Thank you, Mike and Gus. Too bad they didn't list the parishioners. Didn't they know that 150 years later, we'd want the names!! Kay -------------------------------------------------- From: <eng-worcester-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 3:00 AM To: <eng-worcester@rootsweb.com> Subject: ENG-WORCESTER Digest, Vol 5, Issue 61 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: ENG-WORCESTER Digest, Vol 5, Issue 60 (Katherine Andrews) > 2. Re: ENG-WORCESTER Digest, Vol 5, Issue 60 (Mike YEGWART) > 3. Re: ENG-WORCESTER Digest, Vol 5, Issue 60 (Gus Tysoe) > 4. Re: ENG-WORCESTER Digest, Vol 5, Issue 60 (Mike in Droitwich) > 5. Fw: Army bases.. (Mary Paterson) > > >

Hi all It appears to still be available via the their website http://tinyurl.com/38rkwyl Mike in Droitwich Gus Tysoe wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Worcestershire's returns were - as you state - published by the WorcHistSoc > in 2000, but I don't know if it's still in print or if the Soc still has any > stocks. I suspect not, as I bought my copy from WOR RO around 5 years ago. >

Hi Mike, Worcestershire's returns were - as you state - published by the WorcHistSoc in 2000, but I don't know if it's still in print or if the Soc still has any stocks. I suspect not, as I bought my copy from WOR RO around 5 years ago. It's an excellent work in that it includes *all* the Parishes that formed WOR in 1851 [the "Ancient County" as adjusted by the County Boundary changes of 1844] whereas the films of the Returns held at Worc RO [or History Centre] merely include those in the then Registration County. Crockfords Clerical Directory was first published in 1858 - for earlier clerics probably the best sources are the Alumni lists of Oxford or Cambridge. Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike YEGWART" <mike.yegwart@btinternet.com> To: <eng-worcester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [WOR] ENG-WORCESTER Digest, Vol 5, Issue 60 > Hi Kay > > Below is an extract from our Bromsgrove Briefing that goes out to our > members. >> >> The 1851 Religious census of Worcestershire and Birmingham was the >> first (and last) attempt by Government to count the worshippers in >> England and Wales on a single Sunday. >> John's talk will explore why and how it was done, what it tells us >> about religion and society of the time and why it was never repeated. >> Emphasis will be on the Worcestershire results with some references to >> Birmingham. >> John edited the Worcestershire Returns for this census and they were >> published by the Worcestershire Historical Society in 2000. > Basically the census is about Church attendance, C of E, RC, and > dissenting Protestants, when the church was erected or consecrated, and > space available for worship. It won't give you a list of worshippers, > so is of little genealogical use. Nor will it give you individuals > stated religion. I suppose it tells you attitude to regular worship, > density of churches/chapels/halls etc, if you can workout it out with a > map. For those with an academic mind you might also use the general > 1851 census. However, you do need to bear in mind some people did > travel a considerable distance to worship. > > No idea whether it is on-line or not, or even in book form. > > If you are trying to trace an individual minister, who was C of E then > you need Crockford's Clerical Directory. Published annually for years. > > There was also a Methodist Who's Who, but which branches I don't know. > > Also available for the Methodist researcher is a book with the very very > long tittle: > > "United Methodist Ministers and their Circuits" being an arrangement in > alphabetical order of the Station of Ministers of the Methodist New > Connexion, Bible Christians, Arminian Methodists, Protestant Methodists, > Wesleyan Methodist Association, Wesleyan Reformers, United Methodist > Free Churches and the United Methodist Church 1797-1932 > > compiled by Rev. Oliver Beckerlegge, M.A., Ph. D. London, > > ISBN 10: *0716200767 / 0-7162-0076-7 * > ISBN 13: *9780716200765* > Publisher: *Epworth P.* > Publication Date: *1968*. > > It contains circuits and official positions held, which is very useful > as they moved around a lot! > > That's the best I can offer. > > Mike Yegwart > > Branch Chairman > Bromsgrove BMSGH > > > > > On 08/05/2010 12:44, Katherine Andrews wrote: >> I've never heard of this before. Do tell us more, please. And can this >> info be accessed on line or elsewhere? Those of us outside the UK won't >> be >> able to attend the program. >> >> Kay >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From:<eng-worcester-request@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 3:00 AM >> To:<eng-worcester@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: ENG-WORCESTER Digest, Vol 5, Issue 60 >> >> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Bromsgrove BMSGH May meeting - The 1851 Religious Census- >>> open to all (Mike YEGWART) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 11:24:24 +0100 >>> From: Mike YEGWART<mike.yegwart@btinternet.com> >>> Subject: [WOR] Bromsgrove BMSGH May meeting - The 1851 Religious >>> Census- open to all >>> To: Worcester<ENG-WORCESTER@rootsweb.com> >>> Message-ID:<4BE3EA58.8090208@btinternet.