Thanks to all who replied. Now have the family in 1851 AND 1841. I am digesting the info. Will no doubt be back with further queries. Thanks again, Tony Hunt Stockton-on-Tees. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.1/64 - Release Date: 04/08/05