Hi Listers, Am hoping some kind person can do a look up for me please I have a Lewis Sockett who married an Elizabeth Gill 10 may 1857 at St Thomas Dudley Worc. and i would like to know who were the witnesses and who were the fathers of these 2 Many thanks Olwyn in a dry Kaipara NZ

>>Hi Listers, Am hoping some kind person can do a look up for me please I have a Lewis Sockett who married an Elizabeth Gill 10 may 1857 at St Thomas Dudley Worc. and i would like to know who were the witnesses and who were the fathers of these 2 Many thanks Olwyn in a dry Kaipara NZ<< ------------------------------- FreeBMD website shows the following: Marriages Jun 1857   (>99%)Gill Elizabeth  Dudley 6c80  Mills William   Dudley 6c80  Sockett Lewis   Dudley 6c80  Stanton Anne   Dudley 6c80 Doreen --- On Mon, 3/22/10, Olwyn Sherwin <osherwin@xtra.co.nz> wrote: From: Olwyn Sherwin <osherwin@xtra.co.nz> Subject: [WOR] a look up if possible please To: ENG-WORCESTER@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, March 22, 2010, 5:08 PM Hi Listers, Am hoping some kind person can do a look up for me please I have a Lewis Sockett who married an Elizabeth Gill 10 may 1857 at St Thomas Dudley Worc. and i would like to know who were the witnesses and who were the fathers of these 2 Many thanks Olwyn in a dry Kaipara NZ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi In my continuing search for my great grandfather's birth (I have his baptism in Leigh Sinton) I have yet another wrong certificate. Does this John belong to anyone? If so I will forward it. John Smith 19/06/1852 St Martins. Son of Richard and Ann (nee Checketts). David

Hello Angela, >From the dates it's extremely unlikely that there'll be any details of parents - *unless* any of them are by Licence, and one, at least' of the parties were under age. There was no requirement to give - and no spaces on the form to put - such details... I'll try to see if WOR's 'real' RO has the films when I'm there tomorrow. [It's WOR's History Centre that has most of the PR films.] Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan" <spellweaver@tinyworld.co.uk> To: <ENG-WORCESTER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 6:50 PM Subject: [WOR] Leigh with Bransford Marriages > Does anyone have access to the Parish Registers for LEIGH WITH BRANSFORD > and could see if there are any additional details of the following > marriages (parents, witnesses etc) Any help gratefully received. > 22/4/1794 Elizabeth MOREFIELD to William DAVIS > 24/7/1796 Sarah MOREFIELD to Thomas LELAND > Details above from IGI. > I am trying to find a link between this Morefield family, and the family > living in Sandhurst/Norton in Gloucestershire. > Also any additional details of a marriage in CLAINES: > 9/8/1774 George MOREFIELD and Sarah BROOKS. > Thanks in advance, > Angela > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone have access to the Parish Registers for LEIGH WITH BRANSFORD and could see if there are any additional details of the following marriages (parents, witnesses etc) Any help gratefully received. 22/4/1794 Elizabeth MOREFIELD to William DAVIS 24/7/1796 Sarah MOREFIELD to Thomas LELAND Details above from IGI. I am trying to find a link between this Morefield family, and the family living in Sandhurst/Norton in Gloucestershire. Also any additional details of a marriage in CLAINES: 9/8/1774 George MOREFIELD and Sarah BROOKS. Thanks in advance, Angela

Margaret, The names look strangely familiar. Have you posted them on other lists? If not, try Googling the names in quotation marks or searching the archives of surname lists. I don't put a lot of hope in finding current day descendants of specific families. I believe that really narrows down your chance of success. Far better to post the facts you know and ask list members for suggestions. Then everybody can potentially help. I'd list their estimated birth dates, date and location of births of children, and immigration details. If the had a couple of children, my guess is they may appear in 1861 census. Have you looked there? Alternatively have you looked for immigration records in Tasmania. I haven't looked specifically for Tasmania, but I know the relative State Archives of NSW, VIC and QLD have comprehensive listings of immigrants, especially Assisted Immigrants. You might also look at certificates for subsequent BDM events of those children born in UK. There marriage or death certificate should show origins. But if they arrived after 1861, I'd start by checking 1861 census. You can get it free at some FAHS centres or do it from home using a pay per view option at Find My Past. Peter in Sydney