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed >>> >>> The Bromsgrove Branch of the Birmingham and Midland Society for >>> Genealogy and Heraldry >>> >>> Our next meeting will be held on Tuesday 11th May at 7.45 p.m. >>> >>> ?The 1851 Religious Census of Worcestershire and Birmingham? >>> by John Aitken >>> >>> former lecturer at the School of Continuing Studies, University of >>> Birmingham >>> >>> The 1851 Religious census of Worcestershire and Birmingham was the first >>> (and last) attempt by Government to count the worshippers in England and >>> Wales on a single Sunday. John?s talk will explore why and how it was >>> done, what it tells us about religion and society of the time and why it >>> was never repeated. Emphasis will be on the Worcestershire results with >>> some references to Birmingham. John edited the Worcestershire Returns >>> for this census and they were published by the Worcestershire Historical >>> Society in 2000. >>> >>> ******************************* >>> This event will take place at Bromsgrove Methodist Centre, 19, Stratford >>> Road, Bromsgrove, B60 1AS. >>> ************************* >>> >>> -- >>> Mike Yegwart >>> >>> Branch Chairman >>> Bromsgrove BMSGH >>> >>> The Family History Site for North Worcestershire >>> >>> http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/ >>> >>> The Birmingham and Midland Society for Genealogy and Heraldry >>> http://www.bmsgh.org/ >>> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Kay Below is an extract from our Bromsgrove Briefing that goes out to our members. > > The 1851 Religious census of Worcestershire and Birmingham was the > first (and last) attempt by Government to count the worshippers in > England and Wales on a single Sunday. > John's talk will explore why and how it was done, what it tells us > about religion and society of the time and why it was never repeated. > Emphasis will be on the Worcestershire results with some references to > Birmingham. > John edited the Worcestershire Returns for this census and they were > published by the Worcestershire Historical Society in 2000. Basically the census is about Church attendance, C of E, RC, and dissenting Protestants, when the church was erected or consecrated, and space available for worship. It won't give you a list of worshippers, so is of little genealogical use. Nor will it give you individuals stated religion. I suppose it tells you attitude to regular worship, density of churches/chapels/halls etc, if you can workout it out with a map. For those with an academic mind you might also use the general 1851 census. However, you do need to bear in mind some people did travel a considerable distance to worship. No idea whether it is on-line or not, or even in book form. If you are trying to trace an individual minister, who was C of E then you need Crockford's Clerical Directory. Published annually for years. There was also a Methodist Who's Who, but which branches I don't know. Also available for the Methodist researcher is a book with the very very long tittle: "United Methodist Ministers and their Circuits" being an arrangement in alphabetical order of the Station of Ministers of the Methodist New Connexion, Bible Christians, Arminian Methodists, Protestant Methodists, Wesleyan Methodist Association, Wesleyan Reformers, United Methodist Free Churches and the United Methodist Church 1797-1932 compiled by Rev. Oliver Beckerlegge, M.A., Ph. D. London, ISBN 10: *0716200767 / 0-7162-0076-7 * ISBN 13: *9780716200765* Publisher: *Epworth P.* Publication Date: *1968*. It contains circuits and official positions held, which is very useful as they moved around a lot! That's the best I can offer. Mike Yegwart Branch Chairman Bromsgrove BMSGH On 08/05/2010 12:44, Katherine Andrews wrote: > I've never heard of this before. Do tell us more, please. And can this > info be accessed on line or elsewhere? Those of us outside the UK won't be > able to attend the program. > > Kay > > -------------------------------------------------- > From:<eng-worcester-request@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 3:00 AM > To:<eng-worcester@rootsweb.com> > Subject: ENG-WORCESTER Digest, Vol 5, Issue 60 > > >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Bromsgrove BMSGH May meeting - The 1851 Religious Census- >> open to all (Mike YEGWART) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 11:24:24 +0100 >> From: Mike YEGWART<mike.yegwart@btinternet.com> >> Subject: [WOR] Bromsgrove BMSGH May meeting - The 1851 Religious >> Census- open to all >> To: Worcester<ENG-WORCESTER@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID:<4BE3EA58.8090208@btinternet.