Eveline, Ah, I see now from your later mail that you have the index for a civil registration for the marriage between Samuel and Jane. Since you're certain it is theirs, I imagine it would be worth sending away for it, as it should at least give you some information on fathers and their occupation to help you on your way. Enjoy the trail, Katie de Haan ----- Original Message ----From: "Eveline Clarke" <[email protected]> To: "Worcester Rootsweb" <[email protected]>; "Ann" <[email protected]>Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [WOR] 1881 Census Samuel Biddle born c 1867. One relation has him born in Warwickshire, but both the 1891 and the 1901 has him as born in Worcestershire. Samuel married Jane Hollands 1890 in Worcester 6c 491. They had 5 children Florence 1890, Samuel 1892, William 1895, Lucy 1899 and Jane 1901. Samuel was an Upholster on the 1891 and 1901 censuses and he was also an upholsterer on his son Samuel's marriage to Mary Gower. It is the 1881 census (if it is the correct one still not sure because of the Bedall). Sarah Biddle aged 46. She has 3 sons. William age 18, Samuel age 15 and Arthur age 7. As Sarah's parents are on the 1881 census (Frank and Susannah Knight), I have found her christening at St Clements 26th March 1837.