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    1. Re: [WOR] MESSAGE POSTS
    2. Ann
    3. You just change the address in the TO frame **** Ann **** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 1:11 PM Subject: [WOR] MESSAGE POSTS > Is there any way that this list can be changed to conform with every other list, that force replies to go through the list, rather than to the sender only? > > Peter BOOTH - Family Historian, SYDNEY > --------------------------------------- > (Enquire about Growing your Family Tree) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/01/2010 08:37:01
    1. Re: [WOR] MESSAGE POSTS
    2. Mike YEGWART
    3. Hi Peter, Different lists have had views taken and gone their own way, I believe. Actually, you can choose yourself how your reply works. I use Thunderbird 3.0.5 and I have icons to select: Reply, Reply to List, Reply All. If you don't want to to use Thunderbird, use the Reply All setting that should be on most email client programs. Training the Newbies would be a problem possibly. Depending on what other replies you get might I suggest you write to the list Admin, and ask if something can be added to the Successfully Subscribed message, which I think can be altered. Cheers Mike On 01/07/2010 13:11, Peter Booth wrote: > Is there any way that this list can be changed to conform with every other list, that force replies to go through the list, rather than to the sender only? > > Peter BOOTH - Family Historian, SYDNEY > --------------------------------------- > -- Mike Yegwart Branch Chairman Bromsgrove BMSGH The Family History Site for North Worcestershire http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/ The Birmingham and Midland Society for Genealogy and Heraldry http://www.bmsgh.org/ ******************************** HANDS research site: http://yourhands.awardspace.com/

    07/01/2010 07:35:51
    1. Re: [WOR] MESSAGE POSTS
    2. Mike in Droitwich
    3. No EVERY list Devon & Mariner-L are the same as Worcester and I have not checked every list I am on Mike in Droitwich Peter Booth wrote: > Is there any way that this list can be changed to conform with every other list, that force replies to go through the list, rather than to the sender only? > > Peter BOOTH - Family Historian, SYDNEY > --------------------------------------- > (Enquire about Growing your Family Tree) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    07/01/2010 07:20:38
    1. [WOR] ADA HUGHES
    2. Syd Hockey
    3. Hello, If there is anybody with the 1911 census could they kindly keep a look out for ADA HUGHES b. 1876 at GLOUCESTERSHIRE we believe that she was in the WORCESTER area at that time. Thank you for any help. Regards, Judy

    07/01/2010 06:18:35
    1. [WOR] Fw: MOGGRIDGE family Worcester
    2. Mary Paterson
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Paterson" <themaryp@ozemail.com.au> To: "Dennis Corbett Tel" <denniscorbett@denniscorbett.e.telefonica.net> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [WOR] MOGGRIDGE family Worcester > > Hi Dennis I have searched early marriages and think the thing they > mostly say is "Of this parish"Dont think they give the address of > anyone,,someone may correct me..I would take a guess that they were living > in Worcester as all the children were christened there in the same church > > Maria Mogridge female christened 19/1/1773 Saint Swithens Worcester > Worcester > Marie " " Death 8/4/1780 > Maria " " Christened 28/6/1782 " " > " > Harriot " " " 15/5/1777 > " " " > John Sandford Mogridge Male Christened 27/12/1780 " " " > Ann " " 13/5/1779 > " " " > > Parents are John and Mary.Mogridge > > If you live near a Mormon FHC you can order the film of the parish records > and search for yourself ,,Film no is on the bottom of the IGI record in > this case its 0933455..if you can find any of them in the census you > might get a address as to where they live.. > > Hope this is of some help..Someone may be able to find out more for you so > keep looking in.. > > Mary > Sydney > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Corbett Tel" <denniscorbett@denniscorbett.e.telefonica.net> > To: "Worcester" <eng-worcester@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 8:56 AM > Subject: [WOR] MOGGRIDGE family Worcester > > >>I sent the following message to the list in March, but unfortunately >>nobody >> appeared able to help. As I live overseas now I have little chance of >> getting to Worcester. If there is a chance that somebody could help me >> with >> the enquiry below I would be most grateful. If any researchers are >> reading >> this, by all means give me an estimate and I will pay for your services. >> >> I have found a christening of John Sandford Moggridge at St. Swithins, >> Worcester on 27th December 1780. There is also a marriage of John >> Moggridge >> and Mary Southan at St. Swithins on 15th September 1771. If some kind >> person >> has a bit of time available at the FHC, I wonder if they could do a >> look-up >> for me. I would be particularly interested in knowing where the pair of >> them >> were resident at the time of their marriage. >> >> Thanks so much if anyone can help >> >> Regards >> >> Dennis >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >