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed >> >> The Bromsgrove Branch of the Birmingham and Midland Society for >> Genealogy and Heraldry >> >> Our next meeting will be held on Tuesday 11th May at 7.45 p.m. >> >> ?The 1851 Religious Census of Worcestershire and Birmingham? >> by John Aitken >> >> former lecturer at the School of Continuing Studies, University of >> Birmingham >> >> The 1851 Religious census of Worcestershire and Birmingham was the first >> (and last) attempt by Government to count the worshippers in England and >> Wales on a single Sunday. John?s talk will explore why and how it was >> done, what it tells us about religion and society of the time and why it >> was never repeated. Emphasis will be on the Worcestershire results with >> some references to Birmingham. John edited the Worcestershire Returns >> for this census and they were published by the Worcestershire Historical >> Society in 2000. >> >> ******************************* >> This event will take place at Bromsgrove Methodist Centre, 19, Stratford >> Road, Bromsgrove, B60 1AS. >> ************************* >> >> -- >> Mike Yegwart >> >> Branch Chairman >> Bromsgrove BMSGH >> >> The Family History Site for North Worcestershire >> >> http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/ >> >> The Birmingham and Midland Society for Genealogy and Heraldry >> http://www.bmsgh.org/ >>

I've never heard of this before. Do tell us more, please. And can this info be accessed on line or elsewhere? Those of us outside the UK won't be able to attend the program. Kay -------------------------------------------------- From: <eng-worcester-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 3:00 AM To: <eng-worcester@rootsweb.com> Subject: ENG-WORCESTER Digest, Vol 5, Issue 60 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Bromsgrove BMSGH May meeting - The 1851 Religious Census- > open to all (Mike YEGWART) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 11:24:24 +0100 > From: Mike YEGWART <mike.yegwart@btinternet.com> > Subject: [WOR] Bromsgrove BMSGH May meeting - The 1851 Religious > Census- open to all > To: Worcester <ENG-WORCESTER@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <4BE3EA58.8090208@btinternet.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > The Bromsgrove Branch of the Birmingham and Midland Society for > Genealogy and Heraldry > > Our next meeting will be held on Tuesday 11th May at 7.45 p.m. > > ?The 1851 Religious Census of Worcestershire and Birmingham? > by John Aitken > > former lecturer at the School of Continuing Studies, University of > Birmingham > > The 1851 Religious census of Worcestershire and Birmingham was the first > (and last) attempt by Government to count the worshippers in England and > Wales on a single Sunday. John?s talk will explore why and how it was > done, what it tells us about religion and society of the time and why it > was never repeated. Emphasis will be on the Worcestershire results with > some references to Birmingham. John edited the Worcestershire Returns > for this census and they were published by the Worcestershire Historical > Society in 2000. > > ******************************* > This event will take place at Bromsgrove Methodist Centre, 19, Stratford > Road, Bromsgrove, B60 1AS. > ************************* > > -- > Mike Yegwart > > Branch Chairman > Bromsgrove BMSGH > > The Family History Site for North Worcestershire > > http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/ > > The Birmingham and Midland Society for Genealogy and Heraldry > http://www.bmsgh.org/ > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ENG-WORCESTER list administrator, send an email to > ENG-WORCESTER-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ENG-WORCESTER mailing list, send an email to > ENG-WORCESTER@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ENG-WORCESTER Digest, Vol 5, Issue 60 > ******************************************** >

The Bromsgrove Branch of the Birmingham and Midland Society for Genealogy and Heraldry Our next meeting will be held on Tuesday 11th May at 7.45 p.m. “The 1851 Religious Census of Worcestershire and Birmingham” by John Aitken former lecturer at the School of Continuing Studies, University of Birmingham The 1851 Religious census of Worcestershire and Birmingham was the first (and last) attempt by Government to count the worshippers in England and Wales on a single Sunday. John’s talk will explore why and how it was done, what it tells us about religion and society of the time and why it was never repeated. Emphasis will be on the Worcestershire results with some references to Birmingham. John edited the Worcestershire Returns for this census and they were published by the Worcestershire Historical Society in 2000. ******************************* This event will take place at Bromsgrove Methodist Centre, 19, Stratford Road, Bromsgrove, B60 1AS. ************************* -- Mike Yegwart Branch Chairman Bromsgrove BMSGH The Family History Site for North Worcestershire http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/ The Birmingham and Midland Society for Genealogy and Heraldry http://www.bmsgh.org/

