Many thanks,for the information,yes the John and Elizabeth are mine.the death date is were those of us searching for this family have sumised the birthdate from.Mary ended her days in the local workhouse -listed as a imbecile.John the son is my ancestor.I've seen the John born 1776 in Worcester,but have a feeling I've also seen his death later the same year.I'm off to the SOG next week so will have another look there,as well as some other family members I want to trace. Barbara __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com