wondered if somebody who has the 1851 census for Dudley could take a look at an OLD entry I've just found that has slipped down the back of my filing cabinet its for 143 Primrose Hill Charles TUCKER hd 31yrs coal miner born abt 1820 Withington Parish ?? Ann TUCKER wife 23yrs born Dudley Worcs Albert TUCKER son 4yrs born abt 1846/47 Dudley Worcs Rachel TUCKER 3YRS b abt 1848 Dudley Worcs William TUCKER 1yr born 1850 Dudley Sarah DIMMOCK 10yrs servant Dudley Worcs This is my family I have the marriage certificate for Charles & Ann dated 6th September 1845 at Dudley Parish Church after Banns Assume this is St Thomas's? Charles TUCKER ofa bat a Miner of Dudley [father William TUCKER deceased -miner] Ann DIMMOCK minor sp of Dudley [father Samuel DIMMOCK -nailer] Wittnesses were Jane PARRY & Roasannah LITTLE [nne TUCKER] I have a couple of questions SKS with more know how than me might be able to help me with here goes! 1] Where is Withington Parish [can't find it on a map] 2]Why would Ann give her age a minor would that mean she'd under 18yrs of age [is that considered to be a minor?] 3]Would they have a relation as a servant? 4] How far from Dudley would a family travel to work [mines] and did they travel a great distance in those days as my 1st recorded Tucker is with a marriage of Samuel TUCKER to Elizabeth SHELDON at St Mary's church Oldswinford 26th October 1776 then I lose track of the family till a nother marriage in 1804 again Oldswinford then this entry. Any help or pushes in the right direction gratefully received as this is really bugging me now. Best wishes Denise Sargeant[nee TUCKER]

On 03 Jun, denisesargeant1 <denisesargeant1@ntlworld.com> wrote: > 1] Where is Withington Parish [can't find it on a map] Pass! > 2]Why would Ann give her age a minor would that mean she'd under 18yrs > of age [is that considered to be a minor?] In those days you reached the "age of majority" at 21, so she could be 20. > 3]Would they have a relation as a servant? Yes my Cornelius Dancer had as a servant his niece Parthena. I suspect it was quite common. > 4] How far from Dudley would a family travel to work [mines] and did > they travel a great distance in those days They could do while looking for work. Oldswinford is only about 8 miles from Dudley, not far at all really. Actually thinking about it, my Cornelius Dancer was born in Oldswinford in 1827, but married in 1851 at St Thomas's Church in Dudley. Coincidence! -- Chris Ramsbottom researching: BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY CAMPTON, GREGORY all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day

There's a Withington in Shropshire, about mid-way between Shrewsbury and Wellington (West Telford), and close to the A5. Not too difficult to travel - even on foot - in the period 1820-50. And Whittington - which is how it appears on the Index/Transcript CD, but as the Transcriber evidently had difficulty with the writing on this page (Sarah DIMMOCK is shown as 'DINMORE?') so Whittington, too, may be wrong - is in Staffordshire, about 3 miles West of the Western edge of Stourbridge. There was an easy Flat Route from Whittington to Netherton along the towpaths of the Staffs & Worcs and then the Stourbridge Canals - although the Direct Route would be shorter... There'd be nothing to prevent them having a relative as a Servant - but are you *sure* of the reading of the surname??? There were mines - coal, ironstone, fireclay - all over Dudley... They almost certainly would've married at St Thomas if it was described as 'Dudley Parish Church' - the other churches in the ttown were no more than 'District Churches' in 1845. Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: denisesargeant1 <denisesargeant1@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 6:46 PM Subject: [WOR] 1851 census look up please > wondered if somebody who has the 1851 census for Dudley could take a look at > an OLD entry I've just found that has slipped down the back of my filing > cabinet its for > 143 Primrose Hill > Charles TUCKER hd 31yrs coal miner born abt 1820 Withington Parish ?? > Ann TUCKER wife 23yrs born Dudley Worcs > Albert TUCKER son 4yrs born abt 1846/47 Dudley Worcs > Rachel TUCKER 3YRS b abt 1848 Dudley Worcs > William TUCKER 1yr born 1850 Dudley > Sarah DIMMOCK 10yrs servant Dudley Worcs > This is my family I have the marriage certificate for Charles & Ann dated > 6th September 1845 at Dudley Parish Church after Banns > Assume this is St Thomas's? > Charles TUCKER ofa bat a Miner of Dudley [father William TUCKER > deceased -miner] > Ann DIMMOCK minor sp of Dudley [father Samuel DIMMOCK -nailer] > Wittnesses were > Jane PARRY & Roasannah LITTLE [nne TUCKER] > I have a couple of questions SKS with more know how than me might be able to > help me with here goes! > 1] Where is Withington Parish [can't find it on a map] > 2]Why would Ann give her age a minor would that mean she'd under 18yrs of > age [is that considered to be a minor?] > 3]Would they have a relation as a servant? > 4] How far from Dudley would a family travel to work [mines] and did they > travel a great distance in those days > as my 1st recorded Tucker is with a marriage of Samuel TUCKER to Elizabeth > SHELDON at St Mary's church Oldswinford 26th October 1776 then I lose track > of the family till a nother marriage in 1804 again Oldswinford then this > entry. > Any help or pushes in the right direction gratefully received as this is > really bugging me now. > Best wishes > Denise Sargeant[nee TUCKER] > > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > Transcribers wanted for Worcestershire FreeREG > for more information see http://freereg.rootsweb.com > UK Census on-line > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/ > >