    06/25/2010 04:06:21
    1. [WOR] MOGGRIDGE family Worcester
    2. Dennis Corbett Tel
    3. I sent the following message to the list in March, but unfortunately nobody appeared able to help. As I live overseas now I have little chance of getting to Worcester. If there is a chance that somebody could help me with the enquiry below I would be most grateful. If any researchers are reading this, by all means give me an estimate and I will pay for your services. I have found a christening of John Sandford Moggridge at St. Swithins, Worcester on 27th December 1780. There is also a marriage of John Moggridge and Mary Southan at St. Swithins on 15th September 1771. If some kind person has a bit of time available at the FHC, I wonder if they could do a look-up for me. I would be particularly interested in knowing where the pair of them were resident at the time of their marriage. Thanks so much if anyone can help Regards Dennis

    06/24/2010 04:56:50
    1. [WOR] PARROTT and HARDMAN
    2. Brenda Parrott
    3. PARROTT James c1777 and HARDMAN Sarah c1777 married Nov 1796 at St Johns Bedwardine, can anyone offer me any info for eiher of them please they were my GGG Grandparents and i cant seem to find any information at all some of their children were born in Worcester or Gloucester, i found A Sarah Parrott on 1841 census and she was alone, thats about it ,but i would love to know more about them. James was a Silk Dyer when they married. Regards Brenda

    06/06/2010 12:30:06
    1. [WOR] “Redditch History – A Sideways Look” Bromsgrove BMSGH
    2. Mike YEGWART
    3. The Bromsgrove Branch of The Birmingham and Midland Society for Genealogy and Heraldry welcomes all for our June meeting. Our next meeting will be held on Tuesday 8th June at 7.45 p.m. “Redditch History – A Sideways Look” by Anne Bradford, - Local Author and Historian Few towns have such an eventful history as Redditch even though the general public may not be aware of it. This talk is not for those who regard the town with affection. In parts - light-hearted; In total - informative and entertaining. ******************************* This event will take place at Bromsgrove Methodist Centre, 19, Stratford Road, Bromsgrove, B60 1AS. ************************* For details of our July meeting please refer to our web-site nearer to the 13th July -- Mike Yegwart Branch Chairman Bromsgrove BMSGH The Family History Site for North Worcestershire http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/ The Birmingham and Midland Society for Genealogy and Heraldry http://www.bmsgh.org/ ******************************** HANDS research site: http://yourhands.awardspace.com/

    06/06/2010 12:00:06
    1. [WOR] SPRAGUE & RIDGLEY also HUDSON
    2. Peter J Richardson
    3. Hello all, Is there anybody on-list studying SPRAGUE or RIDGLEY or HUDSON in Worcestershire please? I am interested in Allen Spragg of the parish of Kidderminster who married Catharine Ridgley of the parish of Shrawley in 1787. I have found an Allen Sprague (son of Thomas and Hannah) on the Ancestry transcription service christened at Areley Kings on 2nd November 1765. Catherine RIDGLEY was probably baptised at Richards Castle on the Shropshire/Herefordshire border on 26th December 1766, the daughter of Richard RIDGLEY and Catherine HUDSON. Catherine is described as being from Hartlebury (and I see that there is a Hartlebury in the Shrawley/Areley Kings area). I think Catherine was born around 1730. I wondered if anybody had come across any of these families, and also whether there is any link between the Worcestershire Spragues and the Sprague family of the Axminster area of Devon/Dorset. Thanks Peter