Hi, Have just joined your list, can anyone help me in finding my family Henry Bott married Catherine Gadd in 1855 in Kings Norton Worcestershire , they had a couple of children then came out to Van Diemans Land (now Tasmania Australia) i do not know any of their info in England , any help would be appreciated Margaret, Launceston Tasmania

Hi Margaret There was a Percy BOTT, photographer who took a photo of the St. Nicolas Church Choir & Severs in 1944. The Photo is in a book of old photographs of Kings Norton. Mike Margaret Walker wrote: > Hi, Have just joined your list, can anyone help me in finding my family Henry Bott married Catherine Gadd in 1855 in Kings Norton Worcestershire , they had a couple of children then came out to Van Diemans Land (now Tasmania Australia) i do not know any of their info in England , any help would be appreciated Margaret, Launceston Tasmania > > ------------------------------- > -- Mike Yegwart Branch Chairman BromsgroveBMSGH The Family History Site for North Worcestershire http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/ ******************************** HANDS research site: http://yourhands.awardspace.com/

On 16 Mar 2010 at 16:43, Margaret Walker wrote: > Hi, Have just joined your list, can anyone help me in finding my > family Henry Bott married Catherine Gadd in 1855 in Kings Norton > Worcestershire , they had a couple of children then came out to Van > Diemans Land (now Tasmania Australia) i do not know any of their info > in England , any help would be appreciated Margaret, Launceston > Tasmania > Do you have the marriage certificate? If not, you can find the marriage with FreeBMD. It was, as you say, in 1855 in the June quarter at Kings Norton, vol 6c page 518 and you can order a copy from the GRO website. If you don't have the certificate and you don't know how to get one, come back and ask me again! This should give you the names of both fathers (but not the mothers). What you do then is try and find them in the censuses of 1841 and 1851 at either Ancestry or Findmypast. This should give you more details of their families. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hi How about Henry Bott (1831 Wythall WOR) son of George Bott & Susannah (Bott) born 1831 in Wythall WOR christened 27 Nov 1831 in Wythall (George & Susannah of Wythall farmer OPR) lived at Wythall WOR (1831)(source chr) lived at near Barn Hill (1841)(source 1841) census 1841 in near Barn Hill (9 y living with William Bott HO107.1197.021.007.024) George Bott (1768 not WOR-bef. 1851) born 1768 in not WOR married bef. 1818 to Susannah (Bott)(1795 1796 Stratford upon Avon WAR Bishopton WAR-1877) not in IGI WOR died bef. 1851 a farmer at Whitlock's End (1818-1829)(source dau son dau dau son chr) a farmer (1831-1837)(source dau son chr) lived at Whitlock's End (1818-1829)(source dau son dau dau son chr) lived at Wythall WOR (1831-1837)(source dau son chr) children:- 1818 Susannah 1820 Charles 1822 Harriet 1825 Elizabeth 1829 Joseph 1831 Henry 1837 Benjamin census 1841 in near Barn Hill (73 n farmer HO107.1197.021.007.024) see Wythall Index http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wythallindex/index.htm Mike in Droitwich Margaret Walker wrote: > Hi, Have just joined your list, can anyone help me in finding my family Henry Bott married Catherine Gadd in 1855 in Kings Norton Worcestershire , they had a couple of children then came out to Van Diemans Land (now Tasmania Australia) i do not know any of their info in England , any help would be appreciated Margaret, Launceston Tasmania > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Margaret, Sent some census results off list! There is a possibility that if the census names fit! then you MAY have the wrong marriage cert? I am also not sure about the trade description, of the father! John Eaton Socon ----- Original Message ----- From: Carinya To: ENG-WORCESTER@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 6:39 AM Subject: [WOR] Sanders Hello Listers I'm trying to find more on my SANDERS ancesters. G/grandfather David on the 1881 census was born at Sparkbrook, Wor. Wife Susan, son Alfred J. Dau Lizzie & Florence. On his marriage cert. 1858 his name is David SANDERS-HARDEMAN.His father also David Sanders-Hardeman a malt mill maker. There are many David Sanders & many David Hardeman. Nothing in the hyphened name & I can't seem to connect with the separate ones. After Susan died in 1882 David & 2 dau came to Australia. Alfred aged 21 stayed in England & I don't know what happened to him. Would any of you good people have any connections to these people please? Kind Regards Margaret Perth Westarn Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Carinya, Sparkbrook looks like it might be in Warwickshire according to IGI batches site. Perhaps you've been looking in the wrong place or it's right on the border of two counties. I think you need to look at earlier census records, 1841, 1851, 1861 and 1871. Like me, you'll have to pay for these unless you can find a local FHS centre of Library that has Find My Past or Ancestry for free. However, Find My Past has a pay per view option where you could look them all up for about six UK pounds (A$12). You should try and find marriage and births of children on FreeBMD. David's birth should be there as well as it looks like it was after 1837. It looks like there was also another son William c1859. But I would need to pay to see the full data. Peter in Sydney

