Son John Sands 7 Oldbury, Worcestershire, England Son James Sands 5 Oldbury, Worcestershire, England Son Mary Sands 3 Oldbury, Worcestershire, England Daughter Hannah Brane 23 Oldbury, Worcestershire, England Daughter James Brane 28 Millfield, Staffordshire, England Son in Law Boatman Not sure why two daughters both called Hannah. Although I am not descended from any of them, we do all share common ancestors. Could sks with access to the 1891 and 1901 censuses find out if they were still there, please? I would also be very pleased to hear from anyone who has them on their tree or knows anything about them or their descendants. Working "upwards" I hit a brick wall around 1700 some 25 years or more ago so I am now trying to work "downwards" which is much more difficult! It is only through the power of the internet and marvellous people such as those on this list that I stand a chance! Many thanks John