Just to add to my last e.mail.   I have Patricia's address which might help you. 430 Besserer St, Ottawa, Ontario, K1N 6C1, CANADA. Eveline ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: A CLARKE <evelineclarke183@btinternet.com> To: Dennis Flavell <dennis@fflavell.freeserve.co.uk> Cc: ENG-WORCESTER@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 1 May, 2010 14:25:32 Subject: Re: [WOR] British Home Child Hi Dennis Hope this helps. My father's 3 sisters were British Home Children in 1908.  They travelled on the SS Carthaginian from Liverpool to Halifax, Nova Scotia.    This was given to me after a request on Theshipslist. The three girls left Worcester for Liverpool where they boarded the next day. My contact with Middlemore in Canada was a Patricia Roberts-Pichette.  e.mail address  mabexsec@sympatico.ca but that was back in 2004 so this address might not be current.  She was very helpful and sent me photostats of all the records they held from when the sisters arrived until the age of 18 when they stopped being in the care of John Middlemore.   Regards   Eveline   ________________________________ From: Dennis Flavell <dennis@fflavell.freeserve.co.uk> To: Chesterfield <ENG-DERBYSHIRE-CHESTERFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: Sedgley <ENG-STS-SEDGLEY-L@rootsweb.com>; Eng- Worcester LIST <ENG-worcester@rootsweb.com>; BRITISHHOMECHILDREN@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 30 April, 2010 20:35:41 Subject: [WOR] British Home Child Seeking any information on Benjamin Job Flavell, born 1880 Walsall, and placed in an unknown orphanage / workhouse when his mother died. He later re- joined his newly wed father in Clay Cross by the year 1891. (1881 Census shows the family living with ONIONS relatives in Nottingham). Meanwhile sister May FLAVELL b.1881 Walsall was said to have been 'adopted' and taken to Canada. She was probably a British Home Child, and appropriately in this present "Year Of The British Home Child" I am seeking any information on her through the means of Adoption Agencies, Orphanages, Workhouses, Passenger Lists to North America, Census Returns (US + Canada), Marriage, Roots Lists, etc. I do belong to the British Home Child Roots List. (Benj. Job and May did have a cousin William FLAVELL a British Home Child). With best wishes Dennis FLAVELL ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Dennis Hope this helps. My father's 3 sisters were British Home Children in 1908.  They travelled on the SS Carthaginian from Liverpool to Halifax, Nova Scotia.    This was given to me after a request on Theshipslist. The three girls left Worcester for Liverpool where they boarded the next day. My contact with Middlemore in Canada was a Patricia Roberts-Pichette.  e.mail address  mabexsec@sympatico.ca but that was back in 2004 so this address might not be current.  She was very helpful and sent me photostats of all the records they held from when the sisters arrived until the age of 18 when they stopped being in the care of John Middlemore.   Regards   Eveline   ________________________________ From: Dennis Flavell <dennis@fflavell.freeserve.co.uk> To: Chesterfield <ENG-DERBYSHIRE-CHESTERFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: Sedgley <ENG-STS-SEDGLEY-L@rootsweb.com>; Eng- Worcester LIST <ENG-worcester@rootsweb.com>; BRITISHHOMECHILDREN@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 30 April, 2010 20:35:41 Subject: [WOR] British Home Child Seeking any information on Benjamin Job Flavell, born 1880 Walsall, and placed in an unknown orphanage / workhouse when his mother died. He later re- joined his newly wed father in Clay Cross by the year 1891. (1881 Census shows the family living with ONIONS relatives in Nottingham). Meanwhile sister May FLAVELL b.1881 Walsall was said to have been 'adopted' and taken to Canada. She was probably a British Home Child, and appropriately in this present "Year Of The British Home Child" I am seeking any information on her through the means of Adoption Agencies, Orphanages, Workhouses, Passenger Lists to North America, Census Returns (US + Canada), Marriage, Roots Lists, etc. I do belong to the British Home Child Roots List. (Benj. Job and May did have a cousin William FLAVELL a British Home Child). With best wishes Dennis FLAVELL ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Seeking any information on Benjamin Job Flavell, born 1880 Walsall, and placed in an unknown orphanage / workhouse when his mother died. He later re- joined his newly wed father in Clay Cross by the year 1891. (1881 Census shows the family living with ONIONS relatives in Nottingham). Meanwhile sister May FLAVELL b.1881 Walsall was said to have been 'adopted' and taken to Canada. She was probably a British Home Child, and appropriately in this present "Year Of The British Home Child" I am seeking any information on her through the means of Adoption Agencies, Orphanages, Workhouses, Passenger Lists to North America, Census Returns (US + Canada), Marriage, Roots Lists, etc. I do belong to the British Home Child Roots List. (Benj. Job and May did have a cousin William FLAVELL a British Home Child). With best wishes Dennis FLAVELL