I previously wrote: > Get your certificate orders in quickly the price is going up on April > 6th, £7 to £9.25! > See: > http://www.ips.gov.uk/cps/rde/xchg/ips_live/hs.xsl/1569.htm But in checking the GRO certificate ordering website today (http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/) I found this additional announcement: Changes to Fees and Services from 6 April 2010 Customers are asked to please note that there will be a change to the GRO fee structure which will take effect from 6 April 2010. Further details can be found on the IPS website at www.ips.gov.uk. Please note in addition that GRO have reviewed the range of services which we currently offer. We have been advised that there is no clear remit in statute for charging for a service to check additional index references, or to retain partial fees. In order to ensure full legal compliance, and in view of the fact that we cannot afford to offer this service free of charge, we are regretfully withdrawing our reference checking service from 6 April. This will include the withdrawal of the "checking points". So pay more and get a reduced service.... Polly

Hello Listers I'm trying to find more on my SANDERS ancesters. G/grandfather David on the 1881 census was born at Sparkbrook, Wor. Wife Susan, son Alfred J. Dau Lizzie & Florence. On his marriage cert. 1858 his name is David SANDERS-HARDEMAN.His father also David Sanders-Hardeman a malt mill maker. There are many David Sanders & many David Hardeman. Nothing in the hyphened name & I can't seem to connect with the separate ones. After Susan died in 1882 David & 2 dau came to Australia. Alfred aged 21 stayed in England & I don't know what happened to him. Would any of you good people have any connections to these people please? Kind Regards Margaret Perth Westarn Australia

Carinva This link may help for Sparkbrook information: http://billdargue.jimdo.com/placenames-gazetteer-a-to-y/places-s/sparkbrook/ Gill --- On Sat, 13/3/10, Peter Booth <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> wrote: From: Peter Booth <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> Subject: Re: [WOR] Sanders To: "Carinya" <carinya@iinet.net.au>, ENG-WORCESTER@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, 13 March, 2010, 8:29 Carinya,     Sparkbrook looks like it might be in Warwickshire according to IGI batches site. Perhaps you've been looking in the wrong place or it's right on the border of two counties.     I think you need to look at earlier census records, 1841, 1851, 1861 and 1871. Like me, you'll have to pay for these unless you can find a local FHS centre of Library that has Find My Past or Ancestry for free. However, Find My Past has a pay per view option where you could look them all up for about six UK pounds (A$12).     You should try and find marriage and births of children on FreeBMD. David's birth should be there as well as it looks like it was after 1837. It looks like there was also another son William c1859. But I would need to pay to see the full data.     Peter in Sydney ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thomas can be found on Piece 2116 ED6 Folio 71 Page 7 living at Bell Heath: Parents George 45 b. Bellbroughton & Ann 43 b. Bromsgrove with children Sophia 18, Phoebe 15, Mary 12, Thomas 9 and Dinah 6 all b. Bellbroughton. Occupations are Nailor for the 4 eldest and Scholar for the 3 youngest. Mike Jakeman Birmingham, England ----- Original Message ----- > Would anyone have the 1861 census covering area around Bellbroughton. > Worcestershire. > I am looking for the family of Thomas GOSSAGE. > His birth was registered at Bromsgrove March Quarter. 1852. > The 1881 census shows him as age 28 b. Bellbroughton. > > > Thanks > Pam

