On 6 Feb 2011 at 13:35, Roy Stockdill wrote: > On 6 Feb 2011 at 8:14, Katherine Andrews wrote: > > > > > Roger, thank you for the info. But what does "Vaults" refer to? > > I've never heard this in relation to a hotel. Kay > > > It was very common in Victorian and earlier times but usually more > associated with pubs than hotels. > > Google on "pubs+vaults" and you will find many examples. It was often > associated with wine vaults. > The following definition is found in a glossary near the end of "Researching Brewer and Publican Ancestors" by Simon Fowler (pub. by the Family History Partnership 2009)..... VAULTS "A name given to one of the rooms often found in northern pubs. This was the place where women would sit while their menfolk were in the public bar." So it was the place where women were banished to while their men drank themselves silly and talked football! In the days when my parents kept a pub in Yorkshire they had a room behind the bar called the "Snug" that served the same purpose. So "vaults" may not necessarily mean the literal sense of cellars. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hi, I suspect its probably a cellar of some kind sought . They could be used for wine, coal, or any other material which would be okay stored below street level (so possibly not for Worcester hops) You could have a look at 19th century Berrow's Worcester Journal (online from British Library to see if there is any further clarity - as typically vaults might be described in sale advertisement for the Hotel assuming it was Victorian or earlier and had passed through different owners) . Sometimes Vaults were let or sold one their own and examples probably survive under many high streets today. So in one of my newspapers (Bolton 1824) sandwiched between an ad for the Bridge Inn Manchester, and another for Elastic Steel Trusses I found for example " SPIRIT VAULTS. J. HARTLEY begs leave to inform his Friends and the Public, that he has opened Commodious VAULTS at his House, the Horse and Jockey Inn, in BRADSHAWGATE, for the Sale of FOREIGN and BRITISH SPIRITS, where they may be supplied with a Genuine Article, upon the following moderate prices :- P Gal." Best Regards Richard -------------------------------------------------- From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 2:06 PM To: <eng-worcester@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [WOR] ENG-WORCESTER Digest, Vol 6, Issue 17 > On 6 Feb 2011 at 13:35, Roy Stockdill wrote: > >> On 6 Feb 2011 at 8:14, Katherine Andrews wrote: >> >> > >> > Roger, thank you for the info. But what does "Vaults" refer to? >> > I've never heard this in relation to a hotel. Kay > >> >> It was very common in Victorian and earlier times but usually more >> associated with pubs than hotels. >> >> Google on "pubs+vaults" and you will find many examples. It was often >> associated with wine vaults. > > > The following definition is found in a glossary near the end of > "Researching Brewer > and Publican Ancestors" by Simon Fowler (pub. by the Family History > Partnership > 2009)..... > > VAULTS "A name given to one of the rooms often found in northern pubs. > This was > the place where women would sit while their menfolk were in the public > bar." > > So it was the place where women were banished to while their men drank > themselves > silly and talked football! In the days when my parents kept a pub in > Yorkshire they had > a room behind the bar called the "Snug" that served the same purpose. > > So "vaults" may not necessarily mean the literal sense of cellars. > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: > www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >