Hello Viv Your suggestion is very possible - in fact I had wondered whether Edwin might have been the son of his elder "sister" Emily who would have been about 17 when he was born, I know that illegitimate children were sometimes disguised in that way. It looks as though he may be one of those little snags that crop up in family history and can't be resolved - he grew up to be a nasty piece of work too! Joan Message: 7 Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 23:44:17 -0000 From: "Mike Palmer" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WOR] Pound of Rochford To: "Joan Cowdell" <[email protected]>, "Mailing List Worcs." <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Hello Joan, I am wondering if all these children really were George and Elizabeth's. George and Maria's baptisms are also missing from the IGI extracted records, and if Maria was 17 in 1891 then she would be the same age as her sister Elizabeth, and Elizabeth's baptism is on IGI. Maria's age is not clear so maybe she was 7 as she's at the end of the list, but her mother was then 54, making her 47 at the time of birth. That's not impossible, but they could have been taking in the children of an older son or daughter (their eldest, Henry, was born in 1864). The younger children could have been born elsewhere and possibly with a different name! I don't want to make you feel pessimistic, but it's a good idea to keep all the options open! Viv ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 23:53:36 -0000 From: "Mike Palmer" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WOR] Pound of Rochford To: "WorcsList rootsweb" <[email protected]>, "Joan Cowdell" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Hi Joan, I did find Maria baptised in 1882, which makes her at least 9 in 1891, not 7 or 17! That still leaves George and Edwin to find. Maybe it was mix and match, some of their children and some extra ones. Maria was the same age as George if he was really 9 in 1891 so maybe they juggled the ages to make it look believable! Viv Could anyone offer advice on a problem? I have George and Elizabeth POUND recorded on every census from 1871 to 1901 living at Rochford, Worcs. with a dozen or so children. The births of the children are all recorded at the GRO and their baptisms appear on the IGI ? all except one, and of course he is the one I need! He is Edwin POUND born about 1876 and he doesn?t seem to have been registered or baptised, and I don?t understand why when all the other children were ? and he wasn?t the first or last child, he came right in the middle. He is on the 1881 census aged 5, on the 1891 aged 14, and on the 1901 (called Edward but I can accept that as a mistake by the enumerator) aged 25. Does anyone have access to the Rochford parish records, who would be willing to look at children of George and Elizabeth through the 1870?s? And has anyone got any other suggestions? I would really like his birth certificate but I need some proof that he was born! Joan No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1258 - Release Date: 04/02/2008 10:10