Hello Gus I can not thankyou enough for your help, I will see if I can pick them all up under Hallchurch, I never thought to try that in the 1871 Census, but one of Ann's children has the middle name of Hallchurch. Thankyou Elaine Smith In Raining Queensland Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Tysoe" <gtysoe@jtysoe.fsnet.co.uk> To: "Elaine Smith" <famgenes@bigpond.net.au> Cc: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [WOR] ALLCHURCH > Hello Elaine, > > Stourbridge Registration District in fact originally straddled *three* > Counties - its three Sub-Districts being: > 1) Halesowen - mainly a Detached Part of Shropshire (although > transferred > to Worcestershire in 1844) > 2) Stourbridge - all in Worcestershire except Amblecote, which remained > stubbornly Staffordshire until as recently as 1966 > 3) Kingswinford - all, always, in Staffordshire > The whole area disappeared into the unlamented "County of West Midlands" > in > 1973, but following that County's Balkanisation in the mid-1990s it's now > anybody's guess where they might be! > > But for all Censuses after 1841, the whole District was deemed to be in > Worcestershire - so you're on the right list! > > > And here's the family - masquerading under the name of HALLCHURCH... > > 1851 Census HO107 - Piece 2036 > Registration District - Stourbridge > Registration Sub-District - Kingswinford > Parish - Kingswinford > Township - Brockmoor > Folio 581; Househild 125 - Brockmoor Bridge > Thomas HALLCHURCH, Head, M, 38, M, Coal miner, STS, Kingswinford > Sarah HALLCHURCH, Wife, M, 32, F, -, STS, Kingswinford > Luke HALLCHURCH, Son, -, 9, M, Scholar, STS, Kingswinford > Joseph HALLCHURCH, Son, -, 5, M, Scholar, STS, Kingswinford > Margaret HALLCHURCH, Dau, -, 3, F, -, STS, Kingswinford > Ann HALLCHURCH, Dau, -, 7m, F, -, STS, Kingswinford > > And in the very next house > Folio 581; Househild 126 - Brockmoor Bridge > Ann HALLCHURCH, Head, W, 58, F, Housewife, STS, Kingswinford > Samuel HALLCHURCH, Son, U, 22, M, Labourer, STS, Kingswinford > David HALLCHURCH, Son, U, 18, M, Labourer, STS, Kingswinford > Jane HALLCHURCH, Dau, U, 17, F, -, STS, Kingswinford > > HTH > > Gus > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Elaine Smith <famgenes@bigpond.net.au> > To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 1:48 AM > Subject: [WOR] ALLCHURCH > > >> Hi Listers, >> I am new to this particular list, >> I have been for some time researching the Allchurch surname, with out >> much > success until last night. >> >> Ann Allchurch born between 1850 -1853 Stourbridge >> I have her on the 1871 Census living in Derbyshire as a servant >> 1881-1901 Census living in Attercliffe Yorkshire, Married to Joseph > Driver, so far I havent been able to find a marriage for them, but suspect > they married in Eckington Derbyshire >> >> I think I have her now on the 1861 Census, age 10, Scholar >> >> Source information: RG9/2072 >> Registration district: Stourbridge >> Sub-registration district: Kingswinford >> ED, institution, or vessel: 18 >> Folio: 34 >> Page: 61 >> Household schedule number: 296 >> GSU Number: 542913 >> >> >> >> >> Other Members of the family are Sarah age 42 Widow, Luke age 19 Coal > Miner, Joseph age 15 Labourer at Stone Works, Margaret age 15, David age > 8, > and Thomas age 6, The street name for the 1861 census looks like Little > John > St. >> Living next door to this family is Ann Allurch 68, and her son Samuel 34, > I suspect they are related as well >> Is there any one who may be able to see if the family is at the above > address in 1851 >> >> I found this birth reference for Ann on Ancestry.com if it is the correct > one Sep ¼ 1850, Stourbridge Vol 18 Page 493 and the confusing part here > for > me is that Stourbridge came under Staffordshire as well >> I hope I am on the correct list or should I be on the Staffordshire list? >> Appreciate any help >> Thanks >> Elaine Smith >> QLD, Australia >> >> >> ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== >> Transcribers wanted for Worcestershire FreeREG >> for more information see http://freereg.rootsweb.com >> UK Census on-line >> http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ >> http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/ >> >> > >