Hi John, Just read your e-mail,am putting a brief history of my family,just in case it helps,as regards travel in 1800,s GGrandfather born Cleobury Mortimer Shropshire,1812 married in 1836 in Lindridge Worcestershire, lived in Kinver Staffordshire,although one census I cant remember which,a birth is listed as Whittington,this place is somehow,also linked with Lady Jane Gray. my grandfather married my gran,who was born in Netherton Dudley,married at St.James Church 1870,her first children were born in Stourbridge,then all the family,Great gran and g uncles etc, by 1900,s were in Kingswinford,Wallheath area. hope this helps a bit Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Tysoe" <gtysoe@jtysoe.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [WOR] 1851 census look up please > > There's a Withington in Shropshire, about mid-way between Shrewsbury and > Wellington (West Telford), and close to the A5. Not too difficult to > travel - even on foot - in the period 1820-50. > > And Whittington - which is how it appears on the Index/Transcript CD, but as > the Transcriber evidently had difficulty with the writing on this page > (Sarah DIMMOCK is shown as 'DINMORE?') so Whittington, too, may be wrong - > is in Staffordshire, about 3 miles West of the Western edge of Stourbridge. > There was an easy Flat Route from Whittington to Netherton along the > towpaths of the Staffs & Worcs and then the Stourbridge Canals - although > the Direct Route would be shorter... > > > There'd be nothing to prevent them having a relative as a Servant - but are > you *sure* of the reading of the surname??? > > > There were mines - coal, ironstone, fireclay - all over Dudley... > > > They almost certainly would've married at St Thomas if it was described as > 'Dudley Parish Church' - the other churches in the ttown were no more than > 'District Churches' in 1845. > > Gus > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: denisesargeant1 <denisesargeant1@ntlworld.com> > To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 6:46 PM > Subject: [WOR] 1851 census look up please > > > > wondered if somebody who has the 1851 census for Dudley could take a look > at > > an OLD entry I've just found that has slipped down the back of my filing > > cabinet its for > > 143 Primrose Hill > > Charles TUCKER hd 31yrs coal miner born abt 1820 Withington Parish ?? > > Ann TUCKER wife 23yrs born Dudley Worcs > > Albert TUCKER son 4yrs born abt 1846/47 Dudley Worcs > > Rachel TUCKER 3YRS b abt 1848 Dudley Worcs > > William TUCKER 1yr born 1850 Dudley > > Sarah DIMMOCK 10yrs servant Dudley Worcs > > This is my family I have the marriage certificate for Charles & Ann dated > > 6th September 1845 at Dudley Parish Church after Banns > > Assume this is St Thomas's? > > Charles TUCKER ofa bat a Miner of Dudley [father William TUCKER > > deceased -miner] > > Ann DIMMOCK minor sp of Dudley [father Samuel DIMMOCK -nailer] > > Wittnesses were > > Jane PARRY & Roasannah LITTLE [nne TUCKER] > > I have a couple of questions SKS with more know how than me might be able > to > > help me with here goes! > > 1] Where is Withington Parish [can't find it on a map] > > 2]Why would Ann give her age a minor would that mean she'd under 18yrs of > > age [is that considered to be a minor?] > > 3]Would they have a relation as a servant? > > 4] How far from Dudley would a family travel to work [mines] and did they > > travel a great distance in those days > > as my 1st recorded Tucker is with a marriage of Samuel TUCKER to Elizabeth > > SHELDON at St Mary's church Oldswinford 26th October 1776 then I lose > track > > of the family till a nother marriage in 1804 again Oldswinford then this > > entry. > > Any help or pushes in the right direction gratefully received as this is > > really bugging me now. > > Best wishes > > Denise Sargeant[nee TUCKER] > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > > Transcribers wanted for Worcestershire FreeREG > > for more information see http://freereg.rootsweb.com > > UK Census on-line > > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > > http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/ > > > > > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > For Worcestershire information see > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WOR/ > UK Census on-line > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/ > >