    06/02/2010 02:11:10
    1. Re: [WOR] John Watkins Holden, magician & conjuror etc
    2. Roy Stockdill
    3. On 25 May 2010 at 9:32, Roger Jones wrote: > > There appears to be quite a full account of J W Holden's life here > .... http://bit.ly/d1vzFa Roger On 24 May 2010 19:51, Roy Stockdill > <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> wrote: > As an incorrigible seeker of unusual and interesting characters > who appear in the censuses (I confess this is not entirely > unrelated to research for my bi-monthly column called Roy's > Ramblings in Practical Family History magazine), I have become > rather interested in a character called JOHN WATKINS HOLDEN, who > appears in the 1911 census as a lodger at Bournemouth, aged 68, > born at Worcester. > > John clearly had an advanced sense of humour, since in 1911 he > describes himself as "Very much married" and he gives his > occupation as "Wizard of Ye United World, Public Entertainer". I > first came across this man in the census of 1881 at St Pancras, > where he appears as "The Queen's Magician and Wizard of the Wicked > World". His then wife Jennie is down as "Balard vocalist and good > cook" and they have a daughter Grace, aged 7, whose occupation is > "Auti Spiritualist known as uzita". > > Really got you hooked now, haven't I? > > In 1891 John is living alone at St Pancras, though still married, > as a lodger and described as a "conjuror". Not really quite in the > same league as "The Queen's Magician and Wizard of the Wicked > World", is it? I couldn't find his wife or Grace, the daughter. > > In 1901 John is in Clerkenwell, apparently has a different (and > much younger) wife called Bertha and appears to have started > another family. Whatever happened to Jennie or Jenny? John is now > described as a "Society entertainer", while Bertha comes from some > place in Northamptonshire called Rothwell. > > Obviously, this man was one hell of a character and led a very > colourful life! Does anyone recognise or claim him? > Many thanks, Roger. In fact, I came across that site with Google late last night, after I had posted my message to the list. There are other references, too, from mailing lists. He was obviously a fascinating character and led a life that appears to have a number of holes in it! Like, what happened to his first wife and family? So far I haven't been able to find them after 1881 and the writer of the article appears to have had the same problem. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

    05/25/2010 04:14:36
    1. Re: [WOR] John Watkins Holden, magician & conjuror etc
    2. Roger Jones
    3. There appears to be quite a full account of J W Holden's life here .... http://bit.ly/d1vzFa Roger On 24 May 2010 19:51, Roy Stockdill <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> wrote: > As an incorrigible seeker of unusual and interesting characters who appear > in the > censuses (I confess this is not entirely unrelated to research for my > bi-monthly column > called Roy's Ramblings in Practical Family History magazine), I have become > rather > interested in a character called JOHN WATKINS HOLDEN, who appears in the > 1911 > census as a lodger at Bournemouth, aged 68, born at Worcester. > > John clearly had an advanced sense of humour, since in 1911 he describes > himself > as "Very much married" and he gives his occupation as "Wizard of Ye United > World, > Public Entertainer". I first came across this man in the census of 1881 at > St Pancras, > where he appears as "The Queen's Magician and Wizard of the Wicked World". > His > then wife Jennie is down as "Balard vocalist and good cook" and they have a > daughter > Grace, aged 7, whose occupation is "Auti Spiritualist known as uzita". > > Really got you hooked now, haven't I? > > In 1891 John is living alone at St Pancras, though still married, as a > lodger and > described as a "conjuror". Not really quite in the same league as "The > Queen's > Magician and Wizard of the Wicked World", is it? I couldn't find his wife > or Grace, the > daughter. > > In 1901 John is in Clerkenwell, apparently has a different (and much > younger) wife > called Bertha and appears to have started another family. Whatever happened > to > Jennie or Jenny? John is now described as a "Society entertainer", while > Bertha > comes from some place in Northamptonshire called Rothwell. > > Obviously, this man was one hell of a character and led a very colourful > life! Does > anyone recognise or claim him? > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: > www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/25/2010 03:32:49
    1. Re: [WOR] John Watkins Holden, magician & conjuror etc
    2. Mike YEGWART
    3. Hi Roy, Not quite what you're after, however, have you tried the on-line archive of The Stage magazine? It's a subscription search Here's the URL https://archive.thestage.co.uk/ Cheers Mike -- Mike Yegwart Branch Chairman Bromsgrove BMSGH The Family History Site for North Worcestershire http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/ The Birmingham and Midland Society for Genealogy and Heraldry http://www.bmsgh.org/ On 24/05/2010 19:51, Roy Stockdill wrote: > As an incorrigible seeker of unusual and interesting characters who appear in the > censuses (I confess this is not entirely unrelated to research for my bi-monthly column > called Roy's Ramblings in Practical Family History magazine), I have become rather > interested in a character called JOHN WATKINS HOLDEN, who appears in the 1911 > census as a lodger at Bournemouth, aged 68, born at Worcester. > > John clearly had an advanced sense of humour, since in 1911 he describes himself > as "Very much married" and he gives his occupation as "Wizard of Ye United World, > Public Entertainer". I first came across this man in the census of 1881 at St Pancras, > where he appears as "The Queen's Magician and Wizard of the Wicked World". His > then wife Jennie is down as "Balard vocalist and good cook" and they have a daughter > Grace, aged 7, whose occupation is "Auti Spiritualist known as uzita". > > Really got you hooked now, haven't I? > > In 1891 John is living alone at St Pancras, though still married, as a lodger and > described as a "conjuror". Not really quite in the same league as "The Queen's > Magician and Wizard of the Wicked World", is it? I couldn't find his wife or Grace, the > daughter. > > In 1901 John is in Clerkenwell, apparently has a different (and much younger) wife > called Bertha and appears to have started another family. Whatever happened to > Jennie or Jenny? John is now described as a "Society entertainer", while Bertha > comes from some place in Northamptonshire called Rothwell. > > Obviously, this man was one hell of a character and led a very colourful life! Does > anyone recognise or claim him? > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Genealogical researcher, writer& lecturer > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy& Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > Scanned with AntiVir MailGuard v10.0.1.27 AVE 8.2.1.242 VDF 7.10.7.163

