Thanks Nuala & Linda, That locates all the HIDE family upto 1851 except Jane (b1827) who married Thomas Baker about 1849 in Worcester and had a child, Jane Frances (b1850). I have located the family in the 1871 census who had moved to Liverpool by then but have not been able to located them in the 1861 census, other than Cornelius who was lodging in West Bromwich. I guess they may have either been missed or mis-transcribed. If you need any look-ups at Liverpool Record archives let me know. kindest regards, Al from Wirral