Thank you Polly, it seems we've all been hoping for the wrong bird! So if it does get online as MAGPIE it should be an improvement on what we have now (with the extra details) but it won't give us the missing registrations. Perhaps we ought to be putting pressure on the "powers that be" to give us what we need. Vivien From: "Polly Rubery" <[email protected]> > > It was never intended that the DoVE index was going to be made available to > the public. Instead it was going to be used to inform the "Multiple Access > to GRO Published Index Events (MAGPIE) Project", which was what was going to > be made available online to the public. >