    05/24/2010 04:28:51
    1. [WOR] John Watkins Holden, magician & conjuror etc
    2. Roy Stockdill
    3. As an incorrigible seeker of unusual and interesting characters who appear in the censuses (I confess this is not entirely unrelated to research for my bi-monthly column called Roy's Ramblings in Practical Family History magazine), I have become rather interested in a character called JOHN WATKINS HOLDEN, who appears in the 1911 census as a lodger at Bournemouth, aged 68, born at Worcester. John clearly had an advanced sense of humour, since in 1911 he describes himself as "Very much married" and he gives his occupation as "Wizard of Ye United World, Public Entertainer". I first came across this man in the census of 1881 at St Pancras, where he appears as "The Queen's Magician and Wizard of the Wicked World". His then wife Jennie is down as "Balard vocalist and good cook" and they have a daughter Grace, aged 7, whose occupation is "Auti Spiritualist known as uzita". Really got you hooked now, haven't I? In 1891 John is living alone at St Pancras, though still married, as a lodger and described as a "conjuror". Not really quite in the same league as "The Queen's Magician and Wizard of the Wicked World", is it? I couldn't find his wife or Grace, the daughter. In 1901 John is in Clerkenwell, apparently has a different (and much younger) wife called Bertha and appears to have started another family. Whatever happened to Jennie or Jenny? John is now described as a "Society entertainer", while Bertha comes from some place in Northamptonshire called Rothwell. Obviously, this man was one hell of a character and led a very colourful life! Does anyone recognise or claim him? -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

    05/24/2010 01:51:32
    1. [WOR] WORCESTERSHIRE MONUMENTAL INSCRIPTIONS
    2. Kerry Murray
    3. Hi everyone, Was wondering if anyone can tell me if the Worcestershire monumental inscriptions cd includes St Michaels Cofton Hackett. Also, is there a map available of who is buried where at that church. Thanks in advance, Kerry Murray. Australia.

    05/21/2010 02:54:41
    1. Re: [WOR] WORCESTERSHIRE MONUMENTAL INSCRIPTIONS
    2. Mike in Droitwich
    3. Hi Ken Yes to both Mike in Droitwich Kerry Murray wrote: > Hi everyone, > > > > Was wondering if anyone can tell me if the Worcestershire monumental > inscriptions cd includes St Michaels Cofton Hackett. > > > > Also, is there a map available of who is buried where at that church. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Kerry Murray. > > Australia. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/21/2010 07:17:25
    1. Re: [WOR] Barbara Palin
    2. Peter Booth
    3. Roy, I presume you found the record on the IGI at www.familysearch.org You need to look closely at all the records for Barbara Palin in Worcester. There are seven in all - five birth entries and two marriages. You also need to look closely at the sources. Most are user submissions rather than extracted, and despite the different dates, my view is that they all relate to the same person. If you look firstly at the two marriages, the one in 1705 at Bayton is the official extracted record. I think the person who did the user submission got the year and location wrong. Then examine the five births. I believe they are all the same person, just different guesses. The 1680 data would be an estimate, by subtracting 25 from her marriage date. In amongst those five entries, one gives parents as William Palin and Elizabeth. I'd suggest that may be close to the mark. If you then go back to IGI and search using just the Palin surname and Worcester you get 52 Palin entries. Print them out and then sort them into dates and families. You may already have some of them, so concentrate on those before about 1720. If you do a parent search using William Palin and Elizabeth, you find Barbara had a brother Walter c1684 - 1718. Walter looks to have had a number of children. The family could go back to John Palen c1610 who had a son Gedian in 1634, but there are no other family records around that time. Peter in Sydney

    05/21/2010 07:13:19
    1. [WOR] Barbara Palin
    2. Roy Penny
    3. Hi Folks I have found that Barbara Palin married William Bishop at Mamble in 1708, but I am unable to find out where she was born. Could anyone out there point me in the right direction please so that I can conduct a search? Kindest Regards Roy Penny, Australia.

