Hello Roy, Unless I'm looking at the wrong Henry BARBER the 1841 & 1851 don't give the information you quote:-( 1841 Census HO107/1203-12/8; p. 8 Husband Mans End, Shipston on Stour, WOR Henry BARBER, 50, M, J-Hatter, N Ann BARBER, 40, F, [nil], Y And - er - that's it...... All that can be deduced from this is that Henry was between 50 and 54, born "out of Worcestershire", and a [probably Journeyman] Hatter; while Ann was between 5 and 10 years his junior, born "in Worcestershire". Ancestry had him initially indexed as BARBEE, but "Ian541" amended this to BARBER, and added his birthplace of Ilminster, SOM on 7 Mar this year. In 1851 what would look to be the same man is shown: 1851 Census HO107/2076/527/49 Back Road, Shipston on Stour, WOR Henry BARBER, Head, M, 60, M, Hatter, SOM, Ilminster Elizabeth BARBER, Dau, M, 32, F, Dressmaker, WOR, Shipston Richard ADAMS, GSon, -, 9, M, Scholar, WOR, Shipston William ADAMS, GSon, -, 3, M, Scholar, WOR, Shipston Granted that there was a Charles ADAMS in the 1841: 1841 Census HO107/1203-12/14; p. 21 Husband Mans End, Shipston on Stour, WOR Charles ADAMS, 25, M, Mason, N Elizabeth [BLANK], 20, F, [nil], Y Elizabeth's 'surname' is anomalous - in all other households where surnames are the same these are indicated by "-do-" - so it just may have been a little camouflage that she'd spent Census night "under his roof"... There again, the marriage of an Elizabeth BARBER was recorded in Shipston District in 1839 DecQ, 11 533, and the [apparently incomplete] list of grooms under that reference includes a Charles ADAMS, so the anomaly may just be down to a slip by the enumerator. OTOH, his entry agrees with your later report of his birthplace as 'Honnington', for Honington - in WAR - was on the immediately-opposite bank of the Stour from Shipston. And it looks as if Henry had messed-up his Householder's Return in 1851... None of which, of course, answers your basic question! However, there is a more-than-reasonable possibility - based on Ann's reportedly having been born 'in County', and Elizabeth's stated birthplace - that the marriage would've taken place in Worcestershire. In that case, it should be in the WOR Marriages Index, and if it helps I will look there when next at Worcester History Centre [probably on Tuesday or Wednesday]. Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "R Davies" <davies_r11@sky.com> To: <ENG-WORCESTER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 11:31 PM Subject: [WOR] Henry BARBER b1791 > Hello, > I am new to this list and I am hoping someone will be able > to help me or, at least,point me in the right direction. > I am looking for the marriage of Henry Barber b 1791 at > Ilminster,Somerset. In the 1841 census Henry was at Shipston on Stour > with wife Ann and daughter Elizabeth. Elizabeth was 20yrs of age and b > Shipston.Also there was Charles Adams,son in law,also b Shipston > (although in the 1871 census he was b at Honnington). > I have no idea of Henry's wife, Ann's maiden name. > Henry was a hatter....he was at Shipston in the 1851 > Census but back at Ilminster during the 1861 census. > Thank you, in anticipation > Roy > Cwmbran > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message