Pam, In 1861 there is a 1 month old Thomas, with siblings Joseph (13), Esther (11), Ellen (8), Elizabeth (4) and Charlotte (3); parents are William (38) and Elizabeth (33), and they are living at Sidemoor, Bromsgrove, all born Bromsgrove. William, Elizabeth and Joseph are all nail makers. Yours? Ages are not a good match but I don't see anyone else. Nigel Brown -----Original Message-----From: eng-worcester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-worcester-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pbeadman@aol.com Sent: 10 March 2010 7:23 PM To: ENG-WORCESTER@rootsweb.com Subject: [WOR] 1861 Census. Thomas GOSSAGE. Hi listers. Would anyone have the 1861 census covering area around Bellbroughton. Worcestershire. I am looking for the family of Thomas GOSSAGE. His birth was registered at Bromsgrove March Quarter. 1852. The 1881 census shows him as age 28 b. Bellbroughton.

Hi listers. Would anyone have the 1861 census covering area around Bellbroughton. Worcestershire. I am looking for the family of Thomas GOSSAGE. His birth was registered at Bromsgrove March Quarter. 1852. The 1881 census shows him as age 28 b. Bellbroughton. Thanks Pam

Hi Nuala, The "secret" is that when you log in to the home page, click on the "Search" tab - and when that comes up look at the extreme right-hand side at the top, and click on the [very inconspicuous] < old search > - and *bingo* everything's back to Normality. Grateful thanks to Bob Douglas who solved it for me - and hopefully for the rest of us as well... Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nuala Cockburn" <nualacockburn@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [WOR] Census Residence > Hi Gus, > > Like you I shudder whenever a firm "improves" their search boxes etc. > In fact I hadn't noticed that ancestry had done this until I tried to > look > it up to help John. "If it ain't broke don't fix it" is the phrase which > comes to mind. > > > Nuala > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gus Tysoe" <gustysoe@tiscali.co.uk> > To: "John Richardson" <jjminfiek@ntlworld.com>; > <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 4:16 PM > Subject: Re: [WOR] Census Residence > > >> Hi John >> >> I *think* you'll find it's the 1841 listing of the Parish of Halford, >> WAR - >> in Shipston on Stour District & Kington Hundred. >> >> BUT... >> >> A lot depends on the date the reference was written, as the 1841 >> referencing >> has been altered "comparatively" recently. Although the Piece Numbers >> remain >> the same, at the time I was working my way through the 1841 Census in the >> late 1990s, each piece was *not* Folioed as one unit. It was broken into >> sections - some of which were, and others weren't, given folio numbers. >> The >> result was that it was possible to have several quite different folios >> given >> the same one :-( >> >> This was converted "comparatively" recently into sequentially-numbered >> 'sections', and all were numbered-through separately from 1. >> >> >> All of this was easily determined until about a month ago, when Ancestry >> "improved" its search-boxes by removing piece and folio numbers and >> substituting "places" - of which around 90% have no relevance whatsoever >> to >> anything appearing in any English Census..... >> >> >> HTH >> >> Gus >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Gus I still have the boxes for the piece /folio numbers etc Have you accidentally selected the new search? Select the old type search Bob