    05/21/2010 05:31:39
    1. Re: [WOR] ERNEST SMITH 1880 STOURBRIDGE
    2. Gus Tysoe
    3. Hello Rona, I only looked at the 1891 Census entry of the ones you quote, but it doesn't say he was born in the Stourbridge Registration District in 1880, although it does allow that conclusion to be drawn. The return merely states that he was 11 - which, if true, gives 1879 a 3-to-1 advantage over 1880 as his birth year - and that he was born *in* Stourbridge, Worcestershire. While granting that Stourbridge was in both Worcestershire and the Registration District, it doesn't mean that the entry is a true statement. Probably the big clue here is that Laura Gertrude [called 'just' Gertrude in 1891, which possibly was what she was known as, and may have married and/or died as] was baptised in Lower Gornal - which was her mother's birthplace. It was quite traditional for a first-born to be baptised in her/his mother's home Parish, which also might give a further idea of where to look for Ernest in 1881. Lower - and Upper - Gornal were only Ecclesiastical and never Civil Parishes, being for Registration, Census, and Electoral purposes parts of Sedgley [Civil] Parish - in Staffordshire and Dudley Registration District. The birth of an Ernest SMITH was registered in 1880 in the Sedgley Sub-District of Dudley Registration District [per UK BMD] - the Register being held at Dudley Registrar's Office under reference SEG/130/267. There were 2 hits for 'Ernest SMITH' registered in Dudley District in 1880, of which the likely one is Ernest SMITH - 1880 Sep Q - Dudley 6c 74 [The other is a Joseph Ernest in the Mar Q [6c 121], but he *should* appear in the Censuses as being a year older than 'yours' - and his birth was registered in Dudley Sub-District as 'Joseph E'.] Unfortunately Ernest wasn't recorded in 1881 with his Granny Hannah RAYBOULD in Temple Street, Lower Gornal - nor with his uncle & Aunt next door... :-( [But it seemed worthwhile trying!] Anyway, I hope the little I've found may have dislodged a brick or so... Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "rona benson" <rona_benson@yahoo.co.uk> To: <ENG-WORCESTER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:53 AM Subject: [WOR] ERNEST SMITH 1880 STOURBRIDGE Hi Listers. I am hoping someone can help with one of my brick walls. My Grandfather ERNEST SMITH son of Joseph Edward Smith (1855) and Hannah Raybould (1857) appears on the 1891, 1901, and 1911 censuses as being born in the Stourbridge Registration District in 1880. On the 1881 census the family was living at 44, Hagley Street, Stourbridge. Ernest does not appear. Their daughter, Laura Gertrude was born in 1878 in the Stourbridge Reg District but Christened in Lower Gornal on 19 June 1878. I have been unable to find Ernest's birth on BMD. Nor his death which I believe should be between 1936 and 1948 due to information on marriage and death certificates although I know that these can be misleading. Also I cannot find Laura Gertrude's death or her possible marriage. Again, I found Laura on the 1911, single and staying with her mother. Any help in trying to sort this out would be extremely gratefully received. Thanks in advance Rona. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/11/2010 07:56:55
    1. [WOR] ERNEST SMITH 1880 STOURBRIDGE
    2. rona benson
    3. Hi Listers. I am hoping someone can help with one of my brick walls. My Grandfather ERNEST SMITH son of Joseph Edward Smith (1855) and Hannah Raybould (1857) appears on the 1891, 1901, and 1911 censuses as being born in the Stourbridge Registration District in 1880. On the 1881 census the family was living at 44, Hagley Street, Stourbridge. Ernest does not appear. Their daughter, Laura Gertrude was born in 1878 in the Stourbridge Reg District but Christened in Lower Gornal on 19 June 1878. I have been unable to find Ernest's birth on BMD. Nor his death which I believe should be between 1936 and 1948 due to information on marriage and death certificates although I know that these can be misleading. Also I cannot find Laura Gertrude's death or her possible marriage. Again, I found Laura on the 1911, single and staying with her mother. Any help in trying to sort this out would be extremely gratefully received. Thanks in advance Rona. 

    05/10/2010 11:53:32
    1. [WOR] Fw: Army bases..
    2. Mary Paterson
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Paterson To: eng-worcester@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 12:14 PM Subject: Army bases.. Hi List.. Can anyone tell me if there were any army bases in or near Oldswinford or Lye area around 1826-1830 time.. Thanks muchly Mary OZ

    05/09/2010 10:37:46