Hi Mike, Not merely the subtleties of the English language, but also of English Law as it was, as both words were used, but they referred to different penalties.... The run-of-the-mill offender was simply sentenced to be 'hanged by the neck until death', but really serious malefactors were further sentenced to be 'cut down and hung in chains' [actually thin bands of flat wrought iron, rather like the containers for glass carboys of acid when I was a lad] as a Public Spectacle until all the bits had rotted and fallen off. They didn't call it Merrie Englande for nothing..... Saying 'hung' implies a greater degree of villainy than was actually the case! Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike YEGWART" <mike.yegwart@btinternet.com> To: "Gus Tysoe" <gustysoe@tiscali.co.uk> Cc: "Lin Watterson" <linwatterson@waitrose.com>; <ENG-WORCESTER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [WOR] EADES around Bromsgrove > Hi Gus, > > Ah, the subtleties of the English language. I stand corrected - if that's > allowed. LOL > > Yes it was Aime MEUNIER, wrongly sexed as a woman in some articles. > > Cheers > > Mike > > On 30/04/2010 09:08, Gus Tysoe wrote: >> Hi Mike, >> >> I take it you're referring Aime MEUNIER who was extradited [presumably >> from France] for "the murder of an old woman", and executed at Worcester >> on 19 July 1893... [per < http://www.ivanlea.net/sub_pages/executions.htm >> >] >> >> But he wasn't hung.... Gibbetting had been abolished many years >> beforehand - he was hanged, and as far as I'm aware buried [without prior >> dissection beyond the usual post mortem] within the old County Gaol >> premises. >> >> Gus >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike YEGWART" >> <mike.yegwart@btinternet.com> >> To: "Lin Watterson" <linwatterson@waitrose.com> >> Cc: <ENG-WORCESTER@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 8:03 AM >> Subject: Re: [WOR] EADES around Bromsgrove >> >> >>> Hi Lyn, >>> >>> Thanks for confirming the parents of Charlotte. Do a Google search for >>> "Charlotte PEARCEY", keeping the quote marks and add Bromsgrove. You >>> should get six hits. The Truecrimelibrary site give a good summary. An >>> on-line newspaper gives a possible family contact and the RootsChat link >>> gives some discussions I had on that board in 2005. >>> >>> The perpetrator was caught, described as a mad Frenchman, and hung at >>> Worcester. >>> >>> That's about all I have. >>> >>> Mike >>> >>>> -- >>>> Mike Yegwart >>>> >>>> Branch Chairman >>>> Bromsgrove BMSGH >>>> >>>> The Family History Site for North Worcestershire >>>> >>>> http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/ >>>> >>>> The Birmingham and Midland Society for Genealogy and Heraldry >>>> http://www.bmsgh.org/ >>>> >>>> ******************************** >>>> >>>> HANDS research site: http://yourhands.awardspace.com/ >>> >>> >>> On 28/04/2010 18:24, Lin Watterson wrote: >>>> In response to Mike Yegwart >>>> >>>> Hi Folks, >>>> >>>> Touching up against my tree are some EADES girls. I was wondering if >>>> anyone has worked out if they are related to each other. >>>> >>>> * Phoebe EADES born in Tardebigge in 1740 who married John >>>> MANNING >>>> in 1763 >>>> * Harriet EADES born in 1829 in Bromsgrove, daughter of Joseph >>>> EADES >>>> and Ann WILLIAMS. She was murdered by her daughter Sarah Ann >>>> BROOMFIELD in 1901 behind The Crabmill pub. >>>> * Charlotte EADES, born 1822 in Bromsgrove, daughter of James and >>>> Mary. Charlotte married Joseph PEARCY in 1841 and was >>>> murdered by >>>> a "deranged Frenchman" at Lickey End in the early 1890s. >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Mike Yegwart >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks you for this Mike. Charlotte Eades was my GG Grandmother Sarah >>>> Eades or Heeds' sister. >>>> Sarah was born in 1819 and was still alive in 1901. She married >>>> Joseph Turner at St Martins' in the Bullring on Nov 12th 1843. >>>> Somehow I had missed this as I had not accessed the 1841 recently for >>>> this branch. Charlotte and Joseph were witnesses at the wedding. >>>> >>>> Their parents were James Eades b Belbroughton abt 1785 son of Thomas >>>> Eades and Rachel Green >>>> and Mary Harris b 1794 White Ladies Aton , James lived at Apesdale >>>> Bromsgrove in 1841 and 1851 census and was a nailor. >>>> I can't find a link on my tree to the other Eades but would >>>> appreciate any more information you can give me on Charlotte's death. >>>> >>>> Lin Watterson (Cartwright, Blunn, Turner, Eades, Peatman, Yarnold, >>>> Bromsgrove and Clent) >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Gus, Ah, the subtleties of the English language. I stand corrected - if that's allowed. LOL Yes it was Aime MEUNIER, wrongly sexed as a woman in some articles. Cheers Mike On 30/04/2010 09:08, Gus Tysoe wrote: > Hi Mike, > > I take it you're referring Aime MEUNIER who was extradited [presumably > from France] for "the murder of an old woman", and executed at > Worcester on 19 July 1893... [per < > http://www.ivanlea.net/sub_pages/executions.htm >] > > But he wasn't hung.... Gibbetting had been abolished many years > beforehand - he was hanged, and as far as I'm aware buried [without > prior dissection beyond the usual post mortem] within the old County > Gaol premises. > > Gus > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike YEGWART" > <mike.yegwart@btinternet.com> > To: "Lin Watterson" <linwatterson@waitrose.com> > Cc: <ENG-WORCESTER@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 8:03 AM > Subject: Re: [WOR] EADES around Bromsgrove > > >> Hi Lyn, >> >> Thanks for confirming the parents of Charlotte. Do a Google search for >> "Charlotte PEARCEY", keeping the quote marks and add Bromsgrove. You >> should get six hits. The Truecrimelibrary site give a good summary. An >> on-line newspaper gives a possible family contact and the RootsChat link >> gives some discussions I had on that board in 2005. >> >> The perpetrator was caught, described as a mad Frenchman, and hung at >> Worcester. >> >> That's about all I have. >> >> Mike >> >>> -- >>> Mike Yegwart >>> >>> Branch Chairman >>> Bromsgrove BMSGH >>> >>> The Family History Site for North Worcestershire >>> >>> http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/ >>> >>> The Birmingham and Midland Society for Genealogy and Heraldry >>> http://www.bmsgh.org/ >>> >>> ******************************** >>> >>> HANDS research site: http://yourhands.awardspace.com/ >> >> >> On 28/04/2010 18:24, Lin Watterson wrote: >>> In response to Mike Yegwart >>> >>> Hi Folks, >>> >>> Touching up against my tree are some EADES girls. I was wondering if >>> anyone has worked out if they are related to each other. >>> >>> * Phoebe EADES born in Tardebigge in 1740 who married John >>> MANNING >>> in 1763 >>> * Harriet EADES born in 1829 in Bromsgrove, daughter of Joseph >>> EADES >>> and Ann WILLIAMS. She was murdered by her daughter Sarah Ann >>> BROOMFIELD in 1901 behind The Crabmill pub. >>> * Charlotte EADES, born 1822 in Bromsgrove, daughter of James and >>> Mary. Charlotte married Joseph PEARCY in 1841 and was >>> murdered by >>> a "deranged Frenchman" at Lickey End in the early 1890s. >>> >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Mike Yegwart >>> >>> >>> Thanks you for this Mike. Charlotte Eades was my GG Grandmother Sarah >>> Eades or Heeds' sister. >>> Sarah was born in 1819 and was still alive in 1901. She married >>> Joseph Turner at St Martins' in the Bullring on Nov 12th 1843. >>> Somehow I had missed this as I had not accessed the 1841 recently for >>> this branch. Charlotte and Joseph were witnesses at the wedding. >>> >>> Their parents were James Eades b Belbroughton abt 1785 son of Thomas >>> Eades and Rachel Green >>> and Mary Harris b 1794 White Ladies Aton , James lived at Apesdale >>> Bromsgrove in 1841 and 1851 census and was a nailor. >>> I can't find a link on my tree to the other Eades but would >>> appreciate any more information you can give me on Charlotte's death. >>> >>> Lin Watterson (Cartwright, Blunn, Turner, Eades, Peatman, Yarnold, >>> Bromsgrove and Clent) >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mike, I take it you're referring Aime MEUNIER who was extradited [presumably from France] for "the murder of an old woman", and executed at Worcester on 19 July 1893... [per < http://www.ivanlea.net/sub_pages/executions.htm >] But he wasn't hung.... Gibbetting had been abolished many years beforehand - he was hanged, and as far as I'm aware buried [without prior dissection beyond the usual post mortem] within the old County Gaol premises. Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike YEGWART" <mike.yegwart@btinternet.com> To: "Lin Watterson" <linwatterson@waitrose.com> Cc: <ENG-WORCESTER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [WOR] EADES around Bromsgrove > Hi Lyn, > > Thanks for confirming the parents of Charlotte. Do a Google search for > "Charlotte PEARCEY", keeping the quote marks and add Bromsgrove. You > should get six hits. The Truecrimelibrary site give a good summary. An > on-line newspaper gives a possible family contact and the RootsChat link > gives some discussions I had on that board in 2005. > > The perpetrator was caught, described as a mad Frenchman, and hung at > Worcester. > > That's about all I have. > > Mike > >> -- >> Mike Yegwart >> >> Branch Chairman >> Bromsgrove BMSGH >> >> The Family History Site for North Worcestershire >> >> http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/ >> >> The Birmingham and Midland Society for Genealogy and Heraldry >> http://www.bmsgh.org/ >> >> ******************************** >> >> HANDS research site: http://yourhands.awardspace.com/ > > > On 28/04/2010 18:24, Lin Watterson wrote: >> In response to Mike Yegwart >> >> Hi Folks, >> >> Touching up against my tree are some EADES girls. I was wondering if >> anyone has worked out if they are related to each other. >> >> * Phoebe EADES born in Tardebigge in 1740 who married John MANNING >> in 1763 >> * Harriet EADES born in 1829 in Bromsgrove, daughter of Joseph >> EADES >> and Ann WILLIAMS. She was murdered by her daughter Sarah Ann >> BROOMFIELD in 1901 behind The Crabmill pub. >> * Charlotte EADES, born 1822 in Bromsgrove, daughter of James and >> Mary. Charlotte married Joseph PEARCY in 1841 and was >> murdered by >> a "deranged Frenchman" at Lickey End in the early 1890s. >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Mike Yegwart >> >> >> Thanks you for this Mike. Charlotte Eades was my GG Grandmother Sarah >> Eades or Heeds' sister. >> Sarah was born in 1819 and was still alive in 1901. She married >> Joseph Turner at St Martins' in the Bullring on Nov 12th 1843. >> Somehow I had missed this as I had not accessed the 1841 recently for >> this branch. Charlotte and Joseph were witnesses at the wedding. >> >> Their parents were James Eades b Belbroughton abt 1785 son of Thomas >> Eades and Rachel Green >> and Mary Harris b 1794 White Ladies Aton , James lived at Apesdale >> Bromsgrove in 1841 and 1851 census and was a nailor. >> I can't find a link on my tree to the other Eades but would >> appreciate any more information you can give me on Charlotte's death. >> >> Lin Watterson (Cartwright, Blunn, Turner, Eades, Peatman, Yarnold, >> Bromsgrove and Clent) >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I, too, have a couple of Eades "girls", and wonder if there are any other Eades researchers out there who have them in there tree and can tell me more than the little information I have. First, Rebecca Eades (my four greats grandmother) married Thomas Tranter on 28 April 1771 in Clent. There is a baptism for a Rebecca Eades in Clent in 1745 (parents Joseph and Sarah) but I haven't been able to confirm whether this is the same Rebecca. Second, Winifred Eades, (my five greats grandmother on a different line) born about 1706, married William Hedges of Belbroughton by licence at St. Helen's, Worcester, on 14 February 1736. She may (or may not, of course) be the same Winifred Eades who married Constantine Musgrove (a soldier) at Upton Warren in 1730 and may herself have been born in Upton Warren, as were some of her children. I have no definite information about their parentage or any siblings and I've often wondered if they were connected in any way though I'm aware that Eades is a fairly common surname in the Bromsgrove/Belbroughton area. I'll keep my fingers crossed that someone has one of my grandmas in their tree. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike YEGWART" <mike.yegwart@btinternet.com> To: "Worcester" <ENG-WORCESTER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 2:09 PM Subject: [WOR] EADES around Bromsgrove > Hi Folks, > > Touching up against my tree are some EADES girls. I was wondering if > anyone has worked out if they are related to each other. > > * Phoebe EADES born in Tardebigge in 1740 who married John MANNING > in 1763 > * Harriet EADES born in 1829 in Bromsgrove, daughter of Joseph EADES > and Ann WILLIAMS. She was murdered by her daughter Sarah Ann > BROOMFIELD in 1901 behind The Crabmill pub. > * Charlotte EADES, born 1822 in Bromsgrove, daughter of James and > Mary. Charlotte married Joseph PEARCY in 1841 and was murdered by > a "deranged Frenchman" at Lickey End in the early 1890s. > > > Cheers > > Mike Yegwart > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Lyn, Thanks for confirming the parents of Charlotte. Do a Google search for "Charlotte PEARCEY", keeping the quote marks and add Bromsgrove. You should get six hits. The Truecrimelibrary site give a good summary. An on-line newspaper gives a possible family contact and the RootsChat link gives some discussions I had on that board in 2005. The perpetrator was caught, described as a mad Frenchman, and hung at Worcester. That's about all I have. Mike > -- > Mike Yegwart > > Branch Chairman > Bromsgrove BMSGH > > The Family History Site for North Worcestershire > > http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/ > > The Birmingham and Midland Society for Genealogy and Heraldry http://www.bmsgh.org/ > > ******************************** > > HANDS research site: http://yourhands.awardspace.com/ On 28/04/2010 18:24, Lin Watterson wrote: > In response to Mike Yegwart > > Hi Folks, > > Touching up against my tree are some EADES girls. I was wondering if > anyone has worked out if they are related to each other. > > * Phoebe EADES born in Tardebigge in 1740 who married John MANNING > in 1763 > * Harriet EADES born in 1829 in Bromsgrove, daughter of Joseph > EADES > and Ann WILLIAMS. She was murdered by her daughter Sarah Ann > BROOMFIELD in 1901 behind The Crabmill pub. > * Charlotte EADES, born 1822 in Bromsgrove, daughter of James and > Mary. Charlotte married Joseph PEARCY in 1841 and was > murdered by > a "deranged Frenchman" at Lickey End in the early 1890s. > > > Cheers > > Mike Yegwart > > > Thanks you for this Mike. Charlotte Eades was my GG Grandmother Sarah > Eades or Heeds' sister. > Sarah was born in 1819 and was still alive in 1901. She married > Joseph Turner at St Martins' in the Bullring on Nov 12th 1843. > Somehow I had missed this as I had not accessed the 1841 recently for > this branch. Charlotte and Joseph were witnesses at the wedding. > > Their parents were James Eades b Belbroughton abt 1785 son of Thomas > Eades and Rachel Green > and Mary Harris b 1794 White Ladies Aton , James lived at Apesdale > Bromsgrove in 1841 and 1851 census and was a nailor. > I can't find a link on my tree to the other Eades but would > appreciate any more information you can give me on Charlotte's death. > > Lin Watterson (Cartwright, Blunn, Turner, Eades, Peatman, Yarnold, > Bromsgrove and Clent) >

In response to Mike Yegwart Hi Folks, Touching up against my tree are some EADES girls. I was wondering if anyone has worked out if they are related to each other. * Phoebe EADES born in Tardebigge in 1740 who married John MANNING in 1763 * Harriet EADES born in 1829 in Bromsgrove, daughter of Joseph EADES and Ann WILLIAMS. She was murdered by her daughter Sarah Ann BROOMFIELD in 1901 behind The Crabmill pub. * Charlotte EADES, born 1822 in Bromsgrove, daughter of James and Mary. Charlotte married Joseph PEARCY in 1841 and was murdered by a "deranged Frenchman" at Lickey End in the early 1890s. Cheers Mike Yegwart Thanks you for this Mike. Charlotte Eades was my GG Grandmother Sarah Eades or Heeds' sister. Sarah was born in 1819 and was still alive in 1901. She married Joseph Turner at St Martins' in the Bullring on Nov 12th 1843. Somehow I had missed this as I had not accessed the 1841 recently for this branch. Charlotte and Joseph were witnesses at the wedding. Their parents were James Eades b Belbroughton abt 1785 son of Thomas Eades and Rachel Green and Mary Harris b 1794 White Ladies Aton , James lived at Apesdale Bromsgrove in 1841 and 1851 census and was a nailor. I can't find a link on my tree to the other Eades but would appreciate any more information you can give me on Charlotte's death. Lin Watterson (Cartwright, Blunn, Turner, Eades, Peatman, Yarnold, Bromsgrove and Clent)

Hi Folks, Touching up against my tree are some EADES girls. I was wondering if anyone has worked out if they are related to each other. * Phoebe EADES born in Tardebigge in 1740 who married John MANNING in 1763 * Harriet EADES born in 1829 in Bromsgrove, daughter of Joseph EADES and Ann WILLIAMS. She was murdered by her daughter Sarah Ann BROOMFIELD in 1901 behind The Crabmill pub. * Charlotte EADES, born 1822 in Bromsgrove, daughter of James and Mary. Charlotte married Joseph PEARCY in 1841 and was murdered by a "deranged Frenchman" at Lickey End in the early 1890s. Cheers Mike Yegwart

On 26 Apr, A Drake <drake@xcelco.on.ca> wrote: > I'm looking for descendants of the following BRINTON family: > Richard Brinton who married Susannah Petford June 12, 1797 in Alcester, > Warwickshire.and had > Richard Corbett Brinton born Cannon Street Meeting House-Baptist, > Birmingham, Warwick, England April 7, 1812. Excuse me for butting in on this but that's probably a baptismal record - it would be extraordinary indeed if he'd have been born in a chapel! -- Chris Pampling researching: BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, HOLDING, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY, MAHER all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day PAMPLING Cambridgeshire - Sheffield, 1800 to present VARNDELL Wokingham - Birmingham, 1800 to present

I'm looking for descendants of the following BRINTON family: Richard Brinton who married Susannah Petford June 12, 1797 in Alcester, Warwickshire.and had Richard Corbett Brinton born Cannon Street Meeting House-Baptist, Birmingham, Warwick, England April 7, 1812. He died in circa 1871. He married Mary Harriet Dewson and had Richard James William Brinton in about Dec 1846 who married Alice Greene in circa 1872 in Edgbaston. They had possibly Arthur b circa 1875, Charles b circa 1873 and Richard b circa 1872. Richard James William Brinton died in about 1881 and Alice remarried Henry Fryer. Richard Brinton b Feb 1872 who emigrated to Canada in 1903 but was in Canada in the North West Territories for a period in the 1890s. . He was married to Mary H. and had Alice b 1894, Beatrice b 1895, Florence b 1897, all in the NWT and then Evelyn b 1902 in Edgbaston and David b 1899 in Wales. Any help greatly appreciated. Would love to know about any descendants of Arthur or Charles Brinton. Angela in Canada Message was posted to the Warwick List, unfortunately there have been no replies.

Nigel, May I suggest you use www.familysearch.org . It has a baptism 26 OCT 1825 Kidderminster, Worcester, England for John Chalk son of Thomas & Mary. This is a parish record extract so should be reasonably accurate Nuala ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel Chalk" <chalkie_at_5days@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-WORCESTER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:37 AM Subject: [WOR] CHALK(E) - Kidderminster > Thanks Peter but the Wiltshire family is a completely different one that I > am already aware of, so still looking for the Kidderminster link. > > Would like info on marriage of James CHALK(E) to Harriot abt 1821 > Children - Charles 1822, William 1825, Harriot 1826, Sarah 1828 > > Also looking for parents of John CHALK(E) 1826 Kidderminster > > Thankyou in anticipation > > Nigel Chalk > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nigel, That was as easy as looking on familysearch. Looks like you've been too restrictive with your searches, looking only in Worcester. The marriage took place in Wiltshire. I nearly missed the obvious myself. But we're not the only ones. There's half a dozen various submissions on Rootsweb Family Trees and a couple on Ancestry that don't have Harriet's maiden name. Peter in Sydney. PS!! For future posts, try and include names, dates and locations in subject line. That's all many people read. And it helps later for anybody searching or browsing the archives.