Hi there, Thanks for the suggestion. Where can I find the WOR Marriages Index? I don't live in the UK, I live in New York, USA Suzanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Tysoe" <gtysoe@jtysoe.fsnet.co.uk> To: "Suzanne Boughton" <psgtype@ix.netcom.com> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 8:15 AM Subject: Re: [WOR] Surname Boughton > Hi Suzanne, > > I take it you've found and seem his baptism in one of the Droitwich > Churches. You know his mother's name - it might be worthwhile for me to see > if she married there (or perhaps in Kidderminster) and is in the WOR > Marriages Index. > > I'd not anticipate that there'd be *that* many Sarah BOUGHTONs listed... > > But it won't prove John's father's name - but if the marriage was *very* > close to his baptism, then that could be a Clue. > > Gus > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Suzanne Boughton <psgtype@ix.netcom.com> > To: John Tysoe <gtysoe@jtysoe.fsnet.co.uk>; <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 1:45 PM > Subject: Re: [WOR] Surname Boughton > > > > Hi Gus, > > > > Yeah, I am not that lucky usually so I guess I should just enjoy it. > > > > John was married twice, in 1841 in Worcestershire and in 1864 in > Yorkshire. > > I have both of his marriage certificates. > > > > I guess I have just about as much as I can easily find on him since there > > isn't much pre 1837. I don't know how to find much on his mother who I > > guess would have been born 1780-1800 probably in Droitwich or nearby. > > > > I have lots on his children and if I ever get to the UK I would love to go > > to the area they lived. Maybe someday. > > > > Thanks, > > Suzanne > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Tysoe" <gtysoe@jtysoe.fsnet.co.uk> > > To: "Suzanne Boughton" <psgtype@ix.netcom.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 2:38 AM > > Subject: Re: [WOR] Surname Boughton > > > > > > > Hi Suzanne, > > > > > > So *that* explains the presence of birth date and absence of baptism > date > > ! > > > You were > > > indeed *amazingly* lucky to get that sort of information from an English > > > Newspaper of that - or any other - date :-) > > > > > > The 1841 Census has survived, but is neither on-line nor indexed. Not > only > > > that, but it gives very little useful genealogical detail or 'proofs', > > > because: > > > 1) it doesn't give Relationships within the Household > > > 2) it doesn't give birthplaces beyond "in this County Y/N?" > > > 3) Ages of adults are rounded-down to the next multiple of 5 > > > 4) Addresses are even more vestigial than the 1851 > > > > > > OTOH, if he married before 1 July 1837 - and in Worcestershire - then > his > > > marriage should be able to be found in the WOR Marriages Index - which I > > > could look at if that would help. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Gus > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Suzanne Boughton <psgtype@ix.netcom.com> > > > To: John Tysoe <gtysoe@jtysoe.fsnet.co.uk> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:51 PM > > > Subject: Re: [WOR] Surname Boughton > > > > > > > > > > Hi Gus, > > > > > > > > The christening records didn't give his date of birth. Through sheer > > luck > > > I > > > > found out that there was an article in the local newspaper when he > died. > > > It > > > > seems he died in Halifax in 1907 and he was the oldest resident in the > > > area > > > > at the time. I contacted the local library and since I knew the date > of > > > the > > > > article a wonderful librarian looked it up and sent me a copy. As luck > > > would > > > > have it, it mentioned his date of birth. > > > > > > > > That kind of luck will probably never happen again. > > > > > > > > I had a feeling that there would be no birth records pre 1837 but I > > > thought > > > > maybe someone knew something that I didn't. > > > > > > > > Is there any records for the 1841 census that you know of? > > > > > > > > Thanks again, > > > > Suzanne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "John Tysoe" <gtysoe@jtysoe.fsnet.co.uk> > > > > To: "Suzanne Boughton" <psgtype@ix.netcom.com> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 12:44 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [WOR] Surname Boughton > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Suzanne, > > > > > > > > > > I'm sorry, but you have no chance whatever of obtaining a birth > > > > certificate > > > > > earlier than 1 July 1837. All there was up to that date were Church > > > > > records - and it'd appear you've seen his baptismal entry. I'm > > > surprised, > > > > > though, that it gave the date of his birth. > > > > > > > > > > Gus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: Suzanne Boughton <psgtype@ix.netcom.com> > > > > > To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:35 PM > > > > > Subject: [WOR] Surname Boughton > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am new to this list and wonder if anyone knows anything about > the > > > name > > > > > Boughton > > > > > > > > > > > > My great great grandfather, John Boughton, was born 23 December > 1814 > > > in > > > > > Droitwich. He was the illegitimate son of Sarah Boughton. I have no > > idea > > > > who > > > > > his father was and that is all the information I have on his mother. > I > > > > found > > > > > out about him being illegitmate from his christening record found > from > > > my > > > > > local family history center. > > > > > > > > > > > > John went to work in the carpet weaving field when he was only > eleve > > n > > > > year > > > > > old in Kidderminster where he met and married his first wife, Louisa > > > Hunt, > > > > > in Kidderminster. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have found him in the 1851 census. From that point on the family > > > moved > > > > > to Halifax in Yorkshire. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have much information from that point on but I have little info > > from > > > > the > > > > > early years. > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there any way to find a birth certificate or to find out > anything > > > > about > > > > > his mother, grandparents etc.? > > > > > > > > > > > > And is there anyone out there who might be looking for the name > > > > Boughton? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Suzanne Boughton > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > > > > > > Transcribers wanted for Worcestershire FreeREG > > > > > > for more information see http://freereg.rootsweb.com > > > > > > UK Census on-line > > > > > > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >